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The Premier League’s so-called ‘Big Six’ could become part of a new-look Champions League.

By davieG, in Leicester City Forum

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Muzzy_Larsson

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On 12/02/2021 at 13:07, Fox92 said:

Can't see it happening. There's been variations of ideas put together over the last decade and nothing has ever happened.

It most definitely will, every reform that's happened in recent years is all around appeasing the elite clubs and however long it takes it will move towards something like this.

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Scotch

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2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Here’s a conundrum

 

we finish second in the league and win the Europa league this season

 

we are invited to become part of this ‘super league/expanded CL circus’ with no strings attached 

 

I know what we would all decide but what does the club do ????

I would imagine we would be all over it... Unfortunately, money IS a huge factor in football wether we like it or not. 

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Rather than the group stage, couldn’t they invite all teams from across the top European Leagues into a straight knockout competition, like the FA Cup. Even if you had to seed some of the smaller leagues to play each other first. 

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davieG

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1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Here’s a conundrum

 

we finish second in the league and win the Europa league this season

 

we are invited to become part of this ‘super league/expanded CL circus’ with no strings attached 

 

I know what we would all decide but what does the club do ????

The club would snap their hand off remember we are one of the clubs that voted to give those in the Euro comps more of the overseas TV money when we weren't in them.

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11 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

I don't think we would at all. We were very opposed to it in the last meeting according to reports.

 

2 minutes ago, davieG said:

The club would snap their hand off remember we are one of the clubs that voted to give those in the Euro comps more of the overseas TV money when we weren't in them.


I think that we would be stuck between a rock and a hard place !! 

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1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Very different to voting away for a break away league. Leicester were the most outspoken critic of the plan according to reports.

Absolutely. Obviously the club want to make as much money as possible and are ambitious. A complete restructure of the game is a different question. 

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7 hours ago, Sly said:

Rather than the group stage, couldn’t they invite all teams from across the top European Leagues into a straight knockout competition, like the FA Cup. Even if you had to seed some of the smaller leagues to play each other first. 

I like this.

 

Big clubs wont though, the group stage is designed to give them as many games as possible (TV revenue) and the highest chance of progression - groups rather than one off ties

Even if the number of games (and revenue) if you stayed in to the later rounds worked out the same, they'd never go for it.

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when_you're_smiling

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Latest mad ‘Super League/Champions League idea including a ban on clubs transferring players to each other and subscriptions for those only wanting to watch the last 15 minutes of a game.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/08/andrea-agnelli-champions-league-reforms-premier-league

Agreement on a new “ideal” Champions Leagueis imminent, according to the man who represents Europe’s biggest clubs, which may put pressure on the Premier League to reduce its fixture list in future if it is to benefit.

Andrea Agnelli, the chairman of the European Clubs Association, said on Monday he expects a reshaped Champions League to be agreed within weeks. The Juventus president wants an expanded competition to be just the start of wide-ranging reforms at the top of the game that could mean the overall number of domestic games in England is reduced and a ban on transfers between elite sides.

Uefa is expected to ratify plans for an expanded Champions League of 36 teams, with each club playing 10 group matches in a “Swiss system” that would see them ranked in a single league table. This would bring an end to recurring rumours of a breakaway Super League, something Agnelli says he has always been keen to avoid.

“I think we’re very close to my ideal Champions League, I think the Swiss system is beautiful,” he said. “I think it will provide great opportunities for those teams participating in that competition. It will provide the knockouts that are the essence of any competition. It’s very, very close to an ideal Champions League. We’re maybe just a couple of weeks away.

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How Uefa's 'Swiss system' might work

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“My attention for quite a long time has been to make sure we find a solution with Uefa. We had fights with Alex [Uefa’s president, Alexander Ceferin] in the autumn months because we wanted to find the balance between continental and domestic competition. It’s [about] having a balanced competitive landscape.”

Agnelli, whose organisation represents 246 clubs across Europe including nine in the Premier League, says he wants the domestic calendar to take up only two thirds of any season. The Premier League have pushed back against the new Champions League proposals due to their effects on the calendar but Agnelli believes it is the larger domestic competitions, such as the English top flight, that will eventually have to compromise.

“If we look back in time the Champions League had four more games than it has today,” Agnelli said. “I think the balance that we are trying to strike is one third international [European competition] and two thirds domestic. We can take a look at the overall calendar, we have countries like England with a maximum number of games at 53, If I’m not mistaken, Germany is 43 and so is Italy.

“We do think that currently for competitive balance purposes 20 teams in leagues are too many. There is an overall element that could actually be worked out altogether in the interests of everyone.”

With the new competition not set to start until 2024, Agnelli would like any restructuring to be made in tandem with wider reform. He wants an end to financial fair play in its current form, with clubs scrutinised on their overall balance sheet rather than annual profit and loss. He also said the ECA had discussed changing the transfer system so Champions League clubs could no longer buy from or sell to each other, instead trading only with lower-ranking clubs.

“No triple-figures transfers between Champions League participating clubs maybe would [mean] focusing instead on champion players in smaller countries allowing us only to buy players there,” Agnelli said. “These are elements we are discussing but certainly cost control will be one of the biggest challenges in terms of reforms going forward.”

Agnelli also stressed that football must think of ways to attract younger viewers in an increasingly crowded marketplace. “We could imagine a subscription for the last 15 minutes of a specific game,” he said. “The attention span of today’s kids and tomorrow’s spenders is completely different to the one I had when I was their age.

“If you take golf, if it’s interesting at all, it’s only the last six holes on the final day. You are not going to watch the whole thing on the TV unless you are a hardcore fan.”

 

 

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5 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Latest mad ‘Super League/Champions League idea including a ban on clubs transferring players to each other and subscriptions for those only wanting to watch the last 15 minutes of a game.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/08/andrea-agnelli-champions-league-reforms-premier-league

Agreement on a new “ideal” Champions Leagueis imminent, according to the man who represents Europe’s biggest clubs, which may put pressure on the Premier League to reduce its fixture list in future if it is to benefit.

Andrea Agnelli, the chairman of the European Clubs Association, said on Monday he expects a reshaped Champions League to be agreed within weeks. The Juventus president wants an expanded competition to be just the start of wide-ranging reforms at the top of the game that could mean the overall number of domestic games in England is reduced and a ban on transfers between elite sides.

Uefa is expected to ratify plans for an expanded Champions League of 36 teams, with each club playing 10 group matches in a “Swiss system” that would see them ranked in a single league table. This would bring an end to recurring rumours of a breakaway Super League, something Agnelli says he has always been keen to avoid.

“I think we’re very close to my ideal Champions League, I think the Swiss system is beautiful,” he said. “I think it will provide great opportunities for those teams participating in that competition. It will provide the knockouts that are the essence of any competition. It’s very, very close to an ideal Champions League. We’re maybe just a couple of weeks away.

Quick guide

How Uefa's 'Swiss system' might work

Show

“My attention for quite a long time has been to make sure we find a solution with Uefa. We had fights with Alex [Uefa’s president, Alexander Ceferin] in the autumn months because we wanted to find the balance between continental and domestic competition. It’s [about] having a balanced competitive landscape.”

Agnelli, whose organisation represents 246 clubs across Europe including nine in the Premier League, says he wants the domestic calendar to take up only two thirds of any season. The Premier League have pushed back against the new Champions League proposals due to their effects on the calendar but Agnelli believes it is the larger domestic competitions, such as the English top flight, that will eventually have to compromise.

“If we look back in time the Champions League had four more games than it has today,” Agnelli said. “I think the balance that we are trying to strike is one third international [European competition] and two thirds domestic. We can take a look at the overall calendar, we have countries like England with a maximum number of games at 53, If I’m not mistaken, Germany is 43 and so is Italy.

“We do think that currently for competitive balance purposes 20 teams in leagues are too many. There is an overall element that could actually be worked out altogether in the interests of everyone.”

With the new competition not set to start until 2024, Agnelli would like any restructuring to be made in tandem with wider reform. He wants an end to financial fair play in its current form, with clubs scrutinised on their overall balance sheet rather than annual profit and loss. He also said the ECA had discussed changing the transfer system so Champions League clubs could no longer buy from or sell to each other, instead trading only with lower-ranking clubs.

“No triple-figures transfers between Champions League participating clubs maybe would [mean] focusing instead on champion players in smaller countries allowing us only to buy players there,” Agnelli said. “These are elements we are discussing but certainly cost control will be one of the biggest challenges in terms of reforms going forward.”

Agnelli also stressed that football must think of ways to attract younger viewers in an increasingly crowded marketplace. “We could imagine a subscription for the last 15 minutes of a specific game,” he said. “The attention span of today’s kids and tomorrow’s spenders is completely different to the one I had when I was their age.

“If you take golf, if it’s interesting at all, it’s only the last six holes on the final day. You are not going to watch the whole thing on the TV unless you are a hardcore fan.”

 

 

Doesn’t really look great when a club previously found guilty of cheating are wanting to reform the “elite”...

 

Theres no reform in this at all, it is basically rolling back the clock to the 90’s and ensuring that the regular names are always at the top. 
 

It’s regression over progression and is just an example of the “big guns” getting scared of losing their place at the top.

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Finnegan

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3 minutes ago, Corky said:

Sounds absolutely hideous.

 

tHey PlAY tOO MuCh fOOtbALL- chuck in even more games.

 

Yeah except they want all the leagues to reduce in size. 

 

The bit that got me was the line on the BBC that said that England would likely get a 5th place but that it wouldn't be handed out on merit, it would be handed out "by coefficient" meaning it's basically a safety net for whichever of the so called BIG CLUBS that have a shit season. 

 

So this year they'd give it to Liverpool for example. 

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