Rodgers: warns players not to seek validation for performances on social media

[davieG]

The Leicester boss thinks players will have to acclimatise and learn to take criticism as well as praise; Rodgers does however think the authorities need to get a grip on racist abuse

By PA Media

Monday 8 February 2021 23:35, UK

Leicester manager Brendan Rodgers believes social media companies and the government need to do more to stop online abuse
  
Leicester manager Brendan Rodgers has condemned the racist and discriminatory abuse directed at footballers on social media and has advised players they should not be looking to the platform for validation of their performances.

Cases of abuse, particularly in terms of race, are on the rise and the Foxes boss said that should not be tolerated and urged the relevant authorities and companies to take the appropriate action.

However, he has warned his players they are likely to find further negativity on social media and that there will always be criticism of their personal performances, and told them they have to be prepared to deal with that aspect.

"There are probably a couple of sides to it," Rodgers said.

"You have the racist stuff and discrimination which is not acceptable at all and that is something the Government and people in charge of the social media outlets have to get a handle on.

"The other side is you are going to get criticism, so you are going to have to be able to take it. If not, don't go on it.

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"You have to take the rough with the smooth. If you are only on there to receive gratification for everything you've done really well and the minute you don't do something well and get criticised for it you crumble, then that's not saying a great deal.

"If it is negative you have to accept it. I would say casually to players that if they need it, great, but if you don't I don't see why you would bother and don't look for the gratification to see how well you've done just by switching on social media."

[davieG]

Ayoze Pérez had better stay off of Foxestalk then.

[Paninistickers]

I'd hazard  a guess that quite a few players read the forum. It's only human nature. 

 

I felt Madders' fascinating post match interviews hinted at it earlier this season, when he was getting pelters from some on here.  

 

I think v Sheff utd he felt the need to explain why his no.10 job meant having to take risks- which included an higher chance of being dispossessed or a pass not coming off. Basically addressing comments that had been raised on here.

[goose2010]

40 minutes ago, davieG said:

Ayoze Pérez had better stay off of Foxestalk then.

The amount of abuse some Leicester fans are giving him on Twitter is truly shocking and massively out of order. If anyone from here is one of them they seriously need to take a look in the mirror at themselves. 

 

Imagine having an average day at work and you put a tweet out to be hit with 100's of abusive messages! At the end of the day they are all human and imagine it hits them quite hard. 

Edited 9 February 2021 by goose2010

[Devonfox1884]

18 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

The amount of abuse some Leicester fans are giving him on Twitter is truly shocking and massively out of order. If anyone from here is one of them they seriously need to take a look in the mirror at themselves. 

 

Imagine having an average day at work and you put a tweet out to be hit with 100's of abusive messages! At the end of the day they are all human and imagine it hits them quite hard. 

This. Especially when Ayo is one of the only players to ever post after a defeat/poor result, which should be seen as admirable in a way.

 

Issue being, he’s always more likely to get abuse after a poor result, so you could argue he’s opening himself up to it to an extent - not that it should happen in any case.

 

He’s shown resilience to get himself back in the squad recently, and I’m sure he’s similar with the messages he receives, hence his apparent fearlessness to post when things haven’t gone so well. 

[jammie82uk]

18 minutes ago, Devonfox1884 said:

This. Especially when Ayo is one of the only players to ever post after a defeat/poor result, which should be seen as admirable in a way.

 

Issue being, he’s always more likely to get abuse after a poor result, so you could argue he’s opening himself up to it to an extent - not that it should happen in any case.

 

He’s shown resilience to get himself back in the squad recently, and I’m sure he’s similar with the messages he receives, hence his apparent fearlessness to post when things haven’t gone so well. 

He seems a genuinely nice guy who interacts daily with fans on social media, nobody deserves the hammering he gets on here and Twitter 

[lifted*fox]

people forget football is a job to these kids

 

there aren't many occassions where our team doesn't put a shift in and we're lucky to be watching top-end of the table football most weeks. 

 

grown adults throwing pelters at kids on twitter because they had a bad game, in a game of football, where the result is never a given and variables are vast - is just pathetic.

 

grown adults moaning because a few players smiled at each other or shook hands with their mates on the other team after a loss, etc. also pathetic. 

 

90 mins is over m8s, the world goes on, friendships resume, the job ends. 

 

get some perspective. if you're an actual grown person and you're letting football ruin your weekends and getting red in the face because Perez missed a few kicks of a leather sack of air... well, says more about you than anything else tbh.

[StanSP]

Do we know if any players actually read the forum? 

[Jobyfox]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Do we know if any players actually read the forum? 

God I hope not. 
 

It’s enough to give them a bipolar disorder 

[AKCJ]

It is genuinely sickening to see how much grief Leicester "fans" give our players when we've been top four for so long, have recently won the league, have played Champions League football, currently into the knockouts of the Europa and are two wins from Wembley in the Cup.

 

These bandwagoners don't know how good it is to be a City fan right now.

[filbertway]

I liked what Kasper said in the high performance podcast. He doesn't actively look for people's comments on social media, he has his trusted people that he will discuss his performance with and also knows himself how well he's performed.

 

Obviously the younger lads have been on social media since they could hold a phone so it's just the norm to them. I'll happily criticise or praise a performance on here and try to remain constructive (unless I'm in the match thread, then it's a shoot out haha). To actively message a player or their account and send them abuse isn't on though. It's a trash move and says a lot about that person. 

 

 

[foxile5]

I like what Rodgers has said here.

 

He's right - you shouldn't seek the validation of the public for performing but if you do you need to accept that not everyone will be supportive. It's a good message.

[demon_dog]

I know certain players used to read this forum, it has been mentioned many a time in the past. Even one of our managers wives used to read read it!

Some people will criticise a players performance no matter what. We all have players that we like / dislike.

More fool the player for taking note of what comments are made.

Saying that it's one thing to criticise the performance, quite another to be abusive in any way shape or form.

I cannot understand why some people feel that it's ok to be abusive, I'm sure that they would not like to be treated in that way so why do they bother?

[Hales]

I'm sure some do have a nosy on here! Constructive criticism and discussions are one thing but abusive comments are quite another. It's easy to say don't let it affect you or don't post but they are young lads and social media is massive today. We all use it in one form or another.  Concerning Perez he is one of the few that interact positively with fans on social media, for example if he is tagged to wish someone happy birthday he always does which makes it even more sad the rubbish he gets. He seems a lovely guy. Chilwell clearly suffered from it and now posts but has comments limited so only friends can comment. Maybe that's the way forward for some players? Abuse in any form is never ok.  From fans too it is really sad. They play for our team.  Discuss points but don't abuse them. Twitter is the worse!

Edited 9 February 2021 by Hales

[Stoopid]

Accountability. If people are allowed anonymity on their platforms, they'll continue to abuse the privilege. 

Don't see why this need continue. If people had to identify themselves, or their identity was public knowledge, they'd necessarily give more thought to what they said. 

[Guest SO1]

Says more about us than it does about them. Mirror.

[David Hankey]

2 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

I'd hazard  a guess that quite a few players read the forum. It's only human nature. 

 

I felt Madders' fascinating post match interviews hinted at it earlier this season, when he was getting pelters from some on here.  

 

I think v Sheff utd he felt the need to explain why his no.10 job meant having to take risks- which included an higher chance of being dispossessed or a pass not coming off. Basically addressing comments that had been raised on here.

I can't think any City players would read what is put on this Forum. Obviously Twitter etc but I'd be too busy staying fit, training and getting prepared for te next game both mentally and physically. 

[HighPeakFox]

I won't go on some huge riff here, because, much like racism, issues of abuse go way deeper than football. Suffice to say, there are a lot of unhappy, angry people out there.

[dsr-burnley]

15 minutes ago, Stoopid said:

Accountability. If people are allowed anonymity on their platforms, they'll continue to abuse the privilege. 

Don't see why this need continue. If people had to identify themselves, or their identity was public knowledge, they'd necessarily give more thought to what they said. 

Agreed.  At the very least, it ought to be understand that if the police make a request to social media platforms for the identity of a poster, then it will be given to them in exactly the same way as if the police come round to your house asking if you can identify a person in a photo.  You wouldn't get away with a letter making death threats or racist abuse in a newspaper, because the newspaper wouldn't publish it and wouldn't accept that you had a right to anonymity for public comments. 

[Guest SO1]

17 minutes ago, Stoopid said:

Accountability. If people are allowed anonymity on their platforms, they'll continue to abuse the privilege. 

Don't see why this need continue. If people had to identify themselves, or their identity was public knowledge, they'd necessarily give more thought to what they said. 

Exactly. Ayoze and his posse are coming to your house first.

[Paninistickers]

2 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

I can't think any City players would read what is put on this Forum. Obviously Twitter etc but I'd be too busy staying fit, training and getting prepared for te next game both mentally and physically. 

I dunno. I'm fairly sure if I had a thread devoted to me, I'd read it. And one way or the other, feel the need to right the occasional wrong.

 

That maybe down to my own narcissism but I'm pretty sure there's plenty of others who'd be the same 

[harpendenfox]

I noted that one of our admins referred to a youngster who may play on Wednesday as being 'horse-manure'. I started a reply, but gave up, assuming I'd be dubbed a snowflake for objecting. But it did strike me as strange that a Leicester fan would refer to a young player, who hasn't even played for the first team, as 'horse-manure'. 

[Guest SO1]

4 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I dunno. I'm fairly sure if I had a thread devoted to me, I'd read it. And one way or the other, feel the need to right the occasional wrong.

 

That maybe down to my own narcissism but I'm pretty sure there's plenty of others who'd be the same 

Seriously. To think that you, I or anyone on this forum might actually know something more about football than these kids and those who support them is crazy talk. Foxestalk is entertainment and very rarely education.....at least about football.

[sacreblueits442]

21 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

I can't think any City players would read what is put on this Forum. Obviously Twitter etc but I'd be too busy staying fit, training and getting prepared for te next game both mentally and physically. 

..lots of down time in this sport..idle hands and all that!!!

[Sly]

1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..lots of down time in this sport..idle hands and all that!!!

Pretty sure quite a few players have read this forum at one time. 
 

Alan Sheehan had a bit of a thing with Manwell Pablo if I remember.