2020/21 - The Run In and Top 4 chances - an Ongoing Analysis

[STUHILL]

4 minutes ago, deanolegend1989 said:

Our only chance realistically is somehow scoring first and sh*thousing it, it’s a long shot and it feels like we will need a miracle.

It definitely won't need a miracle to beat Chelsea. They are simply not that good and we are simply not that bad. 

[Tom12345]

18 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

It definitely won't need a miracle to beat Chelsea. They are simply not that good and we are simply not that bad. 

They are good under Tuchel.

 

We got ourselves into this because, amongst other things, we failed to beat 10 man Southampton and lost to Newcastle comprehensively. Chelsea in my opinion is a much stronger opponent by comparison and has everything to play for. They would be very difficult to draw let alone win against.

 

We are without Evans and I fear 3 at the back will get us very exposed.

 

We should not be in this situation given where we were but we are.

Edited 14 May 2021 by Tom12345

[STUHILL]

1 minute ago, Tom12345 said:

They are good under Tuchel.

They are and have been, but they also just lost to a very poor Arsenal side. As I said, it will not take a miracle to beat them. 

[Deeg67]

Amazing, two absolutely monster games with Chelsea back to back.  What a spectacle this will be.

 

Certainly a draw is theoretically better for us than Chelsea.  And I'd take it now if you offered.  But that will likely still leave us with a lot of work to do.  Chelsea will be pushing hard for the 3 points and may offer us some chances to pip them on the counter.  Somehow it feels like Spurs might be the easier game to draw, but Chelsea a better chance to sneak a win.  I don't think Chelsea will be especially tired or worried about resting players - they have a deep squad and enough time until the CL final not to stress over that.

[cruzFOX]

Anything can happen on the day. If our heads are right and hearts are pounding we will give any team a hell of a game. Just like today it all comes down to who wants to win more badly.

is Chelski willing to die on the field for the FA cup when one eye is on the much bigger prize of the champions league? We want it more for all the obvious reasons. Tommy tickle can say what he likes but he’s not on the field playing.

[STUHILL]

The pressure on Chelsea is huge. We can't forget that. Dropping from 3rd to 4th and 2 points behind us and knowing a loss to us on Tuesday takes control out of their hands with Liverpool likely to overtake them, cannot be underestimated. They have an FA Cup final, a Champions League final and a battle to finish in the top 4. These are the same players that were horribly inconsistent for a lot of the season, and cracks appeared against Arsenal and I do see them stumbling in 1 of those 3 pursuits. Hopefully that stumble occurs in the FA Cup and/or Game on Tuesday. 

[Deeg67]

4 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

Anything can happen on the day. If our heads are right and hearts are pounding we will give any team a hell of a game. Just like today it all comes down to who wants to win more badly.

is Chelski willing to die on the field for the FA cup when one eye is on the much bigger prize of the champions league? We want it more for all the obvious reasons. Tommy tickle can say what he likes but he’s not on the field playing.

Chelsea, with their squad and schedule load, has no reason to ease off in any of their remaining 4 games.  Sure they'll prioritize the FA Cup match less than the league one (so should we) and the CL final, but it doesn't matter - they're not that stretched and have depth.  If we beat them tomorrow it won't be because they don't go full-strength or don't care - it will be because we were better.

[knitro]

I can't imagine going through life like Deano - what an insipid and dour person. We're going to be fine, I look forward to our run-in. 

[TJB-fox]

10 minutes ago, knitro said:

I can't imagine going through life like Deano - what an insipid and dour person. We're going to be fine, I look forward to our run-in. 

I begin to read a post and about 1/4 through I glance up and see it’s from him and immediately skip reading it. Sorry deano mate but you talk utter shite 

[cruzFOX]

3 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

I begin to read a post and about 1/4 through I glance up and see it’s from him and immediately skip reading it. Sorry deano mate but you talk utter shite 

I don't like to criticize anyone on here we all are entitled to our opinions so be it however some and especially the media are giving Chelski way too much credit! Even Liverpool after today are suddenly going to win all their games. Sure the betting man might say thats a safe way to go but this season has shown that anything can happen.

To completely write off palace, burnley, West Brom and villa like their trash and will just get rolled over is disrespectful and dangerous! I hope big sam and Hodgers and Smiffy who might not have much to play for are watching all this media BS and suddenly saying to their boys lets show these big 6 charlies and give them a game they will remember. That my friends plays right into our hands as we just have to focus on our job and the rest of the teams will take care of Liverpool and Chelski putting more pressure on them. We can do this and we will do this just watch and see 

[SixtiesFox]

Absolutely must do this by ourselves. Draw with Chelsea and beat Spurs. It will make gatecrashing the exclusive party of the entitled ones all the sweeter..

[cruzFOX]

I wouldn’t take the spuds game for granted either. They’d like nothing better than to ruin it for us. Some of their Mardy fans still haven’t got over their strop of us winning the premier league title like we stole it from them lol. We were way ahead of them and never looked back. Still let’s go beat them too! 👊🏾

[Deeg67]

5 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

I wouldn’t take the spuds game for granted either. They’d like nothing better than to ruin it for us. Some of their Mardy fans still haven’t got over their strop of us winning the premier league title like we stole it from them lol. We were way ahead of them and never looked back. Still let’s go beat them too! 👊🏾

Maybe, but Spurs fans hate Chelsea above all and they'd probably love to be responsible for freezing them out.

[Dahnsouff]

5 hours ago, deanolegend1989 said:

I just think we are absolutely terrible in the 5 atb and will struggle hard in the system vs any decent team. The Man Utd kids barely pressed us yet still scored out of the only small threat we have.

We look poor , we look vulnerable and we haven’t played a good game since Sheffield Utd in the system.

I get we don’t have Barnes and it appears he don’t trust attacking without him but Vards looks no threat and Nacho needs to pull a miracle like this.

Against a very tough to break down Chelsea team who are exactly the type of team who don’t give much at the back but don’t attack that great either, 5 atb just plays into their hands.

Going for it more pressures them, 5atb would blunt out attack and give them the type of game that’s a free roll(never going to concede, try and knick a goal vs our defence and if they score first we are NEVER breaking them down).

Our only chance realistically is somehow scoring first and sh*thousing it, it’s a long shot and it feels like we will need a miracle.

You make a point about missing Barnes and that this is why we feel 352 (stop saying 5 at the back it’s a lie) gives us faux width via the wing backs,  but you then moan about 352 where we clearly have no other trustworthy options. This just feels like petulance, which is a little silly.

[John12345]

I think if NG is fit we lose to Chelsea both games. Tuchel has him playing like a monster. He didn't play vs arsenal. 

[coolhandfox]

To be honest out job is harder, but it means if we do get top 4 we will not have the media narrative that Man U gave us a unfair advantage.

[RumbleFox]

15 minutes ago, John12345 said:

I think if NG is fit we lose to Chelsea both games. Tuchel has him playing like a monster. He didn't play vs arsenal. 

Sadly I fear the same. He’s the best in the world still when on form. Love the wee guy but praying he’s out for at least one of the games. X

[st albans fox]

4 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Sadly I fear the same. He’s the best in the world still when on form. Love the wee guy but praying he’s out for at least one of the games. X

If you’re praying then go the whole hog and ask for all three games. He can have the CL final .....

 

NG has a pain issue from an Achilles problem. Perhaps he can’t play both our games. Will be interesting to see which one he doesn’t if that’s the case ...

[chapero82]

7 hours ago, STUHILL said:

Yeh but I hate that way! It will be unbearable to have to win on the last day with nobbers like Kane and Son on the attack every other minute! 

 

Change your probable to us beating Chelsea on Tuesday please. 

I agree mate but it’s the Leicester way to do it the hard way  

[Guest bennytwohats]

24 minutes ago, John12345 said:

I think if NG is fit we lose to Chelsea both games. Tuchel has him playing like a monster. He didn't play vs arsenal. 

If Ndidi plays as well as he can then that will be one hell of a battle. I don’t think we’ve ever seen them go toe to toe when they’re both at their best.

 

I can’t see us losing to them back to back, we are too smart for that. Can’t help but feel whoever wins the FA cup drops points in the league

[Alf Bentley]

Spurs will probably need a win from that last game themselves - probably either to secure a Europa League slot or maybe to avoid missing out on Europe altogether.

 

Mathematically, they could still catch Chelsea and qualify for the Champions' League, but only if Chelsea get no more than 1 point from their game against us and their last match at Villa.

Spurs' last 2 matches before us are Wolves H and Villa H, which they could win....

 

Whether it makes it easier or more difficult for us if they need a win, I don't know....I tend to think a bit easier, provided we're in resilient, not panic mode.

[FrankieADZ]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

If you’re praying then go the whole hog and ask for all three games. He can have the CL final .....

 

NG has a pain issue from an Achilles problem. Perhaps he can’t play both our games. Will be interesting to see which one he doesn’t if that’s the case ...

if NG's pain issue is bad, they might not risk him tbh, since i can imagine theyd want him back for the UCL final above all, more so than our 2 games

[FoxesWalk]

A few months ago, when our injury list was at its worst, if you offered me our position now I would have bitten your hand off.

 

Its pretty remarkable we are still in the top 4 and in a cup final. We have had worse injuries than Liverpool and have a considerably shallower squad, yet we have outperformed them and held our place. If being forced into 3 at the back hadn’t helped to get Kelechci on form we would be looking up at the top 4 now, and debating if we would make Europa league or even the UEFA conference league... 

[Guest Col city fan]

Last night for us was a bad night. 
Quite simply we need to not lose both our remaining games. 

[Guest Col city fan]

1 hour ago, chapero82 said:

I agree mate but it’s the Leicester way to do it the hard way  

It always is mate. Leicester never do things easily! (Apart from 2016)