Brendan Rodgers

[Aus Fox]

There is no way any manager with a good reputation and a pretty safe job goes to Newcastle first up.

Without the take over and new signings in January they get relegated this season.

I can’t see them bringing in too many players in Jan other than paying over the odds for players whose contracts are up at the end of the season. They really could still go down this season, whoever takes over from Bruce will be sacked at the end of the season, someone else will come in next season and start the rebuild.

The smart manager - which BR is, waits observes the project from afar and goes in there at the start of the 23/24 season.

Newcastle won’t be close to Europe before then.

[Aus Fox]

1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

If there’s genuine interest and an approach then Rodgers will jump ship SO hard and SO fast.
 

But we’ve always known that would be the case and that’s why his name is rarely sung on the terraces and we haven’t exactly been enamoured with him as a fan base in the way we largely were with Pearson, Ranieri and O’Neill.

 

(Which is also why, despite a very successful period here, his first tricky spell hasn’t seen him with deep reserves of patience to draw upon)

First tricky patch?

Wasn’t that at the end of the 19/20 season? When everyone saw us slip to 5th for the first time? And many on here said he couldn’t turn it around and he was too stubborn?

Read through any of the 20/21 threads preseason where some actually thought we’d go down - he turned it around and although we ran out of steam at the end of that season again, we still took the FA Cup with us.

There has definitely been genuine interest from Tottenham since he’s been here and we haven’t seen him run and jump, not sure why he would for Newcastle.

[Corky]

17 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Absolutely ridiculous 

It's not even happened yet, if it will, and we're beating him with that stick?

[Hales]

1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

Why Quote me...I said it stays a mystery...

Whatever...Its Rodgers call...

 

Rodgers might of got Albrighton & Praet Mixed up...

I quoted you as I was responding to something you said just like now. Whoops done it again! 😂 

[Blanchflower78]

If its genuine he's gone, no debate

[trabuch]

2 hours ago, winteriscoming said:

Really don’t get this obsession with Potter. We can do better than him if/when Rodgers leaves. 
As already stated Rodgers is better than Potter. 

I suspect Potter thinks he can do better than us too.

[jayfox26]

I think he would rather bide his time a little longer and wait for the Man U job. Even if they give Ole a new contract, I really can't see him being there past this season. 

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

I think he would rather bide his time a little longer and wait for the Man U job. Even if they give Ole a new contract, I really can't see him being there past this season. 

Man U are not going to hire Rodgers or Potter, whichever you are commenting on.

[jayfox26]

1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said:

Man U are not going to hire Rodgers or Potter, whichever you are commenting on.

Rodgers. I reckon they might. Depends on whether he improves our form anytime soon. He isn't doing his reputation any favours with our shocking performances this season. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I am not convinced that Rodgers will ever be first choice with the established elite sides such as Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool again. Yes he was courted by both Arsenal and Tottenham but at a time when both were struggling and in transition. 
 

For me his record in Europe isn’t great and also his record at clubs after 3 or so seasons also shows significant question marks as to whether he really is an elite manager or just one of the better also rans, therefore his best opportunity to be a top 4 manager sits with clubs like ourselves, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs (when he had the chance) and now Newcastle. 
 

He has nearly got there twice with us but would appear that his best opportunities to take Leicester to the Champions League have been missed, so Newcastle represents that opportunity again, and to be fair he is the kind of manager who could have Newcastle competing for European positions next season after 2 transfer windows of significant investment. 
 

the stars look they are aligning for our Brendan, cracks and question marks starting to appear, our form is poor and our style of play looks stagnant, we appear to have hit our ceiling with Brendan and he with us, he has delivered a major trophy and European football so leave for this very bright and bigger shiny toy with his head high and reputation enhanced or he can hang around and in 3 months time run the risk that the Leicester project has gone sour and he his left to scrap it out for lower-mid table vacancies in the future, look at Eddie Howe. 

[Guest Col city fan]

7 hours ago, trabuch said:

I suspect Potter thinks he can do better than us too.

I’d rather have Harry Potter

@Finnegan

[Deeg67]

Nah, with managers you really want to stick with someone Ravenclaw.

[Billynomates]

46 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I am not convinced that Rodgers will ever be first choice with the established elite sides such as Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool again. Yes he was courted by both Arsenal and Tottenham but at a time when both were struggling and in transition. 
 

For me his record in Europe isn’t great and also his record at clubs after 3 or so seasons also shows significant question marks as to whether he really is an elite manager or just one of the better also rans, therefore his best opportunity to be a top 4 manager sits with clubs like ourselves, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs (when he had the chance) and now Newcastle. 
 

He has nearly got there twice with us but would appear that his best opportunities to take Leicester to the Champions League have been missed, so Newcastle represents that opportunity again, and to be fair he is the kind of manager who could have Newcastle competing for European positions next season after 2 transfer windows of significant investment. 
 

the stars look they are aligning for our Brendan, cracks and question marks starting to appear, our form is poor and our style of play looks stagnant, we appear to have hit our ceiling with Brendan and he with us, he has delivered a major trophy and European football so leave for this very bright and bigger shiny toy with his head high and reputation enhanced or he can hang around and in 3 months time run the risk that the Leicester project has gone sour and he his left to scrap it out for lower-mid table vacancies in the future, look at Eddie Howe. 

The problems we have aren’t as a result of Brendan rodgers, there is a lot more at play behind the scenes and this is filtering through to the players now.

 

Rodgers is striving for perfection and I believe has no interest in leaving. Yes for the first time with us he is under criticism with performances, internally, but a dysfunctional 12 months and ‘office politics’ are currently being voiced and scrutinised.

 

he’s always had a project here, Newcastle would be suicidal for any promising manager that isn’t a mercenary.

[Pliskin]

This thread is incredible if you read this as a neutral you’d think;

 

Rodgers hates us and is desperate to leave

 

We’re shit, and all of our key players want to leave

 

We belong in the championship

 

No one actually likes Brendan because no one sings his name, and he has bottled two top four finishes and accidentally won the FA cup, thanks to a fat immobile player hitting a lucky shot, who will join Newcastle with Rodgers.

Graham potter is as good as his cousin Harry, yet he still wouldn’t come to us because we’re shit.

 

Brendan has already packed his pants and socks and has been seen to be running towards the north, with dollar signs in his eyes., oh wait, because we’re shit.

 

Newcastle Madrid are huge, and will buy Leicestershire and rebrand it the “we love Newcastle” supporters group. 
 

missed anything? Ah yes I forgot we are shit! 
 

Some folk need to get a grip of reality. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 minute ago, Billynomates said:

The problems we have aren’t as a result of Brendan rodgers, there is a lot more at play behind the scenes and this is filtering through to the players now.

 

Rodgers is striving for perfection and I believe has no interest in leaving. Yes for the first time with us he is under criticism with performances, internally, but a dysfunctional 12 months and ‘office politics’ are currently being voiced and scrutinised.

 

he’s always had a project here, Newcastle would be suicidal for any promising manager that isn’t a mercenary.

Interesting points you raise, is this with any inside knowledge or just your opinions? 

[Spudulike]

5 minutes ago, Billynomates said:

The problems we have aren’t as a result of Brendan rodgers, there is a lot more at play behind the scenes and this is filtering through to the players now.

 

Rodgers is striving for perfection and I believe has no interest in leaving. Yes for the first time with us he is under criticism with performances, internally, but a dysfunctional 12 months and ‘office politics’ are currently being voiced and scrutinised.

 

he’s always had a project here, Newcastle would be suicidal for any promising manager that isn’t a mercenary.

Has this coincided with the move to Seagrave or was it going on before? Anything to do with Rennie being moved on? 

[volpeazzurro]

10 minutes ago, Billynomates said:

The problems we have aren’t as a result of Brendan rodgers, there is a lot more at play behind the scenes and this is filtering through to the players now.

 

Rodgers is striving for perfection and I believe has no interest in leaving. Yes for the first time with us he is under criticism with performances, internally, but a dysfunctional 12 months and ‘office politics’ are currently being voiced and scrutinised.

 

he’s always had a project here, Newcastle would be suicidal for any promising manager that isn’t a mercenary.

Nothing wrong with striving for perfection really, as long as that perfection isn't Barcelona style play because it took a really special nucleus of players to perfect it with unique style of play went with them.

 

By dysfunctional 12 months I'm taking it you're referring to covid and injuries. Can you elaborate upon what the 'office politics' are you aware of some unrest behind the scenes? If so, between whom?

[Crazy Kop Corner]

My impression from the supporters that go home and away is that Brendan is extremely popular. 

 

I appreciate this season has been poor and disappointing up to now but with 3 of the back 4 out and other key players coming back from injury or being over played is to be expected. 

 

I remember Martin O'Neil having some terrible runs of games back in the day and he still (rightly) has legendary status. 

 

We just need to hang in there and if / when everyone is fit we could see a charge rather than a whimper for the last 12/15 games of the season 

 

 

[Grebfromgrebland]

5 minutes ago, Crazy Kop Corner said:

My impression from the supporters that go home and away is that Brendan is extremely popular. 

 

I appreciate this season has been poor and disappointing up to now but with 3 of the back 4 out and other key players coming back from injury or being over played is to be expected. 

 

I remember Martin O'Neil having some terrible runs of games back in the day and he still (rightly) has legendary status. 

 

We just need to hang in there and if / when everyone is fit we could see a charge rather than a whimper for the last 12/15 games of the season 

 

 

Exactly we're a small squad who has lost 4 of our back 4 with Ricardo coming back and not reaching the levels of before. Castagne had a serious head injury in the summer. Soyunchu is out of form and Vestergaard isn't as good as the players he's replacing.

 

Name me another team that can lose their entire defence and not suffer.

Edited 13 October 2021 by Grebfromgrebland

[Guest ttfn]

26 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

 

 

Name me another team that can lose their entire defence and not suffer.

Norwich could play with a back 0 and not be any worse defensively

[Billynomates]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

Has this coincided with the move to Seagrave or was it going on before? Anything to do with Rennie being moved on? 

I could go on for a while here so I’ll just try and keep it light for now.

 

ive posted previously (last year, early this) that:

1. Susan Whelan runs a fear factory. She may have won an award but that’s an outside view, inside view is that she is not nice. She is the solution to some issues and cause of others.

2. Various staff have been moved on, Dave rennie and plenty more that have been with the club for years.

3. inter departmental conflicts

4. a lot if not all staff hate the morale, coincidental with move to seagrave but I’m unsure of it’s the cause.

5. Winning fa cup and achieving 5th has brought arrogance to a lot of people, this could be a temporary blip?

6. Talking to the birch yesterday, all the above is shared.

7. Stadium expansion is poorly managed by CEO who wants beyond a pound of flesh.

8. Seagrave is incredible but has teething issues in terms of day to day operations and player management, they all leave after training and Brendan is trying them to integrate as a friends afterwards.

 

there is a feeling the bubble has burst and it’s difficult to shake off. But looking at individual performances for their countries (ward/Tielemans/Castagne/cags) it’s reflected. They may have hit a glass ceiling and seemingly Brendan is the only one trying to sort it, he cares so much. 
 

on a side note, mark albrighton is first in and last out. BR wants him to be a leader off the pitch and the younger players to take an example.

 

summary, yea we have major behind the scenes problems and some people are ignoring/hiding.

[Dahnsouff]

Well thats not ideal...

[volpeazzurro]

33 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Exactly we're a small squad who has lost 4 of our back 4 with Ricardo coming back and not reaching the levels of before. Castagne had a serious head injury in the summer. Soyunchu is out of form and Vestergaard isn't as good as the players he's replacing.

 

Name me another team that can lose their entire defence and not suffer.

Of course, losing the players we have from the back 4 we have done is an issue. However, let's be honest and realistic, we still have 4 to choose from out of Ricardo, Castagne, Thomas, Bertrand, Vestergaard, Soyuncu and Armarty! Not too many of our competitors have that luxury. Any defence would miss Evans and Fofana but not many have that calibre of player to start with.

 

Whilst they are a loss, I suggest part of the problem also has not just been the back four, but more what's been going on in front of them ie poor team selections and tactics which afford them little protection. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

12 minutes ago, Billynomates said:

I could go on for a while here so I’ll just try and keep it light for now.

 

ive posted previously (last year, early this) that:

1. Susan Whelan runs a fear factory. She may have won an award but that’s an outside view, inside view is that she is not nice. She is the solution to some issues and cause of others.

2. Various staff have been moved on, Dave rennie and plenty more that have been with the club for years.

3. inter departmental conflicts

4. a lot if not all staff hate the morale, coincidental with move to seagrave but I’m unsure of it’s the cause.

5. Winning fa cup and achieving 5th has brought arrogance to a lot of people, this could be a temporary blip?

6. Talking to the birch yesterday, all the above is shared.

7. Stadium expansion is poorly managed by CEO who wants beyond a pound of flesh.

8. Seagrave is incredible but has teething issues in terms of day to day operations and player management, they all leave after training and Brendan is trying them to integrate as a friends afterwards.

 

there is a feeling the bubble has burst and it’s difficult to shake off. But looking at individual performances for their countries (ward/Tielemans/Castagne/cags) it’s reflected. They may have hit a glass ceiling and seemingly Brendan is the only one trying to sort it, he cares so much. 
 

on a side note, mark albrighton is first in and last out. BR wants him to be a leader off the pitch and the younger players to take an example.

 

summary, yea we have major behind the scenes problems and some people are ignoring/hiding.

Thanks for the insight and certainly the context  of what is going on behind the scenes. From what you are hearing and obviously the fact that Brendan is working so hard to resolve some of these issues do you believe that he still has the support of the squad? 

[Billynomates]

Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Well thats not ideal...

Nope.

 

ive been a lcfc fan for years, I’ve been to more games outside of premier league than in. I’ve been lucky enough to be involved in recent years and have made great friends.

 

I think that as fans we forget where we were. Maddison last year was caught on camera saying “we need the fans” mid match, yet when fans turn up we’re all a bit daft and ignorant, forgetting where we came from.

 

we identify a ‘singing section’ and fans laugh at it.

 

really I wish I could start a fans movement to implore everyone to remember that 13 years ago we were in league 1 with mid championship finishes being ‘best possible’ pro and preceding that season.

 

we all need to get a grip and support our teams for two hours on match days. The one thing we have that other clubs don’t are that the majority of our players want to be here.

 

vent over.