What caused us to not get it done today?

[turlo]

10 minutes ago, foxinsox said:

My point is though that they may not have a spare £120 million for what is obviously a gamble, not a sure thing, as any number of clubs show.

 

Duty Free must be losing money hand over fist, and likely to be so for some time yet in largely unvaccinated SE Asia.

King Power took a 50% loss in sales revenue last year due to Covid and tourism in Thailand is still dead. 

[Ricey]

Injuries and lack of depth are the reasons, but arguably recruitment has played a big part.

 

We’ve really missed Barnes as he’s our outlet and the only player that will run at defences, but you then have to question the signing of Under and lack of replacement for Gray.

 

We’ve struggled for creativity when Maddison has been injured/unfit, but you then have to question the signings of Perez and Praet.

 

We’ve ended the season with two up top. Vardy isn’t fit and Iheanacho is inconsistent. You then have to question why we didn’t sign a third striker.

 

We’ve tried to strengthen that next layer of the squad but not particularly successfully.

[turlo]

10 minutes ago, Fox85 said:

120m is not a gamble in terms of the premier league...

 

They make that money back in 2 seasons in sponsorship deals and TV payments.

 

If they sold a key player they get their money back.

 

The premier league is a constant income if more was spent they will receive more in the long run it nothing like relying on duty free.

 

AS LONG AS THEY DONT SIGN ANY MORE AYOZE PEREZ'S

 

 

They don't make that back though as the commercial money and TV money goes into running the club.. Our wage bill alone is 80-90% of our overall turnover. The owners dropping 120 mill on sale purchases is a big ask, especially when they don't always hold their value like a fixed asset generally would. 

[FoxOnWheels]

We don’t need to spend stupid, just get 3 players who can play in the first eleven ship out the 3 worse and that way we end up with better quality on the bench and can select players on form and not how good they can be 

[foxinsocks]

7 minutes ago, Ricey said:

Injuries and lack of depth are the reasons, but arguably recruitment has played a big part.

 

We’ve really missed Barnes as he’s our outlet and the only player that will run at defences, but you then have to question the signing of Under and lack of replacement for Gray.

 

We’ve struggled for creativity when Maddison has been injured/unfit, but you then have to question the signings of Perez and Praet.

 

We’ve ended the season with two up top. Vardy isn’t fit and Iheanacho is inconsistent. You then have to question why we didn’t sign a third striker.

 

We’ve tried to strengthen that next layer of the squad but not particularly successfully.

We need two more strikers and a striker coach. 

Vardy is getting on.. Fuchs and wes have left the squad... under could have been grays replacement... now we have neither. We need more players not fewer.

 

[bmt]

2 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

It wasnt about today, it was the losses to Fulham, West Ham, Newcastle etc. Move on.

I don't get how this has so many likes. It was about today. We were winning and messed it up. We could have reacted to what was happening in the game and we didn't. I'm not that pissed off about it but we absolutely could have won today without bad decisions and all the games you mentioned would have been forgotten.

[bmt]

2 hours ago, Bert Fill said:

We started without our best centre back because he’s injured. Then our best remaining centre back had to go off injured relatively early on. That’ll do it.

That isn't why we lost. Those things really derailed us but sensible game management against a crap spurs side would have seen us over the line.

[TeaMen Tom]

2 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

It wasnt about today, it was the losses to Fulham, West Ham, Newcastle etc. Move on.

Which speaks to depth. The key question is can a club with LCFC's finances develop enough depth to prevent that from happening?  In the current world of football my guess would be no. A team like Leicester has to be near perfect in constructing their roster - which they have been - and then have some good luck with injuries, which has not really been the case for the past 2 seasons.  

[Bryn]

Can I give you all some advice? Go chill out and don't think about football for a while.

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Fox85 said:

We don't have the players to get the job done after our best 11.

 

Replace Perez with someone like buendia

Replace mendy with soumare 

Replace choudary with willock

Replace fuchs with Bertrand 

Sign a CB infact 2, 1 being dunk or tarkowski 

Sign edouard 

 

We need a right winger this is urgent 3 seasons ago.

 

For the first time use money from the owners for the first time in years instead of selling players and go for it.

 

 

Regardless we have had a amazing season I'd rather have a trophy than champions league football.

 

Sign the above and we will have champions league football next year 

Sorry But I had to laugh...

just Read your post First my Glasses shipped down & I read....

 

Sign a CB infact 2, 1 being dunk or tarkowski ...has:-

 

Sign a CB infact 2, 1 being drunk or totaleski ....!

[ARM1968]

4 minutes ago, Bryn said:

Can I give you all some advice? Go chill out and don't think about football for a while.

Plastic

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

For me Fofana going off injured was a big turning point. It meant more square pegs in round holes. After that we had a back 3 of Castagne (full back), Wilf (mid) and Cags (CB). Talk about make shift.

 

So for me injuries have cost not getting the top 4 trophy, but who cares we won the FA Cup - though if we lose YT because of not getting CL it will be horrid.

Edited 24 May 2021 by Wasyls Pec Deck

[sacreblueits442]

13 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

Honestly, I think a long hard season just caught up on everyone. 

 

The injuries have played a huge part especially the loss of Barnes with his pace and directness.

 

You could question some decisions from Brendan but that's being picky.

 

Would I have taken an FA Cup win and 5th at the start of the season, I certainly would. 

 

So let's enjoy the Summer and come back stronger in August.

 

.. would you take that next season, if offered now!!!

[Rusko187]

Combination of things, ultimately the injuries got us in the end. Playing a DM, RB and 1 CB in a backline intended for 3 CBs. 

 

They tried, they couldn't do it. If we want to climb that next rung, we need to spend money and expand our squad, whilst not losing any quality. We cannot sell any player that we didn't intend to this summer.

 

CB, LB, Mid, Winger and Striker all needed.

[sacreblueits442]

13 hours ago, splinterdream said:

Squad depth of quality. We have players like amartey, praet, under, Morgan, fuchs, hamza, who will never get on the pitch. We have had to play players like Perez who for me is just a passenger, We have had players dead on their feet and none of these bench players had a chance of playing because Rodgers doesn't think they're good enough

...those players have at one time played for us this season!!!

 Opportunity to use Praet when Maddison not at it and Perez run out of steam. Played Choudhury to bolster the midfield and to see out a game. Plays Morgan to combat aerial threat and see out a game, for some reason will not play Ünder, Fuchs has been used also. 

[An Sionnach]

The opposition know that our midfield can be bullied and that appears to be the principle tactic. Nearly a third of matches lost in a season tells you something . Jonny's absence left us with a central core of under 25 y. .olds and history tells you that, with very few exceptions that doesn't work. I am not blaming Rodgers because on the day he had few options. The squad needs more experience , absentees JJ and Barnes are also relatively inexperienced. A couple of quality players with long CVs would go a long way to avoid this mental fragility.

Edited 24 May 2021 by An Sionnach

[splinterdream]

32 minutes ago, Rusko187 said:

Combination of things, ultimately the injuries got us in the end. Playing a DM, RB and 1 CB in a backline intended for 3 CBs. 

 

They tried, they couldn't do it. If we want to climb that next rung, we need to spend money and expand our squad, whilst not losing any quality. We cannot sell any player that we didn't intend to this summer.

 

CB, LB, Mid, Winger and Striker all needed.

The injuries is another thing, we also look knackered in the last half of the game, I wonder if the players are either over trained or under trained, certainly something isn't right that needs looking at imo

[Dahnsouff]

Nothing that happened today

[Twitcher]

As someone has said it's a combination of things:-

1) Injuries. Don't need to list those.

2) Mental strength. I'm not sure the players truly thought it was possible yesterday. I saw a different mentality in the cup final.

3) Physical strength. Too many times players are going over, looking at the ref. and just hoping something will change for them. Did you watch Brentford v Bournemouth; bruising and brutal. We needed more of that.

4) Possibly tactics. I thought Mendy did okay in midfield but we lost our shape. In fairness it was later on as we were pushing up.

5) Form. One example that stood out to me was Maddison in the first half. He's on the ball and just let Tielemans take over. The team from earlier in the season with quick, slick passing has been replaced by a slow team that are reluctant to take on defenders, either down the wings, or down the middle.

6) Creativity; apart from the pens., (one of which was a dive) there was nothing.

 

Next Season:

I don't necessarily share the optimism of fans who think we are creating a dynasty. I think there's more fragility at times than people realise. If we don't replace Vardy and Kel. goes back to the old Kel, (the one playing in the last three games) then where are the goals? Barnes yes, but it will need more.

We've got two great young defenders, but set pieces are a real worry.

I always used to say I'd bite your hand off for fourth from bottom if you offered it me at the start, and maybe even me, with my natural pessimism aspires to more than that now, but I do think it's a fine line between where we are and mid-table. I think we need to be realistic though; Coventry; Birmingham City; Derby; Sunderland; Ipswich; both Sheffield's; Forest. For many years we've been that size, and probably still are. So we are punching above our weight. We have to accept players will want to move on. The recruitment has been excellent. So a good season. We don't deserve the stick we are getting from trolls who don't realise it has been a good season. Everything is relative. We should be in the CL, but it's possible to explain why we aren't. 

Here's to another successful season. 

 

Edit: to add; 12 defeats, almost a third of your games. That isn't Champions League.

Edited 24 May 2021 by Twitcher

[urban fox]

Squad depth has obviously been a factor with our injuries etc. However, this is where I see the problem. Top players will sign to be a squad filler for the big clubs as they know they will get rotation and pick up medals (not to mention bigger pay packets), whereas those types of player would only come here if expecting to start every week. Even discounting the finances, that makes it more difficult for the likes of us to build that sort of depth. People forget that it took Man City a few seasons to build that, with some of their targets not committing until they saw who else was going to sign. We need another couple of years of consistently challenging in and around the top six/four and trophies to be in that position. Rome was not built in a day.

we need players to recognise what we are trying to build and who are prepared to buy into that ethos but this summers recruitment will be key. Who we replace Morgan, Fuchs etc with and the eventual successor to Vardy will show our level of ambition (not to mention the state of our finances)

[Duquesne Whistle]

5 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

The opposition know that our midfield can be bullied 

Spot on. Our worst defeats were on occasions where the oppositions physicality overwhelmed us. West Ham at home being the standout example.

[yorkie1999]

We needed to handle last day pressure and we couldn't. Saying it's about the bad results through the season is all very well and good, but Chelsea had bad results as well, it was on a plate for us but being 2-1 up and keeping 2 strikers on, who were on their last legs was ridiculous. we should have bought Amartey on for Wes when he got injured, kept Ndidi in midfield then taken Nacho and vardy off and brought Preat and Choudhury on and defended for our lives. Boot the ball clear at every chance and wasted as much time as possible. This is what other teams do, i felt we were naive, we were 2-1 up and needed to manage the game instead of turning it into a mass panic.

[grumpy old git]

If we look at the last game only we will win nothing with only one CB on the pitch, when Fofana got injured and had to come off it left us wide open as BR brought on Mendy and moved Ndidi to CB not in my opinion a great move.

If we have defenders on the bench like Big Wes, Amartey or Fuchs but he does not trust them enough to play them we have a big problem?

We need a squad with more depth and a bench that we can trust to do their job on the pitch.

 

[mozartfox]

Some of the reasons perhaps?  Take your pick. Several may have contributed?  I may have missed some.

 

Our home record.

Injuries and the effect it had on Ricardo/Madders respective recoveries.

No fans in the Stadium/Individual mistakes (same for all teams).

Several squad players not being good enough (same for most teams below top 4).

Failure to bolster the top-end of the pitch (last 6 windows).

Absence of a badly needed overhaul of the U23's set-up.

COVID affect over the past two seasons

Being unable to shift the forest of deadwood we had on the books at the start of the season.

 

and not forgetting Ritchie Wellens.

[filbertway]