UK to bake in 33C amid extreme heat warning

[dsr-burnley]

4 hours ago, Parafox said:

1976 was an exception in that there were 15 consecutive days of temps of 32 degrees Celsius, days with relentless sun with no cloud or rain. The ground was cracking and crops were failing. This "heatwave" is set to last until Wednesday. 3-4 days. 

Sure we need to be aware and forewarned and it won't be pleasant. But in context, its 3 days not 2 weeks.

1976 heatwave lasted a lot longer than 15 days, though.  The 32+ temperatures lasted 15 days to mid-July, but the 6 weeks after that were still mostly 25-30 degrees and dry.  It wasn't till the last week of August that it rained and cooled down.

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, String fellow said:

I was also trying to compare the hardship we may endure over the next couple of days with the hardship that Ukraine has had to endure over the last 5 months, with Putin's missiles raining down on them daily. The beast from the east was originally that bitterly cold spell early last year, but now he fits the same description. 

What the Earth can do in terms of inflicting hardship makes anything Vlad can do look like a pleasant day at the seaside. What's happening now is just a preview of that.

 

I would hope that is reasonably obvious.

 

I know it's good for some folks to have a nice human-shaped boogeyman to rail against for various reasons (and goodness knows Putin has done all he can to fit that profile recently) but the biggest, baddest boogeyman around will still, first, last, always, be, forces of nature. Barring some incredible leaps of technology in the future, of course.

[grobyfox1990]

Yep. We are the only animal in existence who willfully destroys its own habitat. No other animal is so stupid 

[st albans fox]

7 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

1976 heatwave lasted a lot longer than 15 days, though.  The 32+ temperatures lasted 15 days to mid-July, but the 6 weeks after that were still mostly 25-30 degrees and dry.  It wasn't till the last week of August that it rained and cooled down.

25 - 30 is not a big problem, especially if we get night time temps low enough to allow buildings to cool down 

 

fortunately this will only be a two day extreme scenario but tomorrow is going to be v uncomfortable after a v warm night.  If Wednesday was also extreme then we would be in for some huge problems across the vulnerable population.  Don’t rule out a repeat in august as europe looks to stay v hot. 

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Yep. We are the only animal in existence who willfully destroys its own habitat. No other animal is so stupid 

We have a cat that pisses everywhere …….

[Vlad the Fox]

14 hours ago, Benguin said:

I’m one of the managers at an outdoor pursuit centre. We are doing a few bits, such as programming sessions sensibly, ie an instructor in the sun one session and then in the shade the next but other than that it’s business as normal here. 

I’ll probably give it a go, if it gets too much then stop. Try and pick a job to do in the shade. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

Still going to be cooler than Death Valley in the US by a whole ten degrees, what's all the fuss about.

 

Possible idea for name for a new housing development there, take note house builders!

[fox_favourite]

1 minute ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Still going to be cooler than Death Valley in the US by a whole ten degrees, what's all the fuss about.

 

Possible idea for name for a new housing development there, take note house builders!

That’s crazy! That’s like building houses on slash lane in Sileby! Different extreme, but you get the idea. Hehe

[fox_favourite]

30 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Yep. We are the only animal in existence who willfully destroys its own habitat. No other animal is so stupid 

We are generally a stupid species. Well, probably more selfish I guess.

 

so far 2022 has brought us:

 

- continuing covid

- Putin’s war

- record temperatures

- highest inflation for decades.

im sure there’s more… can we not save changes and start the year again?! 

Edited 18 July 2022 by fox_favourite

[SecretPro]

Temps already ramping up

[Zear0]

[Tommy G]

The heat in this country tends to be much more uncomfortable that abroad, I've just been in Spain for 2 weeks - was 35C most days and was OK, helps with a pool etc but they are just built for it, and respect it - no one is out having a pint between 12-3pm (just the british) The Spanish are out and about til noon then they reappear at 4 ish. You can guarentee today people will become il from probaby sitting in a beer garden all afternoon with no hat or spf etc. 

[Jon the Hat]

2 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

The heat in this country tends to be much more uncomfortable that abroad, I've just been in Spain for 2 weeks - was 35C most days and was OK, helps with a pool etc but they are just built for it, and respect it - no one is out having a pint between 12-3pm (just the british) The Spanish are out and about til noon then they reappear at 4 ish. You can guarentee today people will become il from probaby sitting in a beer garden all afternoon with no hat or spf etc. 

I tend to agree.  We had 40+ here in Perth for I think 16 days in the Summer, but I would guess 40 in the UK will feel a lot worse.  Also we have houses at least partly built for the heat*, aircon, cars in garage, undercover parking in lots of places and the sea and river to jump in.

 

*although the days of houses coming with rap around verandas or even over hangs to keep them cool are mostly over.

[Guest Lako42]

11 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

The heat in this country tends to be much more uncomfortable that abroad, I've just been in Spain for 2 weeks - was 35C most days and was OK, helps with a pool etc but they are just built for it, and respect it - no one is out having a pint between 12-3pm (just the british) The Spanish are out and about til noon then they reappear at 4 ish. You can guarentee today people will become il from probaby sitting in a beer garden all afternoon with no hat or spf etc. 

 

6 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

I tend to agree.  We had 40+ here in Perth for I think 16 days in the Summer, but I would guess 40 in the UK will feel a lot worse.  Also we have houses at least partly built for the heat*, aircon, cars in garage, undercover parking in lots of places and the sea and river to jump in.

 

*although the days of houses coming with rap around verandas or even over hangs to keep them cool are mostly over.

Its the humidity here that makes it feel much worse than many hot countries we holiday in. 

[kenny]

Staff struggling to get to work due to cancelled trains. What causes that??

[The Syrup]

24 minutes ago, kenny said:

Staff struggling to get to work due to cancelled trains. What causes that??

Heat causes the rails to expand and buckle, hence you get speed restrictions or cancellations. Rails in the UK are stressed to 27C, hence speed restrictions are in place when it gets hot. Hotter countries stress their rails to higher temperatures so don't have some of these issues.

Edited 18 July 2022 by The Syrup

[grobyfox1990]

From a glimpse of the initial nonsense being spoken on Teams at work you can already tell this is one of those occasions where loads of wet wipes and idle nobodies tut at anyone who’s planning to go for lunch, meet friends, go to a gig, step outside their homes today. ‘And he went to the pub after work, it’s just SO irresponsible!!’ 

[Legend_in_blue]

Currently 25 but the over exaggeration of the current temperature on radio phone ins and the presenters running with it is embarrassing.  Ended up turning it off.  People claiming 28 at 845am.  

[walkerleeds]

9 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

From a glimpse of the initial nonsense being spoken on Teams at work you can already tell this is one of those occasions where loads of wet wipes and idle nobodies tut at anyone who’s planning to go for lunch, meet friends, go to a gig, step outside their homes today. ‘And he went to the pub after work, it’s just SO irresponsible!!’ 

 

Don't be overly concerned with the actions of other people. You do you my man.

Edited 18 July 2022 by walkerleeds

[kenny]

29 minutes ago, The Syrup said:

Heat causes the rails to expand and buckle, hence you get speed restrictions or cancellations. Rails in the UK are stressed to 27C, hence speed restrictions are in place when it gets hot. Hotter countries stress their rails to higher temperatures so don't have some of these issues.

They are cancelling them in the morning long before it gets to that temperature?

[grobyfox1990]

13 minutes ago, walkerleeds said:

 

Don't be overly concerned with the actions of other people. You do you my man.

Oh absolutely agreed. It’s an interesting social observation though. We have advanced our standard of living to such a state of comfortable idleness that our main worries are no longer hunting for food and shelter, but stressing about whether people wear masks and leaving the house when it’s 35 degrees 

[RowlattsFox]

Pretty managaeable on the Fylde Coast so far, just about touches 30 late this afternoon. Not looking forward to playing football tonight though 

 

Nights are the worst part, had a rubbish night sleep last night and it wasn't even that hot, constant paranoid that my one year old is too hot in his box room. 

[The Syrup]

10 minutes ago, kenny said:

They are cancelling them in the morning long before it gets to that temperature?

Think it's just easier to have a temporary timetable or total suspension for the whole day. Leicester to London trains are running some sort of service I believe, yet Cross country trains have suspended the Leicester - Melton - Stansted service completely until Wednesday. None of this helps if you still have to get to work though.

[leicsmac]

11 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Oh absolutely agreed. It’s an interesting social observation though. We have advanced our standard of living to such a state of comfortable idleness that our main worries are no longer hunting for food and shelter, but stressing about whether people wear masks and leaving the house when it’s 35 degrees 

Of course, given sufficient application of that 35 degrees then the question of hunting for enough food and water and finding adequate shelter might arise again.

 

It already is in quite a few places, and there's no reason to suspect that number won't increase in the near and mid term future.

[st albans fox]

40 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Currently 25 but the over exaggeration of the current temperature on radio phone ins and the presenters running with it is embarrassing.  Ended up turning it off.  People claiming 28 at 845am.  

9am maxes 

Some people will have thermometers which are in stevensons screens so will return erroneous higher readings. 
of course some places could well have been 28c at 8:45 based those numbers below but prob a degree or so too high. 

 

 Btw, there are quite a few 29c readings at 10:15.  

 

Edited 18 July 2022 by st albans fox