Rossiter Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 Imo we need someone up front who is good on the ball. Don't have to be fast. Just good on the ball. Think Alan Smith, Mike Newell, David Kelly (to an extent), Tony Cottee, Kevin Phillips. Steve Claridge was fairly good on the ball. Also someone who takes a chance and anticipates things. Maybe won't score 20 goals a season but will bring other players in. 2
Guy Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 5 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: That finish against West Ham was a total fluke wasn't it. Indeed, it's no good scoring one wonder goal a season but missing easy chances into treble figures each season. I can't believe he's still here tbh - the Danny Ward equivalent in attack! 3
Guy Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sly said: Tiatto and Hume immediately spring to mind. Daka isn’t great as a forward and I think he’d be better as a wide player. Only challenge, I’ve no idea if he can actually beat a full back or cross! Tiatto wasn't here for long though and Hume had more decent games than bad from memory - unlike Daka when he plays! Edited 27 December 2024 by Guy
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 He played his best football for us in a two with Kelechi. He looked dangerous. The thing is, he isnt a very good finisher. And will have a hatful of misses every season.
Claudio Fannieri Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 (edited) That opportunity in the 2nd half summed up his time here, a chance to score and he somehow managed to barely connect and somehow hit it behind him as some sort of scuffed clearance. We need to cut our losses, I really cannot see him coming good and being consistent, he will have the odd game or moments where he shows what he is capable of but sadly it’s too little and too often and for an outlay of +£20m and £70-80k a week in wages it’s just not value for money. oh and if IIRC he was on £7k a week at Salzburg and Rudkin offered a long term contract of circa 10 times that to secure his services when we could have probably got him for less than half that amount, if that isn’t negligent then what is Edited 27 December 2024 by Claudio Fannieri 4
Clever Fox Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 He's never going to get any better. He just doesn't have what's needed at this level. 2
Filbert Fireworks Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 That scuffed shot was so poor. In a game when chances are so few you have to step up in those moments and it was poor and happens again and again with him. Cut our losses. 4
Paninistickers Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 13 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Rudkin offered a long term contract of circa 10 times that to secure his services when we could have probably got him for less than half that amount, if that isn’t negligent then what is I'm gonna try to be fair and offering OTT money was our way of persuasion. Pretty blunt instrument but it worked with Fofana. And Maddison. Kante. And many others. It's the lack of business acumen that fails to see that persuasion of that sort isn't always needed. Sometimes bluffs need to be both played and called. Rudkin isn't qualified to do that. He has no track record in business.
steveb Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 (edited) worse than useless, only positive i can think of, he sometimes gets into the right place before he fluffs it Edited 27 December 2024 by steveb
Heathrow fox Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 23 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said: That opportunity in the 2nd half summed up his time here, a chance to score and he somehow managed to barely connect and somehow hit it behind him as some sort of scuffed clearance. We need to cut our losses, I really cannot see him coming good and being consistent, he will have the odd game or moments where he shows what he is capable of but sadly it’s too little and too often and for an outlay of +£20m and £70-80k a week in wages it’s just not value for money. oh and if IIRC he was on £7k a week at Salzburg and Rudkin offered a long term contract of circa 10 times that to secure his services when we could have probably got him for less than half that amount, if that isn’t negligent then what is 5 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: I'm gonna try to be fair and offering OTT money was our way of persuasion. Pretty blunt instrument but it worked with Fofana. And Maddison. Kante. And many others. It's the lack of business acumen that fails to see that persuasion of that sort isn't always needed. Sometimes bluffs need to be both played and called. Rudkin isn't qualified to do that. He has no track record in business. I think his agent would point out that 60k a week is average for a PL player.So 70/80k for a 25M signing ithat plays striker is to be expected.If you don’t like it someone else will 1
Mike Oxlong Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 (edited) Patson as the ball was coming towards him in the penalty box Edited 27 December 2024 by Mike Oxlong 4
VLC86 Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 5 hours ago, Sly said: Vardy is special and we won’t replace him unfortunately. I don’t need convincing of that, just pointing out what the club has done.
lcfc sheff Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 5 hours ago, Rossiter said: Imo we need someone up front who is good on the ball. Don't have to be fast. Just good on the ball. Think Alan Smith, Mike Newell, David Kelly (to an extent), Tony Cottee, Kevin Phillips. Steve Claridge was fairly good on the ball. Also someone who takes a chance and anticipates things. Maybe won't score 20 goals a season but will bring other players in. It would take immense pressure off the team having a striker who can win a header from a goal kick 2
Kinowe Soorie Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 Was finished here ages ago for me. The Leeds miss last season should have gotten him away from the club. Looks like a competition winner.
filthyfox Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 7 hours ago, filthyfox said: Could you put Akinbyi and Iheanacho on this spreadsheet too, please? I'm serious- i want to see if my memory is correct and Akinbyi really was that bad!
Death by Football Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 6 hours ago, Rossiter said: Imo we need someone up front who is good on the ball. Don't have to be fast. Just good on the ball. Think Alan Smith, Mike Newell, David Kelly (to an extent), Tony Cottee, Kevin Phillips. Steve Claridge was fairly good on the ball. Also someone who takes a chance and anticipates things. Maybe won't score 20 goals a season but will bring other players in. I think most, if not all of those are retired now. 😁 Although even now I think they all score that chance at Liverpool. 1
Dr The Singh Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 50 minutes ago, filthyfox said: I'm serious- i want to see if my memory is correct and Akinbyi really was that bad! He would have atleast hit the ball for the chance that Daka had.
Nick Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 It’s sad but we need to get him off the wage bill now. Offers in Jan please. 2
Dr The Singh Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 14 minutes ago, Nick said: It’s sad but we need to get him off the wage bill now. Offers in Jan please. My left over done kebab, do.
Richmondfox Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 5 hours ago, Filbert Fireworks said: That scuffed shot was so poor. In a game when chances are so few you have to step up in those moments and it was poor and happens again and again with him. Cut our losses. Also when we had a good counter attack in the second half, he gets the ball and instead of carrying it forward he stops and squares it to the running Mavadidi instead of into space, Mav has to stop and the ball gets sent back. Brain dead player.
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 27 December 2024 Posted 27 December 2024 He just doesn't offer much in any facet of forward play. He can't shoot, control a ball or even take up clever positions. He's unbelievably limited. Defenders only need to be wise to his bit of gas. But that's it. As even if he does find space he will likely miss hit / shank what comes next. Depressing player to watch.
TJB-fox Posted 28 December 2024 Posted 28 December 2024 3 hours ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said: He just doesn't offer much in any facet of forward play. He can't shoot, control a ball or even take up clever positions. He's unbelievably limited. Defenders only need to be wise to his bit of gas. But that's it. As even if he does find space he will likely miss hit / shank what comes next. Depressing player to watch. Even with his ‘pace’, it’s been very rare that we’ve seen it over the last few years. Can’t think of many occasions where we’ve seen him put it to good use.
ozleicester Posted 28 December 2024 Posted 28 December 2024 we can never know the mental state of pro footballers. Like Ward... he isnt the worst player in the league...but a couple of years of failed attempts may have destroyed any chance of success here.
Sly Posted 28 December 2024 Posted 28 December 2024 10 hours ago, filthyfox said: I'm serious- i want to see if my memory is correct and Akinbyi really was that bad! I’ve just gone and checked myself. Akinbiyi was bad.
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