Ibrahim Sangare

[Lambert09]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

He isn't. 

i think he gets some info. But he also pretends to know stuff quite obviously. 

 

He was spouting some ridiculous stuff about us (and most other clubs) last summer. 

 

Hard to work out what’s actually a true link and what’s his guess work 

[Ric Flair]

17 minutes ago, Bptiger said:

I think ur wrong about him , over the last year he does his thing but the midfielders around him have let him down , YOURI gets the ball off him and does nothing with it other than passes it back to ndidi or back to the backs , if we had a midfielder who goes forward more we would see the best off ndidi 

If I recall, Ndidi's stats are down in 2020/21 and 2021/22 compared to previous seasons. We need to free his game up again.

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Interesting news.

 

I think he should be our number 1 summer target as this position is the only one guaranteed to be in the first team because Tielemans will leave. Sangare has excellent tackling, interception and possession won in the final third stats, and we know he's a great progressive passer. Compared to Tielemans we will miss Youri's finesse and goal threat, but would have a more combative and robust midfield. His height would help defending set pieces too.

 

My fear is Liverpool go in for him though, he seems perfect for Klopp's midfield system.

 

 

 

 

Another creative player / right winger would be great too, but if we did not sign one we would still be a real threat next season, whereas if we don't sign a replacement for Youri, we will suffer.

 

 

 

...he looks more like a Ndidi replacement, than a potent #8!!!

[Grebfromgrebland]

It's probably time to sell ndidi and get someone else in like sangare of possible.

 

Ndidi has gone a bit stale and could probably do with a fresh start and we could maybe get 2 players in for the fee we get for him.

[sacreblueits442]

3 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

It's probably time to sell ndidi and get someone else in like sangare of possible.

 

Ndidi has gone a bit stale and could probably do with a fresh start and we could maybe get 2 players in for the fee we get for him.

...unless we go back to playing him how he use to play then we might as well sell!!!

Rodgers wants something else out on the pitch and Sangare gives him that, Ndidi will never properly be converted into what Rodgers wants.

[coolhandfox]

6 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

It's probably time to sell ndidi and get someone else in like sangare of possible.

 

Ndidi has gone a bit stale and could probably do with a fresh start and we could maybe get 2 players in for the fee we get for him.

People were keen to sell Maddison last summer after a average season.

 

Class is permanent, form is temporary...

 

 

[Grebfromgrebland]

6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

People were keen to sell Maddison last summer after a average season.

 

Class is permanent, form is temporary...

 

 

Yes but teams have started to press is harder and ndidi hasn't the passing ability to really combat that.

[sacreblueits442]

13 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Yes but teams have started to press is harder and ndidi hasn't the passing ability to really combat that.

...he can win it and give it easy, he doesn't need to carry our be good on the ball as Rodgers wants!!!

He is a big asset if he does what he has always done, we are playing to his weaknesses at this moment.

[Scotch]

I like the fit of this fella. He seems like he would be able to cover for Wilf as he can do what Ndidi does or play alongside KDH in a CM pair as he offers a bit more on the ball. 

[Deeg67]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...unless we go back to playing him how he use to play then we might as well sell!!!

Rodgers wants something else out on the pitch and Sangare gives him that, Ndidi will never properly be converted into what Rodgers wants.

Who are you going to sell Wilf to?  What rich team would be willing to live with his lack of ball skills?  It would have to be a counterattacking team (which is the exception rather than the rule with rich teams) because no possession-based side would have him.

 

Roma?  Maybe Spurs?  The options are limited, which means so is the price.

[sacreblueits442]

2 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Who are you going to sell Wilf to?  What rich team would be willing to live with his lack of ball skills?  It would have to be a counterattacking team (which is the exception rather than the rule with rich teams) because no possession-based side would have him.

 

Roma?  Maybe Spurs?  The options are limited, which means so is the price.

....it keeps coming back to ball skills, it really is how you chose to deploy him!!!

If like Rodgers you give him orders to get on the ball more, and attempt to aid the push forward, then you are going to have a liability, who teams will set traps for and be the trigger for them to press. So long as you have him patrolling infront of the backline, breaking up attacks and putting out fires then he is right up there as a defensive midfielder.

[volpeazzurro]

3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...unless we go back to playing him how he use to play then we might as well sell!!!

Rodgers wants something else out on the pitch and Sangare gives him that, Ndidi will never properly be converted into what Rodgers wants.

True and it could be expensive. If Rodgers had his way he'd virtually want a new team! I would have my doubts whether that team would be up to much though and he'd leave us with problems. He needs to work with and to the strengths of what he's actually got at the start of next season instead of trying to make things fit into a predetermined system which is questionable anyway. 

[Bptiger]

Well here’s a idea , if we sell cags we could move ndidi into a full time back , then we could sign the new bloke , then we would be able to move them in and out giving them a rest . EASY 

[sacreblueits442]

10 minutes ago, Bptiger said:

Well here’s a idea , if we sell cags we could move ndidi into a full time back , then we could sign the new bloke , then we would be able to move them in and out giving them a rest . EASY 

...is that you, Brendan!!!

[Bptiger]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...is that you, Brendan!!!

No he doesn’t think out side of the square 🥴👍

[Nicolo Barella]

If we sell Ndidi Sangare would be my priority signing and I think we would even be better off long term with a Dewsbury-Hall/Sangaré midfield in a 4-2-3-1 than trying to partner Dewsbury-Hall with Ndidi. 

 

If we keep Ndidi though, it makes no sense to sign Sangaré who would cost about 30 million euros. 

[Stadt]

7 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

If we sell Ndidi Sangare would be my priority signing and I think we would even be better off long term with a Dewsbury-Hall/Sangaré midfield in a 4-2-3-1 than trying to partner Dewsbury-Hall with Ndidi. 

 

If we keep Ndidi though, it makes no sense to sign Sangaré who would cost about 30 million euros. 

Mendy £50k pw - 2023

Choudhury £50k pw  - 2023

Soumare £70k pw - 2026

 

I think those are quite conservative estimates on the wage front but collectively that amounts to just shy of £20m across the lengths of all their contracts. Chuck in any low transfer fees (just to get rid of them) and we scrape another £20m.

 

It won't be easy to shift all three but by signing Sangare for say £25m over 5 years at £80k pw that comes to roughly £55m in total. We can finance the move by clearing out the deadwood and he can complement Ndidi in a way the others can't. Much easier to keep one player happy over three as well.

Edited 6 June 2022 by Stadt

[Grebfromgrebland]

I think we need genuine competition for each position.  That means getting rid of Soumare, Mendy and Choudhury and having Ndidi and Sangare as DM options to compete for a place and rotate.

[Shane]

4 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

If we sell Ndidi Sangare would be my priority signing and I think we would even be better off long term with a Dewsbury-Hall/Sangaré midfield in a 4-2-3-1 than trying to partner Dewsbury-Hall with Ndidi. 

 

If we keep Ndidi though, it makes no sense to sign Sangaré who would cost about 30 million euros. 

Really not sure about KDH in a double pivot. He’s played his best games when he’s further up the pitch and pressing high. I would prefer to keep him where he plays his best football.

 

You wouldn’t put it past him adapting to the pivot though and he did play a similar role for Luton. It could also allow Maddison to play centrally again, instead of on the wing.

 

4 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

If we keep Ndidi though, it makes no sense to sign Sangaré who would cost about 30 million euros. 

Even if we keep Ndidi it still makes sense to sign Sangare. It would be excellent succession planning, like we did with Soyuncu/Maguire. Ndidi will be in the last year of his contract next summer so signing his replacement and bedding them in, would be ideal. Obviously the €30m price tag is the issue here, but if you’re playing KDH in the pivot couldn’t you put the Tielemans money towards signing Sangare? 

[Nicolo Barella]

1 hour ago, Shane said:

Really not sure about KDH in a double pivot. He’s played his best games when he’s further up the pitch and pressing high. I would prefer to keep him where he plays his best football.

 

You wouldn’t put it past him adapting to the pivot though and he did play a similar role for Luton. It could also allow Maddison to play centrally again, instead of on the wing.

 

Even if we keep Ndidi it still makes sense to sign Sangare. It would be excellent succession planning, like we did with Soyuncu/Maguire. Ndidi will be in the last year of his contract next summer so signing his replacement and bedding them in, would be ideal. Obviously the €30m price tag is the issue here, but if you’re playing KDH in the pivot couldn’t you put the Tielemans money towards signing Sangare? 

It would be great succession planning, but the problem is the budget for this window would ideally go towards other areas considering Sangaré would be very pricey. We would at least need one more CM if we signed Sangaré because I wouldn't trust him to cover Dewsbury-Hall's position, on top of a centre back and RW. 

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ibrahim-sangare-transfer-leicester-psv-7174164

 

 

 

Why PSV star 'better on one leg than Leicester City's midfield' could be perfect summer transfer

ByJordan Blackwell
06:00, 7 JUN 2022
 

To say “Ibrahim Sangare is better on one leg than Leicester’s midfield,” as former PSV Eindhoven manager Aad de Mos did, is an exaggeration. But, the Ivorian definitely has all of the attributes required to significantly strengthen City’s options in the centre of the park.

Of all of the players City have so far been linked with in midfield as part of their shake-up of the squad this summer, Sangare is the best fit. If they were able to pull off a deal, it would be a coup for City.

As De Mos continued: “He is extraordinary. This season, he has been the king of PSV. You miss Sangere when he’s not playing. He isn’t just suitable for Leicester, he can easily keep up at an even higher club. He can easily play at Tottenham and certainly at Arsenal.”

 

Getting a midfield transfer right is important for City. While a new centre-back and a new right-sided winger are also among the priorities this summer, there is more work to be done in City’s midfield than anywhere else.

City manager Brendan Rodgers wants "at least" two new players in there, and so there is scope for three new recruits, especially if Youri Tielemans is sold. Such a revamp needs to go well, otherwise City will be stuck in the same position they were this season, where the manager only trusts a few of his options in the midfield, and the burden on them to keep producing and keep running game after game becomes too large, their performances suffering as a result.

But Sangare, on paper, would be a big hit. Rodgers wants a box-to-box midfielder who is an all-rounder, and Sangare is certainly that. Starting off with the defensive attributes, he is an exceptional ball-winner. His tally of 169 tackles and interceptions was the best of any player in the Eredivisie this season, despite only starting 26 of 34 matches.

In possession, he ranks highly for carrying the ball forward, dribble success rate, progressive passing, and ball retention. This season, he had his most effective campaign at the very top end of the pitch too, with four goals and four assists in all competitions.

The big bonus for City is the 24-year-old’s physicality. Standing at 6ft 3in, Sangare would significantly aid the club’s bid to improve their defending at corners, with height, aerial success rate, aggression, and determination at set-pieces all under consideration in nearly every deal City do this summer.

Sangare’s characteristics sound similar to perhaps what City were expecting of Boubakary Soumare, but rather than hope the Frenchman adapts more quickly in a second season at the King Power Stadium, it seems patience has run thin enough for an alternative to be sought out. The apparent price-tag for Sangare stands at around £30m. For his all-around qualities, that is not too expensive. It is the upper limit of what City would spend on a player, but would not be dismissed out of hand for being too pricey.

The tricky part would be convincing him to join the club over the elite sides also tracking him. With his qualities, there are plenty of teams he would improve.

[UHDrive]

On 05/06/2022 at 23:42, sacreblueits442 said:

...unless we go back to playing him how he use to play then we might as well sell!!!

Rodgers wants something else out on the pitch and Sangare gives him that, Ndidi will never properly be converted into what Rodgers wants.

There's an irony here in that he was always the only solo pivot in a 4141 system. Even before covid BR was changing game tactics between 1/2 pivots and throwing mendy into a more right/advanced dm role on occasions. 2 pivots isn't Ndidi's forte and he hasn't been right ever since.

[An Away Move]

Sangare was mustard against us. He really stood out. Would be delighted if we got him. Their manager sounds like Puel attempting to drive the price up on Fofana. 

[AKCJ]

3 minutes ago, An Away Move said:

Sangare was mustard against us. He really stood out. Would be delighted if we got him. Their manager sounds like Puel attempting to drive the price up on Fofana. 

 

If we want him then I think we have to put the money on the table early doors. Not being in Europe is a huge negative when trying to sign players like him on a small(ish) budget.

 

We're not going to pay stupid wages like Villa will. Getting these players through the door will only happen if we focus our efforts on them to convince these players we're desperate for them to sign. Pissing around will get us nowhere.

[dbtcity]