Popular Post SafewayFox Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 19 July 2022 16 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Totally agree. I think he's been wasted by management. Sometimes if you areclabded with an employee thatvisntcquite to your taste, you decide to max out what talent there is. I know many on here don't rate him, but compared to equivalent benches.; those clown twin brothers at Newcastle gayle at Newcastle, a shot it noble at West ham, a shot it Delph at Everton, any number of exotic oddballs at Villa (Luiz? Trezquet?).....he's (at least) a notch above all them. Hamza is not at the required standard for where we’ve recently been or where aspire to be. He is extremely limited on the ball, lacks positional sense and hasn’t shown any evidence of kicking on/maturing. Luiz at Villa is a much more rounded CM mate. 13 1
Claudio Fannieri Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 Middlesbrough have shown an interest in Hamza and Iversen wouldn’t be surprised to see one or both end up there now they have the Djed Spence money
Guest Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 I'm sure I've posted this pretty much verbatim before so apologies in advance but he's just not really good enough in any position at this level. Not got the positional sense or discipline to play as a holding midfielder nor the technical ability or creativity to play further forward. He's also got a habit of standing the other side of his marker rather than showing for the pass so if you think we're pedestrian at working the ball forwards it'd be much worse with him involved. Not his fault we gave him an absurd contract and I'm sure he'll end up having a perfectly good career somewhere but big hair and big tackles do not a top-half Premier League footballer make. 4
drofmor55 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, SafewayFox said: Hamza is not at the required standard for where we’ve recently been or where aspire to be. He is extremely limited on the ball, lacks positional sense and hasn’t shown any evidence of kicking on/maturing. Luiz at Villa is a much more rounded CM mate. Think we need more of a John McGinn type player than a Douglas Luiz...fed up of us being bullied out of games..when Ndidi is on it he is very good but we missed him badly at the end of last season..a fired up Hamza should be able to do this destructive role but he needs to get a nasty side to him 2
ScrumpyJack Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, SafewayFox said: Hamza is not at the required standard for where we’ve recently been or where aspire to be. He is extremely limited on the ball, lacks positional sense and hasn’t shown any evidence of kicking on/maturing. Luiz at Villa is a much more rounded CM mate. Sad that after we crash and burn next season he’ll be exactly our standard 1
Phenom Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 (edited) We can’t keep a footballer who’s scared to have the ball passed to him. Edited 19 July 2022 by Phenom
Bayfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Middlesbrough have shown an interest in Hamza and Iversen wouldn’t be surprised to see one or both end up there now they have the Djed Spence money Probably only 1 as boro have juat taken steffan on loan from man city.
fox_up_north Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 I want to keep Hamza and see him do well cause he's one of ours but, he isn't capable at the level we want to play and he should get proper minutes. Take the money and wish him all the best.
sacreblueits442 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 2 hours ago, Guest said: I'm sure I've posted this pretty much verbatim before so apologies in advance but he's just not really good enough in any position at this level. Not got the positional sense or discipline to play as a holding midfielder nor the technical ability or creativity to play further forward. He's also got a habit of standing the other side of his marker rather than showing for the pass so if you think we're pedestrian at working the ball forwards it'd be much worse with him involved. Not his fault we gave him an absurd contract and I'm sure he'll end up having a perfectly good career somewhere but big hair and big tackles do not a top-half Premier League footballer make. ...when it comes down to it, the reality is he needs to learn to read the game!!! His ability to get across to eliminate danger is good but he needs to be ahead of the play in order to do so. He started his last game well and managed to put in a big and well-timed tackle to stop an attacker from going through. You will have to sit him down with the coaching staff and get him to understand the game and how decisions taken effects the game. Getting him out there on the pitch is not going to help as he will just keep repeating bad practices. He has to start looking at the game from a technical aspect, as opposed to someone who goes out on the pitch and runs around trying to affect the game.
fuchsntf Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...when it comes down to it, the reality is he needs to learn to read the game!!! His ability to get across to eliminate danger is good but he needs to be ahead of the play in order to do so. He started his last game well and managed to put in a big and well-timed tackle to stop an attacker from going through. You will have to sit him down with the coaching staff and get him to understand the game and how decisions taken effects the game. Getting him out there on the pitch is not going to help as he will just keep repeating bad practices. He has to start looking at the game from a technical aspect, as opposed to someone who goes out on the pitch and runs around trying to affect the game. If our Coaches cant see that......thats a few more staff & squad Money we can save..!! In fact your Member name,should be shouted out everyweek, on issues the Coaching staff Dont seem to be getting through... Sacrebleu..! ils semblent incapables de faire passer que se soit, ...ou Le jouer ne peut comprendre que Le Dothraki...
drofmor55 Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 12 hours ago, SafewayFox said: Hamza is not at the required standard for where we’ve recently been or where aspire to be. He is extremely limited on the ball, lacks positional sense and hasn’t shown any evidence of kicking on/maturing. Luiz at Villa is a much more rounded CM mate. Agree re no evidence of kicking on/maturing, that why i think he needs s manager whos prepared to kick him up the backside as he just seems to want to coast through his career. As for limited on the ball, we need someone with a bit of spite who can chase,tackle and win the ball, which he can do well. Reminds me of the story Robbie Savage tells about himself where 5 minutes before half time he received a pass from Gerry Taggart and then tried to beat an opposition player with a bit of flair that he never possessed. Duly lost the ball and from that the opposition went on and scored. He went down the tunnel at half time expecting the mother of all bollockings from Martin ONeil but instead O'Neil turned on Taggart "How many times have i told you do not f~king pass the ball to Savage"
LCCFox96 Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 I feel Chris Wilder and the systems he plays would be a great fit for Hamza. Good motivator and man manager who operates with dynamic, energetic systems where the sum of the parts is greater than the individual player. If they offered a fee we will hopefully take it. Whether Hamza fancies a pay cut on the final year of his deal and relocating to Middlesbrough is another matter entirely.
Lesta2014 Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Can’t see him leaving with his wage until his contracts done.
Devonfox1884 Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Could we not just let him go on a free, and have the ‘buying’ club give him the difference in what they’re paying him officially and what he’s on for the final year of his contract here as a signing on fee? E.g. WBA offer Hamza £30k p/w, he’s on 60k p/w here, so the difference is £30k. WBA pay Hamza approx. £30k x 52 = £1.56m to cover the loss in earnings in the final year of his contract here. I reckon they’d be willing to do that if there was no fee, and it gets the entirety of his wage off our wage bill immediately.
JamesfromlondonLCFC Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 His agent wants Knighting. How the **** is he on 60k 😂
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 1 minute ago, JamesfromlondonLCFC said: His agent wants Knighting. How the **** is he on 60k 😂 It’s a fookin disgrace mate, it really is
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 On 19/07/2022 at 20:51, SafewayFox said: Hamza is not at the required standard for where we’ve recently been or where aspire to be. He is extremely limited on the ball, lacks positional sense and hasn’t shown any evidence of kicking on/maturing. Luiz at Villa is a much more rounded CM mate. Yes but he's won an F. A cup medal though.
Lesterlad Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 I read that he is in 60grand a week no wonder no one wants him. Take a zero off and more realistic
lcfc sheff Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 1 minute ago, Lesterlad said: I read that he is in 60grand a week no wonder no one wants him. Take a zero off and more realistic This is the problem, if you get rid of the likes of kasper, Vestergaard, Bertrand and hamza that’s 320,000 a week! if you look into the European market you can get 4,5 or even 6 better players all for those wages! 4
Lesterlad Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 2 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: This is the problem, if you get rid of the likes of kasper, Vestergaard, Bertrand and hamza that’s 320,000 a week! if you look into the European market you can get 4,5 or even 6 better players all for those wages! Kaspers wages are almost acceptable but the other 3 are disgusting. Hamza is paid way over what he is worth.
lcfc sheff Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 13 minutes ago, Lesterlad said: Kaspers wages are almost acceptable but the other 3 are disgusting. Hamza is paid way over what he is worth. In a sentimental way yes, but business wise we can get a younger better goalie on less money. I think it’s time he went as well. But yes the other 3 is just terrible business 1
mozartfox Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 24 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: In a sentimental way yes, but business wise we can get a younger better goalie on less money. I think it’s time he went as well. But yes the other 3 is just terrible business We definitely do not need Ward. Surely he is looking for regular football due to the World cup?
ARM1968 Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 Hamza is a good lad and a reasonable player. He would do a great job for a newly promoted side or those scrapping to get out of the Championship. He is committed 🤣. He has a good engine. Can pass. Can tackle. Isn’t going to be a target for the top 6 or Europes big boys. We need players who will be.
lcfc sheff Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 5 minutes ago, mozartfox said: We definitely do not need Ward. Surely he is looking for regular football due to the World cup? On Reflection a weird signing, never gonna be no.1 is he?
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