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1 minute ago, majaco said:

You must be an itk of how he thinks.

Not really, its a well known fact that both Barnes and Hamza are out as often as humanly possible. 

 

Explains why Barnes seems to be injured far more frequently and Hamza is always missing through 'illness'. 

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1 minute ago, Father Ted said:

More appearances in the last 6 weeks at Turkey Cafe than he’s made for us in pre season probably suggests I’m right 👍

he doesn't get picked for the Turkey cafe.  He chooses to go there.

 

I can't recall a game he's played where he hasn't put in a shift.   Rodgers doesn't like him, doesn't pick him so he hasn't developed.  Hopefully, he will move on and do well somewhere else.  

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4 minutes ago, majaco said:

he doesn't get picked for the Turkey cafe.  He chooses to go there.

 

I can't recall a game he's played where he hasn't put in a shift.   Rodgers doesn't like him, doesn't pick him so he hasn't developed.  Hopefully, he will move on and do well somewhere else.  

Ok Hamza

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I can't hold it against him really. Not his fault he's not good enough for us, nor that we decided to give him a contract that's not only wildly disproportionate to his ability but will also price him out of loan or permanent moves to all but the wealthiest Championship teams, who can probably do better anyway.

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6 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

The party was long ago and he wasn’t the only one. It’s best he gets playing time elsewhere but I have no motivation for personal attacks.

Firstly, if you thought my post at all attacked you…far from it so apologies if you felt that way.

 

But the party was one of MANY things that Hamza seems to be involved with which you’d not say is the definition of ultra professional.

 

Hence why I said you can’t blame Rodgers for his lack of game time/enthusiasm.

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13 minutes ago, OriginalRobboFOX said:

Going Watford…. 

 

Source?

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At this point the club just has to get these fringe players moved on. Whatever it takes. Time is ticking and we’re in a jam. Gotta make moves with some urgency or we become paralysed. Goodbye Hamsa hope you do well wherever you go.

Posted
1 hour ago, Dames said:

Not really, its a well known fact that both Barnes and Hamza are out as often as humanly possible. 

 

Explains why Barnes seems to be injured far more frequently and Hamza is always missing through 'illness'. 

I’ve always assumed that ‘illness’ actually means an STD with Hamza, not sure why.

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Just now, deep blue said:

I asked on one thread, some time ago, if anyone could name a game where Hamza had let us down.  Not one reply.  He wouldn't be viewed as being ovepaid if he'd been given more pitch time, and that's down to Rodgers. How many games have we seen over the last 2 years when we desperately needed someone on with a bit more bite and fight in midfield?  I think he's been shunned and underused by Rodgers, and he's not the only squad member to suffer that.

Maybe it's his 'attitude'. 

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1 minute ago, deep blue said:

I asked on one thread, some time ago, if anyone could name a game where Hamza had let us down.  Not one reply.  He wouldn't be viewed as being ovepaid if he'd been given more pitch time, and that's down to Rodgers. How many games have we seen over the last 2 years when we desperately needed someone on with a bit more bite and fight in midfield?  I think he's been shunned and underused by Rodgers, and he's not the only squad member to suffer that.

He was praised highly for the games he played in last season. 

 

I agree with much of what you posted.  I don't have a huge problem with Rodgers not using him;  managers have to be decisive.

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3 hours ago, deep blue said:

I asked on one thread, some time ago, if anyone could name a game where Hamza had let us down.  Not one reply.  He wouldn't be viewed as being ovepaid if he'd been given more pitch time, and that's down to Rodgers. How many games have we seen over the last 2 years when we desperately needed someone on with a bit more bite and fight in midfield?  I think he's been shunned and underused by Rodgers, and he's not the only squad member to suffer that.

Easy….the last game of the season against United…their first goal was a penalty that started with his awful first touch to give the ball away deep in our own half.

 

Hamza is an extremely limited player and if he gets minutes and has a senior CB next to him shouting orders he could end up being a top end Championship CB/DM.

 

I watch Rodgers all the time and how much he has to constantly talk to Hamza was the same level as Gray and think it’s fair to say he hasn’t pulled up trees since he left?

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17 minutes ago, deep blue said:

I asked on one thread, some time ago, if anyone could name a game where Hamza had let us down.  Not one reply.  He wouldn't be viewed as being ovepaid if he'd been given more pitch time, and that's down to Rodgers. How many games have we seen over the last 2 years when we desperately needed someone on with a bit more bite and fight in midfield?  I think he's been shunned and underused by Rodgers, and he's not the only squad member to suffer that.

1 min 3 secs or thereabouts. Quite significant 

 

https://youtu.be/pReRHI7jmuY

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Think we home in on some players a bit relentlessly to be honest. Hamza is never going to set the world alight, but he might carry the torch so someone else can. He has always been quite honest and worked hard on the pitch from what I have seen. 
 

it is  true that he likely will never hit the heights we all think we deserve now, but he could do a good job for someone and I hope he does. 

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1 hour ago, deep blue said:

I asked on one thread, some time ago, if anyone could name a game where Hamza had let us down.  Not one reply.  He wouldn't be viewed as being ovepaid if he'd been given more pitch time, and that's down to Rodgers. How many games have we seen over the last 2 years when we desperately needed someone on with a bit more bite and fight in midfield?  I think he's been shunned and underused by Rodgers, and he's not the only squad member to suffer that.

it’s not so much as he lets us down through mistakes but just that he is too limited on the ball for how we play.  The same can be said about wilf but the fact he regains possession so much makes up for it. (or it used to) 

 

Hamza never really became the ndidi type player we thought he could and when we used him, we tried him in more ball playing areas, which he’s just not good enough at. 

 

Put him in a midfield 3 in the championship where his sole job is to win the ball and lay it off and he will do fine. 

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3 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

Firstly, if you thought my post at all attacked you…far from it so apologies if you felt that way.

 

But the party was one of MANY things that Hamza seems to be involved with which you’d not say is the definition of ultra professional.

 

Hence why I said you can’t blame Rodgers for his lack of game time/enthusiasm.

Nah. I meant personal attacks against him. I don’t care about his personal life. It’s best he moves on, gets game time and gets off the wage bill. He’s obviously rich but I can’t imagine this is how he wanted his career to progress after getting some initial support and game time.

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