FA Cup 5th Round v Blackburn Rovers - 28/2/23, 19:30

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, SecretPro said:

Again, not really getting the context are you? It was in Jest, I don't actually ever not want to win trophies. Its a commentary on the fact that damage has already been done because for too many 'fans' have given 'credit in the bank' for far to long and as a result lots of the things that made this club brilliant are slowly draining away. 

 

If you actively want to watch this week in week out, suffer relegation, financial issues etc etc then you're a 'proper weirdo fan' in my book. 

 

Some people have short memories - we nearly disappeared as a club once you know. My comments amount to this: I'd rather long term stability, ambition and success than the current trajectory with another FA Cup thrown in. I'm not into short termism.

 

I might reconsider that view if we hadn't ever won the FA Cup, because in my eyes it's the most important and prestigious cup. But we have won it, and recently, so in my opinion what matters at this stage is the safety and security of the club. Not a trophy. 

There’s no “context” to it. You’re creating an extremely bizarre and nonsensical false dichotomy that winning the FA Cup means financial problems and relegation and that not winning the FA Cup doesn’t when the reality is it’s not going to make any difference to that side of things, it’s just a choice of winning the cup or not, which should be a no brainier.

 

You very specifically did say even though it was partly in jest when you consider it you don’t want us to win the cup though…. Now you’re back peddling and saying it was fully in jest and you don’t ever want to not win trophies again….

[Aus Fox]

7 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Again, not really getting the context are you? It was in Jest, I don't actually ever not want to win trophies. Its a commentary on the fact that damage has already been done because for too many 'fans' have given 'credit in the bank' for far to long and as a result lots of the things that made this club brilliant are slowly draining away. 

 

If you actively want to watch this week in week out, suffer relegation, financial issues etc etc then you're a 'proper weirdo fan' in my book. 

 

Some people have short memories - we nearly disappeared as a club once you know. My comments amount to this: I'd rather long term stability, ambition and success than the current trajectory with another FA Cup thrown in. I'm not into short termism.

 

I might reconsider that view if we hadn't ever won the FA Cup, because in my eyes it's the most important and prestigious cup. But we have won it, and recently, so in my opinion what matters at this stage is the safety and security of the club. Not a trophy. 

But you’re not talking facts, there is no context, just a scenario that you’ve made up in your own head.

[SecretPro]

53 minutes ago, Sampson said:

There’s no “context” to it. You’re creating an extremely bizarre and nonsensical false dichotomy that winning the FA Cup means financial problems and relegation and that not winning the FA Cup doesn’t when the reality is it’s not going to make any difference to that side of things, it’s just a choice of winning the cup or not, which should be a no brainier.

 

You very specifically did say even though it was partly in jest when you consider it you don’t want us to win the cup though…. Now you’re back peddling and saying it was fully in jest and you don’t ever want to not win trophies again….

So you are denying that a large part of the fan base and likely the club internally have not given Brendan extensive credit in the bank for the last FA Cup win? I've seen it with my own eyes many times on here, less lately because surely only deluded people think Brendan is good for the club at this point. You've not noticed the decline in the football, the loss of personality, the lack of team spirit, the growing disconnect between fans and club? 

 

There are people in this very thread saying that if we won the FA Cup again they would happily put up with Brendan, put up with him taking a dump on the club and put up with being relegated? And I'm the mad one? Mental.

 

I'm clearly saying that the way I see it I would not want to buy any further decline of this club with an FA Cup win. If an FA Cup win puts more credit in the bank and the trajectory continues downhill, that's not a good trade. I'd rather just stop the rot at source and focus on getting things right with the club again, especially now we have recently won the league and the FA Cup. 

Edited 25 February 2023 by SecretPro

[Mr Weller 2]

I would love us to win the FA Cup again. So would the vast majority of our fans. It wouldn’t be at the expense of anything-quite the reverse in fact.

[volpeazzurro]

50 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

I would love us to win the FA Cup again. So would the vast majority of our fans. It wouldn’t be at the expense of anything-quite the reverse in fact.

It would be a Wiganesque hollow victory if we got relegated, what's the point? It's an 'icing on the cake' trophy, not the be all and end all, it's a brief romantic interlude and won't in any way help our future.

 

To watch yet another dull game and suddenly manage to scrape a win due to an out of the blue wonder goal like the last time doesn't suddenly paper over the last two years of boredom and deterioration. 

[Bptiger]

Would rather stay up than win the FA cup 

[CrazyKopCorner]

It's a great chance for Ricardo to play a full 75 minutes or so 

 

I'm looking forward it already 

 

COYB 

[Raj]

3 hours ago, Bptiger said:

Would rather stay up than win the FA cup 

I'd rather achieve both.

[Dames]

3 hours ago, Bptiger said:

Would rather stay up than win the FA cup 

 

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, Bptiger said:

Would rather stay up than win the FA cup 

Depends whether staying up means we will get our act together or if its just a delay to the inevitable. Nobody has a crystal ball but teams who start to scrap with relegation tend to succumb eventually and I fear that's us if we aren't very organised.

[Bptiger]

16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Depends whether staying up means we will get our act together or if its just a delay to the inevitable. Nobody has a crystal ball but teams who start to scrap with relegation tend to succumb eventually and I fear that's us if we aren't very organised.

But if we stay up and sack Rodgers and invest in some midfielders who can control the football and now how to go forward and pass to a team mate I think we would be back on track . Because we have players who can’t protect the ball or pass to a team mate that’s why we are we’re we are 

[FLAN]

Most of us couldn’t “experience” the last one. So for me we need to go all out to win it. Highly unlikely I know 

[Chelmofox]

Need to get a grip here. Can only win this cup if we don’t play another PL team. As soon as we get a top club Brendan goes full on respect mode and we stand no chance. 

[Fox92]

Chance to get into the quarter finals so the game has to be taken seriously. Will be gutted if we lose but don’t think we will. Rodgers performance in both domestic trophies for us has been excellent. Up the Foxes and let’s get to Wembley again.

[Fox92]

14 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Need to get a grip here. Can only win this cup if we don’t play another PL team. As soon as we get a top club Brendan goes full on respect mode and we stand no chance. 

And yet we were really attacking and open at Old Trafford last week but people said it cost us the game. So which one is it? 

[HybridFox]

15 hours ago, Koke said:

 

Could have done a Lineker and sh** on the pitch

[justfoxes]

2 hours ago, Dames said:

 

Not at Bloody all we can achieve both !

[Hales]

Play a strong team, its a trophy!

Play Ricardo and also Mendy, Praet, Tete etc need game time. You cannot expect these guys to just pop in and out of the team and be up to speed and momentum and confident. 

As for Ward, pop him in the bin!

[Chelmofox]

29 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

And yet we were really attacking and open at Old Trafford last week but people said it cost us the game. So which one is it? 

Anyone who said that needs their head checked. We were excellent in the first half and Ten Hag won the second through a smart tactical change.  It at least we were creative and gave it a go.  The Arsenal game we went back to pure fear mode and it was a clear tactical decision to stifle them. 

[daddylonglegs]

Already looking forward to Grimsby at home in the next round.

[Happy Fox]

FA Cup is the only highlight of our drab season so far so I want us to progress, maybe might help us with our league form? 

[weller54]

3-2 defeat.

They're on a good run and confident.

[jerry]

10 hours ago, Bptiger said:

Would rather stay up than win the FA cup 

I wouldn't if it meant having to sit and watch the absolute dross that was dished up yesterday for another season. Have we forgotten that attending a match used to be for entertainment ? Then again I'm an old fossil who remembers back to the sixties when there was a more balanced view of life.

[jerry]

4 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Anyone who said that needs their head checked. We were excellent in the first half and Ten Hag won the second through a smart tactical change.  It at least we were creative and gave it a go.  The Arsenal game we went back to pure fear mode and it was a clear tactical decision to stifle them. 

Rodgers shown up tactically in both matches and out thought.

[Pliskin]

6 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Depends whether staying up means we will get our act together or if it’s just a delay to the inevitable. Nobody has a crystal ball but teams who start to scrap with relegation tend to succumb eventually and I fear that's us if we aren't very organised.

Im with you, Ric, this is my fear. We have a number of players running out their contracts, and seemingly have no major funds to replace them. 
 

We’re going to lose a lot of players and have no funds coming in for them. I fear the writing is on the wall, we’ve seen many teams without the infrastructure try to breach Europe and eventually over extend themselves and self implode…..

 

Things don’t look good long term regardless….