King Power IN or OUT

[Jattdogg]

1 hour ago, Onions said:

53% want them to sell….. 

 

To who? Do people think there are unlimited billionaires lining up to buy football clubs? 😳

Someone mentioned whoever fails in the utd bid

[MPH]

2 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Surely they'll just follow the Man City blueprint and find some loopholes to get round FFP. And if they get pulled up on it they'll just appeal to CAS and get off.

 

like I said, with every loophole discovered, it’s usually closed

[MPH]

2 hours ago, eblair said:

It’s not. City took piss and still are out of FFP. Just need Saudi state to set up some fictitious gambling companies (lololol) and pay Newcastle for advertising. It’s really easy and City set precedent of beating uefa already and will do same to prem

 

man city are currently under investigation. 

[westernpark]

5 hours ago, Monk said:

Wow. New levels of delusion. And I absolutely love Nigel. But you’re saying Vichai was a passenger in the whole thing？？

Yes. 
Thanks to Vichai we now have Seagrave. He was certainly more proactive than Aiyawatt was, but Pearson built the back room staff and ethos that could compete. The very fact that they felt buying the club with Sousa rather him in charge, is indicative of King Power’s football knowledge. 
I will acknowledge that we’re lucky to have our owners in some circumstances.

[Dan]

7 hours ago, Monk said:

The owners have transformed our club from what was almost an eternity of mediocrity into a team that’s won trophies and played in Europe, built out the infrastructure at the club. 
 

The first minute things don’t go our way we turn on them. Many things have gone wrong over the past couple of years, but we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. We speculate about whats going on but the reality is that you don’t have a clue. 
 

be careful what you wish for. 

You're missing a very big part of the story though unfortunately. People need to disassociate Top and Vichai. I can't really aim these things at Vichai - nor did I think he would've let it get this bad, but Top is clueless, we're in absolute freefall under him.

 

Be careful what you wish for. Always my favourite. The minute I read that one I almost know the opposite will be true.

[Happy Fox]

For me, the sooner Top sells the better, unless they show they have a clear plan for the future of the club.

 

What’s the plan? Top 6 finish in the championship.

 

Vichai had a dream, Top is running a shit show.

[eblair]

51 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

man city are currently under investigation. 

A literal country against the premier league (where two of the constituent members are Newcastle and City)

 

City win hands down

[Dan]

7 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

This is the thing I don’t understand about some of our fan base. They actually look afar at other clubs with perceived poor ownership and think oh lucky that isn’t us.

 

THAT IS US! 
 

Just like them we have a poor owner. How can so many not see that as if this guy is doing “good things” for us.

Peoples standards / expectations for ownership is staggeringly low and I mean of football in general here rather than just our fans. They think that we're genuinely fortunate to have not gone under.

[Number 6]

I'd hope it would be enough of a wake up for some better decision making to start happening. They've got things wrong but there are some really bad owners out there and I think we're vulnerable to that right now.

[Muzzy Elliot]

No! 
 

Us, Leicester blimin City, won the Premier League thanks to these guys!! They just need to learn from their mistakes.

 

Madness.

Edited 16 May 2023 by Muzzy Elliot

[lcfc sheff]

The shell stadium has a good ring to it 😏

[Monk]

1 hour ago, westernpark said:

Yes. 
Thanks to Vichai we now have Seagrave. He was certainly more proactive than Aiyawatt was, but Pearson built the back room staff and ethos that could compete. The very fact that they felt buying the club with Sousa rather him in charge, is indicative of King Power’s football knowledge. 
I will acknowledge that we’re lucky to have our owners in some circumstances.

Since when has there been a massive club buy out and the existing manager has been part of their long terms plans apart from perhaps when the Glazers bought United? 
 

There are many clubs in the top two divisions who have good reason to loath their owners and I just think despite the current circumstances we are not one of them. 

[Monk]

58 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

You're missing a very big part of the story though unfortunately. People need to disassociate Top and Vichai. I can't really aim these things at Vichai - nor did I think he would've let it get this bad, but Top is clueless, we're in absolute freefall under him.

 

Be careful what you wish for. Always my favourite. The minute I read that one I almost know the opposite will be true.

Top, who yes has presided over the current run of form but also over the period with an FA cup win and 2 5th placed finishes?

 

Be careful what you wish for - seem to remember multiple times in our past where our fans have wanted change and we’ve ended up with something much much worse. 

[Vestan Pance]

I don't see how things will change if they haven't in the last 18 months. How Top didn't see this coming is beyond me. Whelan and Rudkin will certainly have seen what was on the horizon but turkeys don't vote for Christmas, if Top replaces them and makes some sort of commitment to bring the budget under control then he should get a second go at it, but I won't hold my breath.

[westernpark]

50 minutes ago, Monk said:

Since when has there been a massive club buy out and the existing manager has been part of their long terms plans apart from perhaps when the Glazers bought United? 
 

There are many clubs in the top two divisions who have good reason to loath their owners and I just think despite the current circumstances we are not one of them. 

Yes like I said I don’t loathe our ownership group. But I’m not sycophantic towards them. 

I think that’s false  equivalence, because in this case they had to go scurrying back to Pearson 18 months or so later, a unique circumstance that the most important person in the club’s future was already present.

[STUHILL]

I would like a clearer picture of the finances, before voting to get rid of him. 

 

I just hope that he takes this relegation very personally, and does whatever it takes over the summer to try put things right. 

 

 

[ARM1968]

3 hours ago, Monk said:

Top, who yes has presided over the current run of form but also over the period with an FA cup win and 2 5th placed finishes?

 

Be careful what you wish for - seem to remember multiple times in our past where our fans have wanted change and we’ve ended up with something much much worse. 

Presiding over two 5th place finishes IS the reason we are where we are. The 2nd ‘failure’ has brought us here. I said it at the time, we would decline and fall apart. We have. Our ambition and trajectory would only have been sustained by CL qualification. The FA Cup was brilliant but ultimately means little now. It doesn’t attract players. CL qualification does. 
 

Add in poor purchases. Stupid contracts etc. persisting with a very poor manager. Disaster. 

[Sly]

Does Seagrave sit on the Football club asset book, or is it elsewhere? 
 

Just wondering if they’d look to break us up and potentially retain that as an asset. 

[Dahnsouff]

More likely to sell us if we stay up

[justfoxes]

I was talking to some of the lads last night one said if the owner decides to sell up could our fairytale story of winning the league entice a billionaire to buy into the dream and make us a bigger club ?

 

I responded to that comment as Fuch I’ll have what you’re drinking pal !!🤣😂🤣

[LCFCCHRIS]

It’s sad to go down but I’d take that a million times over having some Saudi human rights abusers as our owners… 

It’s embarrassing to see so many wanting rid of Top after one relegation. Another point,  imagine being the likes of Everton doing F all year after year but just surviving in the Prem. sounds sh*t to me. 
 

A prem and an FA cup are memories to last a lifetime. More than most EPL team fans can even dream of. 

[Sly]

I didn't really know where to put this, so opted for this thread.

 

I'm locked away in the North West night, bored in a hotel room. I can barely get phone signal! Anyway, enough about my plight.

 

On the King Ownership thing and us being worse under Top ... just some points per game info for the league only, curtsey of 11v11

 

Vichai as Chairman (Championship) - 154 games - 258 points - Average of 1.67 points per game.

Vichai as Chairman (Premiership) - 162 games - 226 points - Average of 1.39 points per game. 

Top as Chairman (Premiership) - 178 games - 249 points - Average of 1.39 points per game.

 

Bizarre coincidence maybe that they're identical?

 

An average of 1.39 points per game gets you 53ish points over the season. 

 

Based on that we'd have been:

 

22/23 - We'd be 10th now with 53ish points

21/22 - 8th - Which is where we finished.

20/21 - 12th - We finished 5th

19/20 - 11th - We finished 5th

18/19 - 9th - This is where we finished

17/18 - 8th - We finished 9th

16/17 - 8th - We finished 12th

15/16 - 9th - We finished 1st

14/15 - 9th - We finished 14th

 

Our form over the duration of our Premier League stay has us as a mid table team basically on average. 

 

Now when you consider the nine years we've had.

 

Would you rather have been treading water in mid table, or the highs of success and the inevitable crash and burn in two weeks time that awaits us? 

[Mark_w]

20 hours ago, Foxxed said:

Vichai had a vision and Pearson and co executed it.

 

Top's only vision was obeying Brendan's ego.

 

Either Top needs to become active or employ a decent DOF.

 

If he can't do either then he should look to sell.

Vichai didn't have a vision that Pearson and co executed. Pearson and his staff had a vision that Vichai enabled them to execute. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that or that that takes anything away from Vichai, that's just what happened.

When Vichai came in we appointed Sven-Goran Eriksen and bought anyone who Sven had heard of in the Championship. When Nigel came in we got rid of the average high earners and built the side we did (although there were very strong reasons to believe that at one point we tried to attract Harry f'n Redknapp while Nigel was still in the job, and later he was sacked and reinstated before the Great Escape). Ranieri made tactical adjustments to the squad that we had built and achieved something amazing with it, but long term there was no plan with Ranieri. And then we went Shakespeare with a view to trying to play the way we did under Nigel (but sacked him after 8 games the season after he kept us up so clearly no plan there), before u-turning stylistically with the appointment of Puel. There's nothing consistent about the approach of the managers Vichai appointed.

No football owner has a vision for a football club that's actually going to achieve anything, a new owner absolutely won't fix a thing, it could make it worse - but it won't solve our problems. We need a Medical, Coaching, Recruitment & Management team that are all pulling in the same direction. Preferably with Nigel Pearson being the one both directing and managing them.

Edited 17 May 2023 by Mark_w

[lifted*fox]

some people have lost their tiny minds  

 

acting like we're the first club to ever be relegated 

 

BuT wE'Re iN SeRioUs FiNAnCiaL TrOuBlE

 

please. so OTT. we've had a mental decade and won more than most clubs could aspire to win in their entire existence. 

 

we go down, we regroup and go again. the world keeps turning. we might go straight back up, it might take a few years - so what? 

 

that's football folks. if it's such a shock to you, maybe try a different sport.

 

given KP's overall track record I'd rather give them the opportunity to set things right than bitch out on them at the first sign of trouble. 

 

I swear some of you would sell out your own mother at the first sign of her shitting the bed. 

[Foxxed]

57 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

Vichai didn't have a vision that Pearson and co executed. Pearson and his staff had a vision that Vichai enabled them to execute. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that or that that takes anything away from Vichai, that's just what happened.

When Vichai came in we appointed Sven-Goran Eriksen and bought anyone who Sven had heard of in the Championship. When Nigel came in we got rid of the average high earners and built the side we did (although there were very strong reasons to believe that at one point we tried to attract Harry f'n Redknapp while Nigel was still in the job, and later he was sacked and reinstated before the Great Escape). Ranieri made tactical adjustments to the squad that we had built and achieved something amazing with it, but long term there was no plan with Ranieri. And then we went Shakespeare with a view to trying to play the way we did under Nigel (but sacked him after 8 games the season after he kept us up so clearly no plan there), before u-turning stylistically with the appointment of Puel. There's nothing consistent about the approach of the manager's Vichai appointed.

No football owner has a vision for a football club that's actually going to achieve anything, a new owner absolutely won't fix a thing, it could make it worse - but it won't solve our problems. We need a Medical, Coaching, Recruitment & Management team that are all pulling in the same direction. Preferably with Nigel Pearson being the one both directing and managing them.

Respectfully disagree. Great manager are only truly great with great owners and board.

 

You're right Vichai made some mistakes at the start. And then Pearson was a fantastic appointment to rebuild us. Ranieri is obviously fantastic but I have no idea why he was chosen. Shakespeare was an attempt at continuation but was quickly shelved. Puel despite his obviously failings grew the academy, changed our style, got players signing new contracts and brought in new players who would later win us trophies: all highly important things for the club. They were either great decisions or bad decisions quickly rectified. Since his passing our decision making has been poor at best.