Barnes

[sacreblueits442]

16 hours ago, Leicesterpool said:

50million is a joke! he ain't worth that much relegated or not. I'd be happy with even £30million for him.

...he is English, and he has had productive seasons in the Premier League, like it or not there is an English premium!!!

You may not consider his value to be around the £60m mark, but it won't be far wrong.

[StanSP]

Got a feeling he goes this summer, regardless if we stay up or not.

 

£50m if we go down.

 

Perhaps the club will be able to wrangle another £10-15m if we stay up. But I imagine his agent will do a lot of heavy lifting to get him to a club that's in the top half or possibly in Europe. 

 

 

It's a shame, as it'd be good to keep at least one star after Maddison, Tielemans, Soyuncu all indefinitely leave.

 

 

[st albans fox]

8 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Got a feeling he goes this summer, regardless if we stay up or not.

 

£50m if we go down.

 

Perhaps the club will be able to wrangle another £10-15m if we stay up. But I imagine his agent will do a lot of heavy lifting to get him to a club that's in the top half or possibly in Europe. 

 

 

It's a shame, as it'd be good to keep at least one star after Maddison, Tielemans, Soyuncu all indefinitely leave.

 

 

No chance of that figure imo 

if we go down then we may squeeze £30m 

if we stay up then perhaps £40m/45m

 

he can play out the next year and then we’re buggered with only a year left 

[Stadt]

I think a lot of our fans have no idea of what that market is like these days. Barnes is 25, English and consistently put some of the best non-big 6 numbers for years now. Richarlison moved for £60m last year. Richarlison has 0.30 goals per 90 in the PL and 0.11 assists, Barnes for comparison has 0.31 and 0.23 respectively. Barnes has scored and assisted more frequently than more expensive signings like Mudryk, Pepe and even Grealish. The most valuable thing in football is scoring goals and Barnes is good at it. £50m is absolutely fair.

Edited 26 May 2023 by Stadt

[moore_94]

1 minute ago, Stadt said:

I think a lot of our fans have no idea of what that market is like these days. Barnes is 25, English and consistently put some of the best non-big 6 numbers for years now. Richarlison moved for £60m last year. Richarlison has 0.30 goals per 90 in the PL and 0.11 assists, Barnes for comparison has 0.31 and 0.23 respectively. Barnes has scored and assists more than much more expensive signings like Mudryk, Pepe and even Grealish. The most valuable thing in football is scoring goals and Barnes is good at it. £50m is absolutely fair.

Especially when you also see crap like Gordon move for £45m

Edited 25 May 2023 by moore_94

[Stadt]

1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

Especially when you also see dossers like Gordon move for £45m

He'd scored 7 PL goals at the time. 

 

The last time Barnes didn't match or outscore that total in single season was 2017-18 when he was at Barnsley. We should snap anybody's hands off for £30m though

[JimJams]

Sell him for £50mill, offer Watford less than half that for Sarr (1 year left) and then we can spend the rest of time speculating on who our new LEFT winger will be every year.

[Gerard]

7 hours ago, Finnegan said:

If we stay up, he stays. If we go down we sell. Think it's that straightforward with Barnes. 

 

50 would be extremely low. 

 

People who think it's a lot of money are basing this on their own personal bias because they find him occasionally frustrating to watch. His goal and assist contributions are ridiculous for a player outside the Big 6. 

 

He's comfortably out performed his per 90 xG more than the rest of our forwards. He's been noticeably more accurate this year than Vardy or Iheanacho. 

 

He's also kept up a very consistent level of contribution every year he's been in the first team. I'm honestly baffled by how consistently under rated he is by our own fans. But then half of you still sleep on how good Vardy ACTUALLY is / was. 

 

I've seen Maddison also take loads of flak on twitter and how some people can't wait for him to leave.

 

Those who'll be glad to see Maddison and Barnes go are morons IMO, wait to see who we replace them with and come back to me. Both are top six players as even this season their stats will concur.

[JimJams]

Well if we're getting 50 for Barnes and presumably a bit more for Maddison we've got £100mill+ to rebuild before we dip into any other funds. It's not a terrible situation. In fact, it's probably the kind of situation that makes Flair and Moore quite moist at the prospect!

[Number 6]

2 years left on his contract, multiple clubs interested, we really should be holding out for £50m+.

[Gerard]

21 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

2 years left on his contract, multiple clubs interested, we really should be holding out for £50m+.

 

I always think two years is the pivot point when it's neutral who has the whip hand between player and club. £50m for a player who is 25 is generally very good business, this is probably their peak value and it's not bad business to sell any player at their peak value for a club like ours.

 

One thing is for sure even if we stay up we're not that club anymore, the club that can disrupt the elite clubs. We need to get back to basics and being a well run club with a great scouting team who can pick up young talent and develop it and sell it on, rinse and repeat.

[coolhandfox]

Jesus people thinking the 13th highest in the PL and 7th highest scoring English man isn't worth 50m 

[Stadt]

11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Jesus people thinking the 13th highest in the PL and 7th highest scoring English man isn't worth 50m 

We’d be quoted £20m+ for most (worse) wingers, even in the championship too.

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

What is the current record sale for a Championship side? 

[moore_94]

32 minutes ago, HesNotGudjonsonn2 said:

What is the current record sale for a Championship side? 

I think it is either the Watkins to Villa deal which was £28m rising to £33m or the recent Joao Pedro to Brighton deal which is £30m

 

Barnes and Maddison should both be higher than those

Edited 26 May 2023 by moore_94

[dannythefox]

Maddison 50M, Barnes will be close to that he’s also got another two years on his contract. Scores goals and would definitely improve at a better club. 

Edited 26 May 2023 by dannythefox

[Sampson]

Yeah, people have really warped views about the quality of wingers outside the "big 6" if they think Barnes is only worth £30mil.

 

Barnes is about as good a winger as you can get for a non-"big 6" side, players who have that kind of output are so rare.

[Fox92]

38 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Yeah, people have really warped views about the quality of wingers outside the "big 6" if they think Barnes is only worth £30mil.

 

Barnes is about as good a winger as you can get for a non-"big 6" side, players who have that kind of output are so rare.

I do agree, but I'd also be interested to see the likes of Eze's output if he were in a better team.

[Sampson]

4 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I do agree, but I'd also be interested to see the likes of Eze's output if he were in a better team.

He has been in a much better team than Barnes this year though tbf.

[Dan]

From the Championship is a bit warped when they've dropped into the league. I mean we paid what £17mil for Maguire about 6 years ago.

[Lambert09]

Personally think if its only 30m we should just keep him... the following year it might drop to 15m but for what he offers in the championship... well worth 15m imo! 

 

50m or feck off imo 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

8 hours ago, moore_94 said:

I think it is either the Watkins to Villa deal which was £28m rising to £33m or the recent Joao Pedro to Brighton deal which is £30m

 

Barnes and Maddison should both be higher than those

Nathan Ake £41m to man city.

Edited 26 May 2023 by Chocolate Teapot

[frany104]

The hate Barnes gets is ridiculous. He’s one a very few creative players we have and this is the main reason he is frustrating. When he’s gone and we don’t replace him all you idiots calling for him to go for £20 mill will look stupid. 
 

He’s a £50 million footballer minimum. 

[cityfanlee23]

£50m rated doesn't mean £50m price. I rate myself at about £30m and I haven't kicked a ball in about 10 years. We will get about £30-35m for him if we go down, and we should snap their hand off for it too. 

[Finn Claw II]

English and capable of 10-15 goals a season.   He is at least a £30m player probably a lot more. 

 

It’s a bit like Ward Prowse - someone  low risk as you know they are more than capable in the Premiership.