Jimothy Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 Just now, Leicesterpool said: This certainly does get frustrating, throw your toys out your pram where you don't get called up for your country, so play for someone else. Imagine a miracle where Gray has an amazing Premier League season next year scores 18 goals... whatever. Great year then realises "hang on I could have made the euros squad" I do feel players get bad advice sometimes, 2002 was the last time Jamaica last played in a world cup. You'd rather leave his yourself with opportunity to play for country that qualifies every tournament, that potential could be a contender to win the tournament especially if it's a country of your birth. Rather than playing for another country that you've probably only visited twice on holiday, that only qualify for a tournament once a of two decade. He's never playing for England mate, and he's not throwing his toys out the pram. It's called knowing your limits and accepting if you want to play international football, and have the opportunity to play for other nations take it. Good luck to the lad, he assessed his options and decided this is best chance of playing regularly at international level. He might play in the Gold Cup or even make a world cup. He's eligible for Jamaica, and it strengthens other nations which can only be good for world football. We've had many years of big nations snapping up players born in other countries with less successful football teams, the list is endless, now you want those countries to hog players they'll never use and stop the less successful teams doing it the other way. 4
Bert Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 4 minutes ago, Facecloth said: He's never playing for England mate, and he's not throwing his toys out the pram. It's called knowing your limits and accepting if you want to play international football, and have the opportunity to play for other nations take it. Good luck to the lad, he assessed his options and decided this is best chance of playing regularly at international level. He might play in the Gold Cup or even make a world cup. He's eligible for Jamaica, and it strengthens other nations which can only be good for world football. We've had many years of big nations snapping up players born in other countries with less successful football teams, the list is endless, now you want those countries to hog players they'll never use and stop the less successful teams doing it the other way. There’s still time to admit you’re English, @Finnegan
Leicesterpool Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 4 minutes ago, Facecloth said: He's never playing for England mate, and he's not throwing his toys out the pram. It's called knowing your limits and accepting if you want to play international football, and have the opportunity to play for other nations take it. Good luck to the lad, he assessed his options and decided this is best chance of playing regularly at international level. He might play in the Gold Cup or even make a world cup. He's eligible for Jamaica, and it strengthens other nations which can only be good for world football. We've had many years of big nations snapping up players born in other countries with less successful football teams, the list is endless, now you want those countries to hog players they'll never use and stop the less successful teams doing it the other way. But at the end its turning international football into transfer window. Its like going into a family tree, to find out if you got connections to another country. Last thing want is to see players bribed to play another nation rather than their place of birth. Not saying Gray was bribed, but whose to say future players won't be.
Lionator Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 If we’d have just gotten the Saudi’s to lend King Power some money then we wouldn’t had to have of worried about FFP judging what’s going on with Chelsea and Wolves.
Bert Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 3 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: But at the end its turning international football into transfer window. Its like going into a family tree, to find out if you got connections to another country. Last thing want is to see players bribed to play another nation rather than their place of birth. Not saying Gray was bribed, but whose to say future players won't be. Declan Rice and Jack Grealish both represented Ireland…. Diego Costa, Aymeric Laporte also switched allegiances. It’s in the laws, sadly.
Leicesterpool Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 Just now, Bert said: Declan Rice and Jack Grealish both represented Ireland…. Diego Costa, Aymeric Laporte also switched allegiances. It’s in the laws, sadly. Apart from Rice and Grealish were in English born anyway.
CosbehFox Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 23 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: But at the end its turning international football into transfer window. Its like going into a family tree, to find out if you got connections to another country. Last thing want is to see players bribed to play another nation rather than their place of birth. Not saying Gray was bribed, but whose to say future players won't be. It’s been happening for years and years. I don’t get the problem. You go as far back as the USA 1930 World Cup squad to find they had numerous Scottish players. Ferenc Puskas and Alfredo Di Stefano switched in their careers.
Jimothy Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 10 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: But at the end its turning international football into transfer window. Its like going into a family tree, to find out if you got connections to another country. Last thing want is to see players bribed to play another nation rather than their place of birth. Not saying Gray was bribed, but whose to say future players won't be. It only goes back a couple of generations, it's not like he's had to go on ancestry.com to find out of he can play for Jamaica. As @CosbehFox says it was worse years ago, they've tightened it up. You could only bribe players with a genuine connection to your country, it's not like France could bribe Bellingham for example. Also your talking about smaller nations bribing players (which is surely less likely, they aren't as rich) but take no issue seemingly that larger nation could have been doing it for years with the numerous players who have representing nations like England, Brazil, Germany, Italy, France, Netherlands etc when they weren't born there. I'm baffled you want 100s of players who have family from other nations to miss out on international football and raising the standard of the competitions and just sit there and wait for a chance they'll never get with the country they were born in.
Finnegan Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 Good job Chelsea have signed an attacking midfielder. They were looking a bit light in that position. 2
Super_horns Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 I thought this deal had been announced before or am I thinking of someone else ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64013875
BKLFox Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 On 19/06/2023 at 08:04, UniFox21 said: Came here to post this, all looks a bit dodgy doesn't it? Ik it's one thing to show them doing things and another to prove it's breaking rules. But how the league let's so much slide is ridiculous. PIF now own and invest in two of the big 6/7. A short Google suggests a company backed by PIF also sponsor man city. Yep fully stinks, Todd will now recover best part of the 650m he spent in the last 2 windows on the aging dross he has selling to the Saudi's then go on another 0.5bn splurge..Nkunku starts the ball rolling & Nicolas Jackson soon to follow theres nearly a combined 100m to start How does a club that brings in 450m per season potentially spend 1bn over 3 consecutive windows & pay the 300k+pw wages without doing something grubby.
Finnegan Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 47 minutes ago, Super_horns said: I thought this deal had been announced before or am I thinking of someone else ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64013875 It's been a foregone conclusion for months yeah but I think this is the first official confirmation. BBC calling him a striker is hugely generous to Todd Boehly though. He's not at all, he's another attacking midfielder. He's good, I like him, I'm a big fan. He's been great since he went to RBL. Like Havertz, he is a goal scoring attacking mid, he absolutely will chip in with goals but he still definitely is not a 9. 1
Nugent Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 Coordinated action from fans works, good on those Man City groups involved. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65962426 1 1
Leicesterpool Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 3 hours ago, Koke said: Sterling born in Jamaica. Represents England. True mind spent most of his life in England. 1
UniFox21 Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 I'd assume he'd also want a thorough investigation into the ownership of United and where his world cup presenting money came from? 1
Super_horns Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 2 hours ago, Leicesterpool said: True mind spent most of his life in England. Like John Barnes I think ?
Leicesterpool Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 4 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Like John Barnes I think ? Yeah like Sterling moved to England at young age at spent most of his life in England. 1
CosbehFox Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 Find Newcastle’s transfer targets this summer a bit bemusing - they did really well last 18 mo the picking the best of the tier below. Bruno, Botman and Isak but Tonali and Barrella seems like a lot of money for players of the same level
Ian Nacho Posted 20 June 2023 Posted 20 June 2023 Won’t be long before there’s some sort of regulation to this Saudi money being thrown around. Clubs FFP problems are being solved just because out of luck. 1
goose2010 Posted 21 June 2023 Posted 21 June 2023 How many of these players going to Saudi end up on loan at Newcastle in January? Especially if they are still in the champs league. It's so dodgy but no one seems to care. Chelsea will have cleared about 100m of their wage budget this week.
Koke Posted 21 June 2023 Posted 21 June 2023 Chelsea are up to something dodgy. They've cleared £100m off their books. 1
StanSP Posted 21 June 2023 Posted 21 June 2023 Just now, Koke said: Chelsea are up to something dodgy. They've cleared £100m off their books. One of their main investors, Clearlake Capital, have linked to PIF/Saudi Arabia. It's dodgy as fvck but not one influential person in the media or PL seem to be batting an eyelid to it. Word is they had to clear a certain amount of money by 30th June to avoid FFP sanctions. How convenient the Saudis stepped in just in time 1
RonnieTodger Posted 21 June 2023 Posted 21 June 2023 13 minutes ago, Koke said: Chelsea are up to something dodgy. They've cleared £100m off their books. I was just about to post the same. What a stroke of luck after needing a clear out.
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