Long Eaton Fox Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 He's been through so much torture and come back smiling, I just want him to stay . Help us back to the Premier league Ricky 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 9 hours ago, Gerard said: Why on earth would we loan out such a high quality player for no fee and cover half of his wages for the privilege? Makes no sense whatsoever, where have you got this information from? Who is going to pay for him? High quality player? It isn’t 2019-20 anymore. Suspect we may end up loaning out some this year, the likes of Soumare, Ndidi and Castagne May all end up going out on loan before we eventually sell. It’s just football, they are on high wages. It doesn’t make no sense whatsoever at all. I’m just passing on what I’ve been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 Can’t imagine we would loan him out with only 50% of his wages covered which will have already been reduced by 35-50% anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Who is going to pay for him? High quality player? It isn’t 2019-20 anymore. Suspect we may end up loaning out some this year, the likes of Soumare, Ndidi and Castagne May all end up going out on loan before we eventually sell. It’s just football, they are on high wages. It doesn’t make no sense whatsoever at all. I’m just passing on what I’ve been told. His wages will have been reduced like everybody else's. It would be completely insane to loan him out, depriving us of his services, for no transfer fee in exchange for another club paying half his already-reduced wages. Edited 3 July 2023 by ClaphamFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 12 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Who is going to pay for him? High quality player? It isn’t 2019-20 anymore. Suspect we may end up loaning out some this year, the likes of Soumare, Ndidi and Castagne May all end up going out on loan before we eventually sell. It’s just football, they are on high wages. It doesn’t make no sense whatsoever at all. I’m just passing on what I’ve been told. The thing is though, if we were paying 50% of his wages... Added to whatever we are going to be paying his replacement... It will probably end up about the same anyway so wouldn't it make more sense to keep Ricardo who will probably be better than anyone we bring in? Unless ofcourse he's pushing to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Scotch said: The thing is though, if we were paying 50% of his wages... Added to whatever we are going to be paying his replacement... It will probably end up about the same anyway so wouldn't it make more sense to keep Ricardo who will probably be better than anyone we bring in? Unless ofcourse he's pushing to go. Or, he has a good loan spell for a year and comes back when we are promoted for us then to get a fee for him or treat him like a new signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 1 minute ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Or, he has a good loan spell for a year and comes back when we are promoted for us then to get a fee for him or treat him like a new signing? But we would have a better chance of being promoted with him in the side than anyone else we are likely to sign... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 Awesome player when fit, and that’s the key point, when. Could have been a multitude of things working against him, but probably best to let him go to a new challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 2 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Who is going to pay for him? High quality player? It isn’t 2019-20 anymore. Suspect we may end up loaning out some this year, the likes of Soumare, Ndidi and Castagne May all end up going out on loan before we eventually sell. It’s just football, they are on high wages. It doesn’t make no sense whatsoever at all. I’m just passing on what I’ve been told. Who told you? Assuming he was on 90k a week and his wages are now 45k a week. If we're paying half his wages and the loan club are paying the other half then it saves us 22.5k per week in wages. So the conundrum is do we have Ricardo for the season at a cost of £22.5k per week or not? It makes no sense whatsoever to loan him out on those terms when if he stays fit he'll be head and shoulders the best RB in the league. Personally I'd like to keep both Ricardo and JJ and ease them in by rotating them playing once a week at RB whilst Thomas and VK play LB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Gerard said: Who told you? Assuming he was on 90k a week and his wages are now 45k a week. If we're paying half his wages and the loan club are paying the other half then it saves us 22.5k per week in wages. So the conundrum is do we have Ricardo for the season at a cost of £22.5k per week or not? It makes no sense whatsoever to loan him out on those terms when if he stays fit he'll be head and shoulders the best RB in the league. Personally I'd like to keep both Ricardo and JJ and ease them in by rotating them playing once a week at RB whilst Thomas and VK play LB. That's the Millon dollar question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 37 minutes ago, Gerard said: Who told you? Assuming he was on 90k a week and his wages are now 45k a week. If we're paying half his wages and the loan club are paying the other half then it saves us 22.5k per week in wages. So the conundrum is do we have Ricardo for the season at a cost of £22.5k per week or not? It makes no sense whatsoever to loan him out on those terms when if he stays fit he'll be head and shoulders the best RB in the league. Personally I'd like to keep both Ricardo and JJ and ease them in by rotating them playing once a week at RB whilst Thomas and VK play LB. Dependent on the terms of that contract, the relegation wage reduction is waived if loaned by a top flight club. So the wages go back to £90k a week on your example and Leicester having to pay £45k of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 If Porto are interested, I can imagine him going back easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 9 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Dependent on the terms of that contract, the relegation wage reduction is waived if loaned by a top flight club. So the wages go back to £90k a week on your example and Leicester having to pay £45k of it So if Ricardo was on £90k a week then and had his contract reduced to 50% on relegation we pay him £45k per week. If we send him on loan and the wage reduction is waived we still have to pay him £45k per week. So our choices are send him on loan at a cost of £45k per week or keep him here and play him for £45k per week. No brainer then on that logic, zero benefit to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 3 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: If Porto are interested, I can imagine him going back easily. But would they make it worth our while? If not it won't be happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_no7 Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 1 hour ago, Gerard said: Who told you? Assuming he was on 90k a week and his wages are now 45k a week. If we're paying half his wages and the loan club are paying the other half then it saves us 22.5k per week in wages. So the conundrum is do we have Ricardo for the season at a cost of £22.5k per week or not? It makes no sense whatsoever to loan him out on those terms when if he stays fit he'll be head and shoulders the best RB in the league. Personally I'd like to keep both Ricardo and JJ and ease them in by rotating them playing once a week at RB whilst Thomas and VK play LB. I’d love to keep them both too, but having two right backs on 60K+ a week EACH won’t be happening in the championship. Ricardo was on more than 90K p/w in the prem and the majority of players have had 35% reductions in wages, not 50%. The only one who’s potentially had a 50% deduction is Vardy as a 35% deduction still had him earning in excess of 100k p/w. Kasey Mcateer is being looked at as a RWB option to back up JJ/RP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 3 July 2023 Share Posted 3 July 2023 9 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: I’d love to keep them both too, but having two right backs on 60K+ a week EACH won’t be happening in the championship. Ricardo was on more than 90K p/w in the prem and the majority of players have had 35% reductions in wages, not 50%. The only one who’s potentially had a 50% deduction is Vardy as a 35% deduction still had him earning in excess of 100k p/w. Kasey Mcateer is being looked at as a RWB option to back up JJ/RP. Even if your £60k per week is right then if we're loaning him out and paying half his wages then it still only costs us £30k per week more to keep him for the season. The figures make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxmeister Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 (edited) On 03/07/2023 at 12:46, Gerard said: So if Ricardo was on £90k a week then and had his contract reduced to 50% on relegation we pay him £45k per week. If we send him on loan and the wage reduction is waived we still have to pay him £45k per week. So our choices are send him on loan at a cost of £45k per week or keep him here and play him for £45k per week. No brainer then on that logic, zero benefit to us. So have I got this right? One of the best players ever to have played in the 2nd tier, effectively, for nothing. Edited 5 July 2023 by Foxmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 He is back guys, is on latest training pictures, unless its a lookalike actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 15 minutes ago, Chrysalis said: He is back guys, is on latest training pictures, unless its a lookalike actor. He's been back since the first day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, dmayne7 said: He's been back since the first day... You misunderstand, Chrysalis is one of the clubs physios and Riccy has just walked through his door. So for Chrys, he's properly back now! Edited 8 July 2023 by JimJams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freeman's Wharfer Posted 8 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2023 If he’s fit, he’ll be the best player in The Championship. If you actively want rid of him, you’re mad! 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: If he’s fit, he’ll be the best player in The Championship. If you actively want rid of him, you’re mad! there’s people that actively want rid of Barnes and Maddison, mate. Ricky P isn’t safe either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bptiger Posted 9 July 2023 Share Posted 9 July 2023 He’s a keeper every day of the week 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 3stevo Posted 9 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 9 July 2023 2 hours ago, Bptiger said: He’s a keeper every day of the week A bit short but I’d take him over Ward 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 9 July 2023 Share Posted 9 July 2023 8 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said: If he’s fit, he’ll be the best player in The Championship. If you actively want rid of him, you’re mad! I totally agree but it's a huge if isn't it. Let's just hope it really was the dwarf's fault all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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