Sambiasso Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 31 July 2023 Author Share Posted 31 July 2023 Just now, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. I agree with you. If I’m Palmer, I’m wanting reassurances on other recruitment before I agree to join. I’d also be talking with Doyle and Maresca to get their actually opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 4 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. I definitely get this argument, it's valid BUT thong a little more optimistically, I think it would be easier to smash it here than it would be at a Prem club which would help his case for a Man City place more... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 7 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. If he's reasonable he would look at Mcatee who seems to have overtaken him in the standings at Man City and would want to follow a similar trajectory. Sadly most footballers dont think that logically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 9 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. I think he's done either way tbh. Man City will hope wherever he goes they can sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 6 minutes ago, jim5000 said: He scored two own goals on his debut ...if we are talking about the Liverpool game, it was not his debut, far from it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 28 minutes ago, jim5000 said: He scored two own goals on his debut By "debut" I assume you mean, his 11th game for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecity23 Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 He was part of a defence that conceded 6 goals Vs Spurs on his debut. The own goals were later. Still can't believe Rodgers survived that, getting 5 put past you by Brighton, before going one worse a week later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 31 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 31 July 2023 7 hours ago, Finnegan said: In all seriousness though this is what I've been saying for a few weeks. Just because we've been relegated it doesn't magically fix things. News flash, it makes them worse. Yes a few people have left but two of them were our two top scorers and whilst a bit of deadwood has gone we've definitely got a lot of shit still here the reality is the manager probably doesn't want. They gotta go if we want to buy. We were fvcked last year because we couldn't get them out the club and we're still fvcked now. This is exactly what I argued last season. When some were almost celebrating relegation as an opportunity to rebuild. You’re suddenly in a completely different market, and a completely different situation. We’re lucky that we’ve got rid of Barnes and Maddison, but we need to get rid of others, not because we don’t have the cash, more to do with the fact we can’t have players that the manager doesn’t want sat out of the squad earning £50k+ and not playing. If they stay, they have to play and that’s that, on paper we’re probably good enough to get a job done with a few more additions, but it’s the attitude that concerns me…. To many players want away, and they’ve already shown they’re not up for the fight. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtcity Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 20 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I think he's done either way tbh. Man City will hope wherever he goes they can sell him. This! He looks like a decent prospect but you’ve got to be Foden levels of talented to make the grade at Man City… I imagine they’ll just be waiting until they’ve brought in a Mahrez replacement before they farm him out on loan before cashing in on him next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 39 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. If they, or he, is worried about not performing in the championship. He probably won't make it regardless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darko2k7 Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 44 minutes ago, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 On 17/07/2023 at 09:38, Paninistickers said: This still makes me chuckle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 9 hours ago, Finnegan said: We're trying, nobody wants them. People keep coming out with this "just pay them off / buyout their contracts!" stuff. Even my old man keeps saying it. That doesn't work in the real world. In fact, it's worse than keeping them at the club. Taking Vestergaard as an example, currently we're paying his contract off over multiple years. If we just buy out his contract, we're taking the entire hit now and have to find room in this seasons budget for his entire contract at a time when we're probably already on somewhat dubious ground for FFP. Not to mention that if there's even a 5% chance that a club comes in and takes him on loan, even only paying 20% of his wages, that's still better than just sacking him off. The only way it'd ever work is by mutual termination and there's zero incentive for him to agree to a severely reduced payout. I don't think (at least i hope not) that it's a case of 'nobody wanting them' - but rather down to money. We know the club play hard ball and try to get as much as possible, so no smart club will be in a hurry, they'll prefer to leave it til the last minute in the hope that we'll be prepared to accept offers. Certainly, that's what @Sambiasso hinted at, timewise- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 4 hours ago, Sambiasso said: If Palmer did sign for us(not implying he is before anyone jumps to conclusions) and didn't perform to expectations, would it damage his prospects at Man City moving forward? Think it's safer for him to go to a premier league club where he won't be expected to smash it. Surely there’s going to be more incoming from Man City than just Doyle, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 3 minutes ago, MPH said: Surely there’s going to be more incoming from Man City than just Doyle, though? Hopefully Bobb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 The positives for loans from Man City are: - Man City know that if they loan us players, they will get game time (if in positions which we have to fill I.e. attacking mid & rhs attack) - Man City know and trust Maresca to coach them in the Man City patterns of play - Man City will know of our excellent facilities it bodes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 4 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Man City will know of our excellent facilities Well if they've had a look on FT they'll have learned that Seagrave is a vanity project and a total waste of time, and that our entire club is a hopeless basket case from top to bottom, staffed entirely by clueless morons, so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 10 minutes ago, Phil Bowman said: Well if they've had a look on FT they'll have learned that Seagrave is a vanity project and a total waste of time, and that our entire club is a hopeless basket case from top to bottom, staffed entirely by clueless morons, so... Yeah, I’m sure Pep and his staff often frequent the pages of FT to view the irrelevant opinions of us foxes faithful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 12 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Yeah, I’m sure Pep and his staff often frequent the pages of FT to view the irrelevant opinions of us foxes faithful. As they should! Time spent on FT is never time wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 1 hour ago, Phil Bowman said: Well if they've had a look on FT they'll have learned that Seagrave is a vanity project and a total waste of time, and that our entire club is a hopeless basket case from top to bottom, staffed entirely by clueless morons, so... There is that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 10 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said: We've got the same 'problem' we had last season - 10 players currently in their final year. (This image is from another comment I made. Orange = club would sell/player could want to leave) People act as if it's easy to sell players. You can't make other clubs submit bids. Buyer has to make a bid they're happy with. Seller has to be happy with the bid. Player has to be happy with the buying club. Player has to be happy with new wages. Has the club perhaps been unrealistic with it's valuations of fringe players? Yes. But is this process simple? No. If the club wants to sell a player like Vestergaard, but only receives bids that are far below the cost to replace him, then why would they sell? Do Praet and Vestergaard need replacing? For the half arsed effort that especially Praet will put in, i'd just take what happened last season as a given with most of them and cut our losses. Yet again though some bizarre decisions are happening and i'm worried as **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: Hopefully Bobb. Sponge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 2 hours ago, Phil Bowman said: Well if they've had a look on FT they'll have learned that Seagrave is a vanity project and a total waste of time, and that our entire club is a hopeless basket case from top to bottom, staffed entirely by clueless morons, so... It’s great to read that things are picking up after the last couple of seasons 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 31 July 2023 Share Posted 31 July 2023 If this was to be done it’ll be done later in the window. Man City will want to wait and see if there’s any Premier League suitors before they say yes to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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