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He’s a limited player but he leaves everything out there. Offers pace in this team which we desperately need. Has been a feature in most of our positive results this season I’d think? Happy to have him as a squad player. 

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If he more players of the work rate etc, we wouldn’t have some of the issues we do. I commend him for a young lad for keeping at it. He now has something he will remember forever 

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Just really winds me up how often his pass forces the recipient to slow down or even go backwards. It's basic stuff. 

 

Thought he was having a shocking game and then had a good shot hit the post before finding the net with his next. 

 

I feel bad for being harsh on him. Local lad, tries hard etc. I just don't think he's good enough. Happy to be proven wrong but I'd prefer if he didn't have the chance.

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Actually a very well taken goal, played well today. If we can mix technically skilled players with those with desire and work rate like Kasey, we'll do well next year.

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8 hours ago, Sankey93 said:

I’ve slagged him off in the past and was annoyed we didn’t accept the bid from Sunderland but the last few games he’s impressed me and think he could be a vital

player next season in the championship!

Be interesting to see what happens with the wingers next season, we’ve got Stephy, Fatawu, McAteer, Ayew, BDR, Alves, Monga and Evans.

 

That’s 8 options to fill 5 spots realistically. Be interesting to see which 3 will leave unless a few move into the No.10 role with Bilal likely to move on.

 

Could Ayew and Monga move into the No.10 position permanently?

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1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

 

Mate give over. 

 

I love his work rate and enthusiasm and he's not an awful finisher but he can't beat his man, he's not really quick enough to be a winger and he near exclusively sends the ball backwards. 

 

He's a strange one because he's got a few decent qualities but they seem largely wasted in the actual position he plays where he lacks the key skill of being able to actually beat his man or carry the ball at pace. 

 

In the end he is just lacking somewhat, with a wide 3 of Abdul, Stephy & Jeremy, again he is at the back of the queue, maybe that devil or any confidence he may have had earlier in his career has been coached out of him.  Will be ok in the Championship BUT NOT a Premier league player or even back up unless he finds something quickly.

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19 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Mate give over. 

 

I love his work rate and enthusiasm and he's not an awful finisher but he can't beat his man, he's not really quick enough to be a winger and he near exclusively sends the ball backwards. 

 

He's a strange one because he's got a few decent qualities but they seem largely wasted in the actual position he plays where he lacks the key skill of being able to actually beat his man or carry the ball at pace. 

 

Two years on and I still think the best use of him is probably as a box to box pest down the middle but he's played there about once? Alternatively, he'd be better off the shoulder trying to get in behind than being stuck out wide and no manager has ever tried that despite our lack of depth up top. 

 

He's just absolutely not a winger at all. He's largely dreadful at it and contributes hugely to our inability to advance the ball up the pitch. 

 

Yeah I agree I think he looked pretty good when he played as a high 8 away at Stoke although only played there for 45 minutes  and was taken off at half time, never to play there since. I also think he would make a brilliant right back, good engine, disciplined and physically would do well. 

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21 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Mate give over. 

 

I love his work rate and enthusiasm and he's not an awful finisher but he can't beat his man, he's not really quick enough to be a winger and he near exclusively sends the ball backwards. 

 

He's a strange one because he's got a few decent qualities but they seem largely wasted in the actual position he plays where he lacks the key skill of being able to actually beat his man or carry the ball at pace. 

 

Two years on and I still think the best use of him is probably as a box to box pest down the middle but he's played there about once? Alternatively, he'd be better off the shoulder trying to get in behind than being stuck out wide and no manager has ever tried that despite our lack of depth up top. 

 

He's just absolutely not a winger at all. He's largely dreadful at it and contributes hugely to our inability to advance the ball up the pitch. 

 

He has the Perez problem of that he doesn't have the attributes to play anywhere well. If you move inside his lack of ability with the ball at his feet is a bigger problem.

 

He's a trier and mobile - that's better than some of the dossers we have but if he gets serious minutes next season we're in trouble. He's the most replaceable 'pure profit' (grotesque term) sale we can make. If we can get £6-8m we have to take it. Fatawu, Mavididi and Alves should play the vast majority of minutes on the wings next year.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He has the Perez problem of that he doesn't have the attributes to play anywhere well. If you move inside his lack of ability with the ball at his feet is a bigger problem.

 

He's a trier and mobile - that's better than some of the dossers we have but if he gets serious minutes next season we're in trouble. He's the most replaceable 'pure profit' (grotesque term) sale we can make. If we can get £6-8m we have to take it. Fatawu, Mavididi and Alves should play the vast majority of minutes on the wings next year.

 

 

Lot of games in the Championship, and Kasey is ironically one of the more experienced players. I fear Fatawu will spend the first part of the season recovering from niggling injuries as you would expect following an ACL, and still a big question mark over Alves although the loan showed promise. Mavadidi is interesting as he blows hot and cold.

 

I think he has a big part to play next season, and he gives a shit.  Ideally a good Championship season leads to a decent sale at the end of the season?

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Happy for the lad to get his goal, you can never knock his work ethic. He's miles off the level we need though. Would love to see him at a club more on his level and see him thrive

 

The lads main issue is when he's on the ball and asked to do the things you'd expect of a winger. His speed of thought and ability to do those things at the top level or even 2nd tier aren't really there.

 

Given his physical attributes, ability to find himself in the right place and recent experience, I think he could do well in league one, but even then. I couldn't confidently sell him in any position. I don't think he has the talent to play midfield and I'm not convinced he's a striker. He's definitely not a winger. Just kind of have him in the other teams half and he'll somehow end up with time and space in the box at some point lol

 

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Quick, works hard, decent finisher. Better when he doesn't have time to think and its all instinctive. 

 

Not a Premier league player, but a decent option to have in the squad in the championship. 

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I just don't think you can rush to judgement.  He is still developing, still improving and has a good goal scoring record.

 

He might make it, he might not, but he still has a long way to go before he reaches his ceiling.

 

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17 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Lot of games in the Championship, and Kasey is ironically one of the more experienced players. I fear Fatawu will spend the first part of the season recovering from niggling injuries as you would expect following an ACL, and still a big question mark over Alves although the loan showed promise. Mavadidi is interesting as he blows hot and cold.

 

I think he has a big part to play next season, and he gives a shit.  Ideally a good Championship season leads to a decent sale at the end of the season?

£7m ish does a lot more for us than 1000 minutes and 3 or 4 goal contributions. Alves looks better than KM technically already and he's 3 years younger. There's also Monga/Evans/Ayew or BDCR too we're not going to be able to shift both of those last two.

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1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Mate give over. 

 

I love his work rate and enthusiasm and he's not an awful finisher but he can't beat his man, he's not really quick enough to be a winger and he near exclusively sends the ball backwards. 

 

He's a strange one because he's got a few decent qualities but they seem largely wasted in the actual position he plays where he lacks the key skill of being able to actually beat his man or carry the ball at pace. 

 

Two years on and I still think the best use of him is probably as a box to box pest down the middle but he's played there about once? Alternatively, he'd be better off the shoulder trying to get in behind than being stuck out wide and no manager has ever tried that despite our lack of depth up top. 

 

He's just absolutely not a winger at all. He's largely dreadful at it and contributes hugely to our inability to advance the ball up the pitch. 

 

I agree on majority of what you’ve said tbf but in the championship next season I think he will be useful. Definitely agree on the winger part though start of the las season when he scored away at Southampton he bombed it through the middle, maybe high 8 or like the other lad said playing off a striker big lad decent speed and he’s got the grit and determination. Be nice option for next season imo.

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I think a lot of the passing backwards is coaching and confidence. Justin is often guilty of it too, but for a moment yesterday he seemed to remember he’s actually decent going forwards and ran through the defence and set up a nice assist for Jamie. 

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21 minutes ago, Sankey93 said:

but in the championship next season I think he will be useful

 

I actually think he'll be less useful than last time to be honest.

 

I suppose it depends what coach comes in but what made Kasey effective under Maresca was the number of the right bodies we got forward in threatening positions in his system. 

 

Mavididi, KDH, Ndidi and Vardy/Daka all threatening the box, tying up defenders gave Kasey some freedom to drift in to spaces off the ball which is one of his best qualities and what got him his few goals. 

 

The extreme likelihood is that a coach is probably going to come in and play a far more conventional system in which case we'll actually be relying on our wide players to be the main providers of goal contributions and if that's the case he isn't good enough at all.

 

He'll mostly be used as a defensive impact sub helping to close out games and I don't see the point in keeping him around for that when we likely aren't going to be able to shift BDCR and Ayew and people will still pay a few million for McAteer that'll represent pure profit. 

 

I'd definitely sell. 

 

It's funny @Stadt mentions Perez because, tbh, one of the few ways I could see McAteer working is as a defensive foil for a more attack minded, overlapping full back if a coach comes in that takes a shine to Woyo. 

 

McAteer holding the ball up for Coulibaly to overlap and then covering the space against counters is probably more actual threat than McAteer attacking himself. 

 

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