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Posted
27 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Not sure what timescale they had but it's pretty amazing bridge could be closed to traffic so quickly, even if traffic was probably minimal at this time.

 

Saw the footage earlier of the collapse and assumed it was a AI thing, couldn't believe it was real. 

 

15 minutes ago, Fox in the North said:

Agreed, the loss of life would have been unthinkable had that been rush hour.

On the last news bulletin, it was said that the ship issued a mayday call allowing the bridge to be closed before the collision.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

On the last news bulletin, it was said that the ship issued a mayday call allowing the bridge to be closed before the collision.

This won't stop the conspiracy theorists going utterly nuts over it.

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Here's my adaptation of the first verse of William McGonagall's famously crap poem about the Tay Bridge disaster of 1879:-

Beautiful road bridge of the silv’ry estuary
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That some lives have been taken away
On the last Tuesday of March 2024,
Which will be remember’d for evermore.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Guesty said:

It might not be human error. You can see on the longer video all the lights on the ship go out a couple of times before it hits. They must have been having power issues.

 

No power = no steering. Which means it goes where the current and wind takes it. Even if the steering/power does come back, you can't just turn those things immediately.

 

Surprising that a 1.6 mile bridge over a river collapses so quickly when hit by a boat.

 

Edit: 29 seconds in all the lights go out.

 

Apparently the ship's pilots were so surprised to see workers repairing potholes!!

Posted
3 hours ago, Parafox said:

 

On the last news bulletin, it was said that the ship issued a mayday call allowing the bridge to be closed before the collision.

You can clearly see vehicles driving over the bridge when it happens. :(

Posted
58 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

You can clearly see vehicles driving over the bridge when it happens. :(

i *think* the vehicles on the bridge were the maintenance vehicles. The mayday call presumably enabled the bridge to be closed to traffic about to cross it. Perhaps there were some vehicles already crossing but it sounds like it's the maintenance crew who are the ones missing. 

 

I imagine the bridge is well covered by CCTV so they must have a reasonable idea of how many vehicles were on it at the time of collapse.

 

I think it is a bit suprising that a bridge like this with piers in a major waterway didn't have those piers protected with barriers (which exist on other bridges). Whilst they might not be able to withstand the impact of a massive cargo ship such as in the image below (admitedly a very different type of bridge and waterway).

 

 

Bridge Pier Protection Systems Coastline Composites,, 50% OFF

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So a man who the church of England helped get baptised to become a "Christian " who was granted asylum in this country AFTER he committed a sexual assault in this country and who went on to commit an acid attack against an ex partner before being found dead after a manhunt was buried as a Muslim. Honestly you couldn't make it up. Who the @#£% do We have running the country. 

Posted
1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

Phoebe's parents should be actively seeking a refund for her private education.

 

 

 

Might be harmless but being in contempt of court doesn't mean you have to cause harm to breach bail lol lol

What a mess. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

Best thing Elon ever did for twitter was introduce the community notes. This is just brilliant.

 

 

 

They are funny but not necessarily always relevant.  For all we know there where 2 already in 2019, and a 3rd was not needed.  Or public opinion was against a location due to parking issues say and he listened to his voters.

 

Actually reading the minutes, planning officers had recommended refusal as they already lost too many retail units to fast food.  Perhaps that changed, or policy changed due to covid, more empty shops over a longer period etc.  

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Posted
12 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

So a man who the church of England helped get baptised to become a "Christian " who was granted asylum in this country AFTER he committed a sexual assault in this country and who went on to commit an acid attack against an ex partner before being found dead after a manhunt was buried as a Muslim. Honestly you couldn't make it up. Who the @#£% do We have running the country. 

Should have had a Christian burial.

Posted
3 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

They are funny but not necessarily always relevant.  For all we know there where 2 already in 2019, and a 3rd was not needed.  Or public opinion was against a location due to parking issues say and he listened to his voters.

 

Actually reading the minutes, planning officers had recommended refusal as they already lost too many retail units to fast food.  Perhaps that changed, or policy changed due to covid, more empty shops over a longer period etc.  

 

Nose and smell, apparently. 

Good job those new chippies are silent and odourless! 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

Absolute disgrace and Thames Water shareholders want to raise prices

They are without shame and the pathetic platitudes these water companies come out with is insulting

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Private water companies with absolutely no competition, 70-odd percent of which are foreign owned. A natural monopoly and a license to print money whilst investors load said companies with debt and pay out billions in dividends to shareholders. 

 

They enrich themselves whilst literally shitting and pissing all over the country. 

 

It's the perfect allegory for Toryism. 

 

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I used to be outraged by the sewage in the rivers till I found out how much it costs to fix; now I sort of understand why it never gets fixed. Don't agree with it, but understand.

 

It's £100 to 200 billion minimum. Some estimate it would be around £660 billion (others say that's far too high). I think Rory Stewart on the Rest is Politics said when he was an environment minister it was around a £300 billion estimate (could be wrong, was a while ago). I'm sure that's why when the news cover it they rarely actually go into how much it would cost to fix.

 

It's all because it's an old, outdated system where rainwater uses the same system as our waste/sewage.

 

But something needs to be done as it's increasing at an alarming rate. Yet dividends are still going out to shareholders instead of being saved up to fix it. Privatisation hasn't worked and people's water bills will in part have to be used to fund the fix. Which is why I think it always gets kicked down the road.

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