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Kasey McAteer - Everton

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trooky

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The first line of this article sounds weird, it's like it's been written by an AI bot. 

 

I don't see this happening, when he's still developing as a regular starter for us.

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lcfc sheff

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Hmm I don’t like the idea of selling homegrown players especially when with the very little we’ve seen of him he’s proven to be a good finisher at the back post.

Which I’m sure the eagle eyed fans of ours have noticed has been a new little thing added by Maresca lately with our wingers crosses. If he’s happy being 3rd or 4th in the winger rankings I’d keep him.

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coolhandfox

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Selling home grown talent is very useful from a FFP point of view, pure profit.

 

Which is way you see the like of Man City selling Palmer and Chelsea willing to sell Gallagher.

 

 

 

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brookfox

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Even when Romano gives it the “Here we go”, a picture is released of him signing his Toffees contract, he changes his online profile to declare himself an Everton player, then he makes his debut for them. Even then I’ll fail to believe this is true.

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Stadt

Stadt

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2 hours ago, MPH said:


 

because he’s a very good player who has played well and scored good goals. You have to be pretty much blind to not see that.

Like I said, he’s done a great job at getting on the end of chances. His all round game hasn’t been impressive, he doesn’t get his head up very well, his passing is pretty basic.

 

He works hard and he’s quick but he’s not getting much of a look in for a reason, been subbed off in his last few starts.

 

Absurd and blind are complete exaggerations 

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MPH

MPH

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2 hours ago, Stadt said:

Like I said, he’s done a great job at getting on the end of chances. His all round game hasn’t been impressive, he doesn’t get his head up very well, his passing is pretty basic.

 

He works hard and he’s quick but he’s not getting much of a look in for a reason, been subbed off in his last few starts.

 

Absurd and blind are complete exaggerations 


 

he’s not playing because Fatawu is in the form of his life, then again I’d say there’s not a single winger in the whole division who would get in ahead of him.

 

and I stay behind the comment that it is absurd to take your stance and you must be blind to want to sell him for a ‘ decent’ fee. He’s exactly the sort of player we need to keep hold of.

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Stadt

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27 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

he’s not playing because Fatawu is in the form of his life, then again I’d say there’s not a single winger in the whole division who would get in ahead of him.

 

and I stay behind the comment that it is absurd to take your stance and you must be blind to want to sell him for a ‘ decent’ fee. He’s exactly the sort of player we need to keep hold of.

He’s not had a minute since WBA, Wanya has been frozen out, signed a contract and made a cameo in that time.

 

I never specified what a decent fee is, you wouldn’t sell him for 5m? We paid a touch more for Mavididi.

 

We’re almost certainly getting promoted,  it’s likely not going to cut it in the PL. Is this absurd? Of course not.

 

In his defence he’s not played all that much, partially through injury but beyond that it’s not a ringing endorsement.

 

I actually hope he’s really good but from what I’ve seen he had a bit of purple patch playing in a really good team.

 

Federico Macheda, Schlupp, Iheanacho even are the sort of players who like they’ll break through at a level above what they eventually settle at - McAteer is one of those imo.

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MPH

MPH

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45 minutes ago, Stadt said:

He’s not had a minute since WBA, Wanya has been frozen out, signed a contract and made a cameo in that time.

 

I never specified what a decent fee is, you wouldn’t sell him for 5m? We paid a touch more for Mavididi.

 

We’re almost certainly getting promoted,  it’s likely not going to cut it in the PL. Is this absurd? Of course not.

 

In his defence he’s not played all that much, partially through injury but beyond that it’s not a ringing endorsement.

 

I actually hope he’s really good but from what I’ve seen he had a bit of purple patch playing in a really good team.

 

Federico Macheda, Schlupp, Iheanacho even are the sort of players who like they’ll break through at a level above what they eventually settle at - McAteer is one of those imo.


 

I definitely would not sell him for 5m I think you are forgetting just how good he was before his injury. He’ll play prem football at some stage.. I mean, we already have a prem team after him..  he’s still a young lad he’ll get better and he’s at the right team to do that. 
 

 

and I really don’t understand you bringing in Schluup to your point.. I mean he’s played over 200 games for a prem team. he’s had a very good career. And if I’m not mistaken, isn’t Nacho being linked to prem teams too?

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People won't like it but we'd be smart to cash in the offer is decent. I think he's done well this season but my gut instinct tells me it's a bit of a purple patch.

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moore_94

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Everton aren't going to be offering any kind of decent fee for him this month

 

They are going to be resorting to loans, frees, and very cheap players if they do actually do anything

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Stadt

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8 hours ago, MPH said:


 

I definitely would not sell him for 5m I think you are forgetting just how good he was before his injury. He’ll play prem football at some stage.. I mean, we already have a prem team after him..  he’s still a young lad he’ll get better and he’s at the right team to do that. 
 

 

and I really don’t understand you bringing in Schluup to your point.. I mean he’s played over 200 games for a prem team. he’s had a very good career. And if I’m not mistaken, isn’t Nacho being linked to prem teams too?

You aren't really taking my points on board, we'll leave it at that.

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bmt

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9 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Everton aren't going to be offering any kind of decent fee for him this month

 

They are going to be resorting to loans, frees, and very cheap players if they do actually do anything

To be fair I can see some logic in loaning him out, although only if he's going to get game time. I agree it won't be worth selling him to Everton this window.

sylofox

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16 hours ago, Phenom said:

Why would he go there? They’re ass

More to the point why would they do business with us. We want 100m off them.

LFEFox23

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12 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

People won't like it but we'd be smart to cash in the offer is decent. I think he's done well this season but my gut instinct tells me it's a bit of a purple patch.

Fully agree, unfortunately isn't going to be the next Harvey Barnes.

BenTheFox

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I don't see a standout player in Kasey but he's been useful for us this season. He's gotten himself into some very good positions and his finishing for the most part has been strong. He's also demonstrated that defensively he can be trusted in this team. He's good enough to contribute to us at this level but I'm not convinced that he's a premier league footballer. Prior to this season I didn't think I would see him get regular first team football for us and he has. Not every academy player who breaks through into our first team has to be a regular for years to come. The purpose of the academy is to make the club money, not just to supplement the first team squad. 

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Sol thewall Bamba

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For the record I don't think this will happen at all, probably agent talk. 

 

Secondly I agree that he's had a very good spell, but I would be very surprised if he breaks through at a level like KDH, Barnes etc. He'll either settle as a squad player at PL level or drop down a have a solid Championship career.

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Claudio Fannieri

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Just a thought but imagine if we cash in for £5-10m for a player who struggled on loan in league 2 last season, whilst he has done well this season, I think he may have a fairly low ceiling and if there is genuine interest, Enzo and the club might see an opportunity to do a deal and use the funds to bring in players better suited to the style and system. 

RowlattsFox

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Don't see it but you never know with Sean Dyche, he doesn't really really cast the scouting net very far. I like Kasey but don't really see him as a long term first choice player for us. 

Realist Guy In The Room

Realist Guy In The Room

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The thing with this is, whilst he's done well, he's done well in THIS side.  A side where we pretty much dominate every single game.  At a higher level where in most games, a large part of it he'll spend on the back foot, would he have anywhere near the same impact on a game?

 

I'd lean on the side of no.

 

If an offer of £5m came in (especially given Abdul isn't going to the AFCON), I think that would be decent enough to accept and free up a squad place.

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Finnegan

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On 03/01/2024 at 18:01, MPH said:


 

because he’s a very good player who has played well and scored good goals. You have to be pretty much blind to not see that.

 

He's not a "very good player." He's an alright one that possibly could still develop. 

 

If he was 18, 19 I'd think there's something quite early Harvey Barnes about him we should be nurturing but he's a 22 year old that struggles to beat his man, seems to lack a bit of creativity and has been significantly outshone by our other wide players now that the season is up and running and the team has a good grasp of their roles. 

 

He has good instincts, good movement off the ball and is an unusually composed finisher for one so inexperienced. He also grafts well defensively. I do like him. 

 

But if he's a diamond at all he's an amazingly rough one that's a long way from proving himself actually settled at this level let alone the one we're rapidly on course for. Given we've shown the ability to find three wingers in just the last window that are all better than him and all look like they have higher ceilings, the prospect of cashing in isn't exactly ridiculous. 

 

I'd love it if he kept up his goals per minute rate over his whole career and became another Leicester academy win and I promise you @Stadt would love that more than anyone. He loves an academy graduate. But it looks like a bit of a stretch atm.

 

Hopefully we loan him out to a Championship club next year that'll play him a good 30+ starts minimum and then we'll really know where he's at. 

 

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