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Leicester 'could face points deduction next season'

By ClaphamFox, in Leicester City Forum

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ts_1010

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Obviously it's all conjecture, but I don't think that our courtroom shenanigans are a massive factor. 2 reasons.

 

1. Most of that stuff, especially the recent rulings, were about the championship year. So that's the EFL that got a bit embarrassed not the PL.

 

2. Businesses will always try to find every loop hole. It's not personal we are just looking after our interests. Just like when Everton appeal the points deductions, or Man City find 80 million barrels of oil in Phil Foden's locker.

 

The PL know that. They do the same with regulations that govern how they operate.

We probably won't get a 2 point reduction in our punishment for co-operation. But that's not the end of the world.

 

The idea that they are going to get vengeance doesn't make sense. They know, and we know, that if they give us a silly deduction we will be in court again and will probably win. They have to be seen to be above that.

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AKCJ

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13 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Most discriminated? Newcastle?

 

 

 

Saudis knew what they were doing in picking the Geordies.

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bmt

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On 07/06/2024 at 09:21, whoareyaaa said:

sell the training ground to KP and we are sorted.

Rent it to KP instead, then we are good every year...

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ClaphamFox

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13 hours ago, ts_1010 said:

Obviously it's all conjecture, but I don't think that our courtroom shenanigans are a massive factor. 2 reasons.

 

1. Most of that stuff, especially the recent rulings, were about the championship year. So that's the EFL that got a bit embarrassed not the PL.

 

2. Businesses will always try to find every loop hole. It's not personal we are just looking after our interests. Just like when Everton appeal the points deductions, or Man City find 80 million barrels of oil in Phil Foden's locker.

 

The PL know that. They do the same with regulations that govern how they operate.

We probably won't get a 2 point reduction in our punishment for co-operation. But that's not the end of the world.

 

The idea that they are going to get vengeance doesn't make sense. They know, and we know, that if they give us a silly deduction we will be in court again and will probably win. They have to be seen to be above that.

All true. The other thing that those who talk of the PL 'throwing the book at us' always forget is that it is not the PL that determines the punishment - it is the independent panel that reviews the case. And so far, these panels have always imposed lower deductions than those requested by the PL. If we're not given the two-point reduction for co-operation that Forest got, I can see us appealing that on the basis that our challenges to the PL and EFL were entirely legitimate. If anything, we were doing them a favour by helping them to understand their own rules better. We should get a four-point reduction in the punishment for that ;)

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kenny

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8 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

All true. The other thing that those who talk of the PL 'throwing the book at us' always forget is that it is not the PL that determines the punishment - it is the independent panel that reviews the case. And so far, these panels have always imposed lower deductions than those requested by the PL. If we're not given the two-point reduction for co-operation that Forest got, I can see us appealing that on the basis that our challenges to the PL and EFL were entirely legitimate. If anything, we were doing them a favour by helping them to understand their own rules better. We should get a four-point reduction in the punishment for that ;)

At the independent panel we will also be making the case that the PL and EFL have attempted to punish us unfairly and that we have been mistreated as a club.

 

 

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Fox92

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45 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Most discriminated? Newcastle?

 

 

 

Newcastle fans are so deluded it's unreal and this takeover has just made them even worse.

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foxfanazer

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Just now, Fox92 said:

Newcastle fans are so deluded it's unreal and this takeover has just made them even worse.

They love their football though :ph34r:

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les-tah

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23 minutes ago, bmt said:

Rent it to KP instead, then we are good every year...

do the club or owners own the stadium is that why we cant sell that back?! That would of inflated massively over 20 or so years

brookfox

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46 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Most discriminated? Newcastle?

 

 

 

You could argue that what isn’t sustainable is losing millions and millions of pounds every year. Guess that doesn’t matter when you’re backed by a country! As the old saying goes, what’s the quickest way to become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and buy a football club!

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justfoxes

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28 minutes ago, brookfox said:

You could argue that what isn’t sustainable is losing millions and millions of pounds every year. Guess that doesn’t matter when you’re backed by a country! As the old saying goes, what’s the quickest way to become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and buy a football club!

The Premier League doesn’t have a clue its own FFP & PSR rules are just a pile of 🐕💩really only there to penalise the not so super Rich clubs but allow Chelsea to spend over £1b by flaunting other rules, but can you honestly see the EPLactually dock points or demote the like of Man City or Chelsea as these clubs are but only 2 of the biggest supported teams world wide foreign EPL broadcasting sales would plummet if they were to throw the book at these two but sod the likes of EFC LCFC NFFC ETC ETC 

The corporation is as corrupt as FIFA’s time when they were found out, the EPL Would be hour hard if Man City & Chelsea were hit hard with points deductions & demotions, so maybe the likes of the list of clubs taking legal action over this system maybe a good thing?

Sly

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Whilst this goes back and forth legally, the EPL are in a rock and hard place of their own making by not addressing how stupid the rules are and how others are breaching them.

 

If they slap Manchester City with a massive points reduction in the 25/26 for all of their shenanigans, but this season are relegated due to it, can we legally appeal? 
 

It’s a mess and they just need to abandon it quicker than the Super League fell apart. 

coolhandfox

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Legality of PL rules coming in question.

 

Going to be interesting.

 

How about coming up with clearly defined rules and punishments in collaboration with your member clubs and change the voting system, the 14 to 6 system is wrong needs to be majority vote 11 to 9.

 

 

 

 

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PhillippaT

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3 hours ago, kenny said:

At the independent panel we will also be making the case that the PL and EFL have attempted to punish us unfairly and that we have been mistreated as a club.

 

 

 

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st albans fox

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1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Legality of PL rules coming in question.

 

Going to be interesting.

 

How about coming up with clearly defined rules and punishments in collaboration with your member clubs and change the voting system, the 14 to 6 system is wrong needs to be majority vote 11 to 9.

 

with clubs having to budget and strategise for years ahead, i think you'll find that the 14/6 is to avoid sensitive issues being reversed every season on a straight majority vote.  that would be a nightmare to deal with. 

 

 

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justfoxes

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6 hours ago, bmt said:

Rent it to KP instead, then we are good every year...

For £100m a year 😉 if Man City can do it then why not ?

should sort out the Pi55 taking PSR !

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Ric Flair

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How about Liverpool make amends for allegedly tapping Trey Nyoni up and settle the transfer fee to the tune of £30m (elite talent). This bails us out of another PSR charge and then wr agree to pay them £20m + add ons for Carvalho in July.

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st albans fox

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13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

How about Liverpool make amends for allegedly tapping Trey Nyoni up and settle the transfer fee to the tune of £30m (elite talent). This bails us out of another PSR charge and then wr agree to pay them £20m + add ons for Carvalho in July.

Will be a lot of add ons ! 
apart from that I think that’s very reasonable and it would really pee off the PL and EFL 

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