Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[nnfox]

I think this Leicester job can be classed as a baptism of fire foe RVN.  If he didn't know what he was getting himself into when he signed, he should do now.  He looks a little like a rabbit caught in headlights right now.

 

His managerial career could be short lived if he doesn't get to grips with it soon.

 

He needs to choose his style.  Players' best friend or cut throat winner.   One is easy and gets results, one is hard but keeps us up.

[adejo92]

The decision to play Ward is bad, but how has he completely missed the fact of how many goals have come down our right hand side, how many goals Justin has been the sole cause of. Surely he's got access to stats, play backs of games etc.

 

He's just winging it. 

 

Looking at our squad "Oh Ward's played for Wales, he must be alright", "Oh James Justin, yeah i've heard of him, he was alright a couple of years ago" rather than looking at the finer details.

 

Absolutely no one with any form of research of knowledge would be including either Ward or Justin in our starting 11.

 

Don't even get me started with Buonanotte.

 

It's just another Lampard / Rooney type figure who's gifted jobs through their name, not managerial ability.

[Nolucklcfc]

8 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

It's just another Lampard / Rooney type figure who's gifted jobs through their name, not managerial ability.

This was my concern from the beginning. It’s still early days of course and he needs time but did he deserve the job? 

[Dr The Singh]

#bringbackcooper, all is forgiven.

 

I think his handsome looks and talk a good game has duped us.  With that brief stint at United.  We need a rebuild manager, and he is a executer, where all thinks are solid and aligned.

 

Our leadership and Top, are under qualified.

Edited 23 December 2024 by Dr The Singh

[Paninistickers]

2 hours ago, The Bear said:

go to the supporters club

Love your contributions mate, but there's clearly a huge difference between your supporters club then and ours. 

[dooflip]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Based on what? Four performances haven't been great. The West Ham game was better but even still a lack of finishing by the opposition let us off. The last two games have been dreadful and we haven't even scored a goal. 

Cooper was literally bargain bin mate.

He never looked arsed. Decisions, subs etc non existent or bizarre.

 

At least with RVN we have seen a bit of charisma and leadership, getting messages across during the game etc. Subs have been better than under cooper. I do think there has been an improvement, even if it’s a minor one.

 

The last two games have been awful. But if he had a fully fit and available squad we wouldn’t have been hammered like we were. 
And if Fatawu was fit for Brighton, he would have put away the chances that Kasey had.

 

im not for one minute saying RVN is great, or is the answer. Believe me, I don’t think he is. But I do think he’s better than cooper.

[Lionator]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

This was my concern from the beginning. It’s still early days of course and he needs time but did he deserve the job? 

In fairness, Ruud has far more coaching experience than those guys did. He’s earned his stripes. We’re a basket case club now sadly it will take someone a lot stronger than him to turn it around. We’re seeing now how good Enzo is and he still nearly messed it up here. 

[Nolucklcfc]

3 minutes ago, Lionator said:

In fairness, Ruud has far more coaching experience than those guys did. He’s earned his stripes. We’re a basket case club now sadly it will take someone a lot stronger than him to turn it around. We’re seeing now how good Enzo is and he still nearly messed it up here. 

Maybe yeah. His post match stuff just worried me a bit. He thought we played ok … I mean 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

4 hours ago, dooflip said:

I still think RVN is a better manager than Cooper.

Both were way down on my list in the summer, and RVN was low on the list when Cooper was sacked.

I still think/hope he can turn it around. He’s inherited a mess. If Ruud had been appointed in the summer with a transfer window, a fit squad at the start of the season, we would 100% be in a better position now than what we are. Cooper was the brain fart.

He's shown no more tactical sense than Cooper to date. Indeed, I reckon Cooper understood the limitations of the squad better arguably. 

[FrankieADZ]

well Corberan cant replace RVN now, hes off to Valenica

[cropstonfox]

2 hours ago, adejo92 said:

The decision to play Ward is bad, but how has he completely missed the fact of how many goals have come down our right hand side, how many goals Justin has been the sole cause of. Surely he's got access to stats, play backs of games etc.

 

He's just winging it. 

 

Looking at our squad "Oh Ward's played for Wales, he must be alright", "Oh James Justin, yeah i've heard of him, he was alright a couple of years ago" rather than looking at the finer details.

 

Absolutely no one with any form of research of knowledge would be including either Ward or Justin in our starting 11.

 

Don't even get me started with Buonanotte.

 

It's just another Lampard / Rooney type figure who's gifted jobs through their name, not managerial ability.

Agreed

Steve Cooper did it the hard way.

Via Liverpool,Swansea, Forest.He couldn't get a tune out this squad so went for the damage limitation option and stay in the game mentality

RVN has so far shown no sort of plan and we are not sure what style he favours.

He's also on a hiding to nothing with this

Collection of mediocre misfits.

One exception, -of course.

Edited 23 December 2024 by cropstonfox

[dillonpanthers87]

I just don't know what to think anymore 🥲😂

 

Cooper was not right for us, think almost all of us thought that (note I'm saying this was a widely shared opinion and not fact)

 

RVN, a gamble, but someone who has been around top managers, been a top level coach (within reason), and had/has authority (yes you can argue that is all playing career based). The mads/Ward thing has given him a curveball that otherwise we might be here with 2 wins, 1 draw 1 loss (let's assume Newcastle was a loss regardless of Ward)

 

But - the way the ward issue has been handled and the lineup the other day, the fact he still doesn't have any staff in (regardless of if the board prevented this or not) has suddenly shaken what seemed a positive start. The fixtures coming up are brutal. 

 

I want us, and him to succeed. But this twist of circumstances and poor judgement has really upped the stakes on how he navigates the next set of games. The only other thing I can say is rudkin out, we need that slogan everywhere, visually, in the stands. Top needs to feel the pressure..because looking at him shaking his head in the stands, he doesn't get it. He's not an owner, he's a custodian. 

 

 

[Guy]

Something about Ruud being manager here (without his own staff), as the equivalent of Nigel Pearson as a manager after his time with us - minus Shakey and Steve Walsh??! 

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Maybe yeah. His post match stuff just worried me a bit. He thought we played ok … I mean 

He’s being careful not to bad mouth existing players as it stands is my take on it. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

People on here need to hold their nerve, perhaps more so than they hold their beer!

[HarryDee8]

In the last 3 games, He's got a leaking defence and almost no goal threat going forwards. 

 

He's working with a hopeless situation. 

 

The January transfer window might not do anything for us

[ian__marshall]

10 hours ago, stu said:

So, you’d give him a minimum expectation of 3 points against Liverpool, Man City and Villa? 

 

All those shouting Ruud out, would you really rather spend what little pot we have in funds to get rid of him rather than using it to bring in whatever we can get in the January to plug the obvious holes we have in the first team?

Depends how you see it I suppose. My expectation of any new manager that came in was for 7 points from those first 7 games; wins versus relegation rivals West Ham and Wolves (given they were both home fixtures and struggling), with a point from one of Brighton or Newcastle. 

 

Sadly he messed up yesterday so consequently in-order to achieve that points return he needs either a win or three draws from those fixtures. I'm not saying it's a) realistic, or b) achieveable, but he's created that situation for himself with that ridiculous team selection.

 

Whilst clearly Man City are far superior to us, given their recent form (worse than ours) you'd have to say at home we should be targeting 3 points. Big ask of course, but again that fixture would have been a free hit had we done what was needed yesterday. 

 

I really hope I'm proven wrong. As mentioned stability is key in my view so I don't want change, but without a proper backroom team around him with fresh ideas I don't see how he's going to change the situation and I'm not convinced from what we've seen so far that he has enough about him to turn it around on his own.

 

The only way I can see him keeping us up is if he is massively backed in January and uses his reputation to bring in players who are levels above a relegation battle (similar to what Howe did at Newcastle when he joined). That's a very risky strategy though what with PSR and isn't a guarantee for success. Time will tell I suppose so let's see what happens. 

[HankMarvin]

36 minutes ago, HarryDee8 said:

In the last 3 games, He's got a leaking defence and almost no goal threat going forwards. 

 

He's working with a hopeless situation. 

 

The January transfer window might not do anything for us

He didn’t take over Southampton, I wouldn’t say it was hopeless when he took over.

He is meant to be an improvement, it’s been one of the shortest new managers bounces ever.

Not to mention West Ham setting a record for shots and as an away side. 
2 pastings in his last 2 games and serious red flags with the starting 11s and with Liverpool, Villa, Man City to come you wonder how much long term damage it will do to the players belief under a “new manager” if it’s 5 losses back to back 

[robski]

15 hours ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

Learning on the job with this dross (dross he had no say in) is obviously going to be difficult.

 

He needs to be judged more critically after the January transfer window, but that's not to say he should be immune to all criticism until then.

 

so allow him to bring some players in and still be a clueless novice manager.

Need to get rid of him asap 

[JimJams]

Unfortunately this is our preseason.  He's got to try and implement things and figure out his best side in games that matter.  We might be in the relegation spots come the new year, but we won't be adrift.  Then he's got a lot of work to do on a number of fronts.  Need to get the recruitment right just to stand a chance.

[Tom12345]

As I said before, fans and players were too quick to jump on the back of Cooper.

 

While there were certainly a lot of room to improvement, but there were signs that he can at least see the following:

- Ndidi cannot be relied on as a midfield pivot. He has to be used in a very limited way.

- He helped to rediscover Soumare. Looks at his resurgence.

- He saw the talents in Bounuette and used him well.

- He also signed Bilal? Although he did not yet integrate fully Bilal into the team.

- He saw our defensive problems and so he sacrificed one wing for help with defence. He couldn’t solve the Justin problem though.

 

Having said that, he continued with Faes, left Bilal on the bench and didn’t utilize Mavididi well (although see last bullet point above).

 

He was on to something but no one gave him

the trust he needed to build on. When you don’t have trust, it goes downhill fast.

 

Having said all of that, I like RVN’s winning mentality, which is hard for Cooper to match given he is not a winner like RVN.  

 

It is concerning though RVN picked Ward although I suppose he had no choice.

 

Leaving our best player (Bounuette) on the bench though is concerning.

 

Lots to improve on.

 

But let’s get behind RVN and not repeat the same as Cooper. Support him.

 

[shailen]

8 hours ago, Guy said:

Something about Ruud being manager here (without his own staff), as the equivalent of Nigel Pearson as a manager after his time with us - minus Shakey and Steve Walsh??! 

You say that but Ranieri stuck with Shakey and Walsh so its not necessary that you need to bring your own staff in. I think we need to bring in a few players in and hopefully that will lift the squad. 

[AKCJ]

16 minutes ago, shailen said:

You say that but Ranieri stuck with Shakey and Walsh so its not necessary that you need to bring your own staff in. I think we need to bring in a few players in and hopefully that will lift the squad. 

Yeah but Cooper wasn't the only one that was sacked and it was hardly like it was a happy camp before Cooper left.

[Fox92]

10 hours ago, dooflip said:

Cooper was literally bargain bin mate.

He never looked arsed. Decisions, subs etc non existent or bizarre.

 

At least with RVN we have seen a bit of charisma and leadership, getting messages across during the game etc. Subs have been better than under cooper. I do think there has been an improvement, even if it’s a minor one.

 

The last two games have been awful. But if he had a fully fit and available squad we wouldn’t have been hammered like we were. 
And if Fatawu was fit for Brighton, he would have put away the chances that Kasey had.

 

im not for one minute saying RVN is great, or is the answer. Believe me, I don’t think he is. But I do think he’s better than cooper.

If Cooper was bargain bit I hate to think what Van Nistelrooy is.

 

Glad you can see an improvement because I can't. 7 goals conceded within a week, 0 goals scored, considering one of those games was at home against one of the worse teams in the league.

 

Excuses of "if he had a fully fit squad" already. Fair enough Hermansen picked up an injury, and that is unlucky, but Van Nistelrooy has had our best outfield player, and most creative player, sat on the bench for the last two games. Fatawu has been out for weeks now and excuses of "he would have put away the chances" were never made for Cooper. 

 

As you can probably tell I have zero confidence. Last two performances have been a disgrace so I don't know where you're getting this idea of leadership from. 

[Tommy G]

2 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

If Cooper was bargain bit I hate to think what Van Nistelrooy is.

 

Glad you can see an improvement because I can't. 7 goals conceded within a week, 0 goals scored, considering one of those games was at home against one of the worse teams in the league.

 

Excuses of "if he had a fully fit squad" already. Fair enough Hermansen picked up an injury, and that is unlucky, but Van Nistelrooy has had our best outfield player, and most creative player, sat on the bench for the last two games. Fatawu has been out for weeks now and excuses of "he would have put away the chances" were never made for Cooper. 

 

As you can probably tell I have zero confidence. Last two performances have been a disgrace so I don't know where you're getting this idea of leadership from. 

Good post.

 

If anyone can spot improvements since he’s taken over then please point them out to me. 
 

His first XI on Sunday was a disgrace