Ruud out - has to go

[Lad1966]

I think we need to support RVN, it the board that’s cause this. We need the changed the the stuff behind the scenes right 1st, from the board to recruitment etc and only then will we know if RVN is the problem!

Maybe getting relegated for the 2nd time in 3 yrs might open Tops eyes!

[filbertway]

 

1 minute ago, Skidmark said:

Under Cooper i'd describe us as plucky. 
 

We definitely played for Cooper, and we were pinching points, playing until the end of the whistle.

 

There's been none of that.

Under Cooper, we got battered by Ipswich and Southampton till both of then hit the self destruct button.

 

Bournemouth missed about 3 sitters and Mads made some great saves.

 

We pinched a point v Brighton under Ruud.

 

Not sure what to make of it all to be honest

 

It's bad isn't it

 

[ithuriel]

Say what you like, squad is not up to it,  whose fault is that?

 

[SafewayFox]

3 minutes ago, Skidmark said:

Under Cooper i'd describe us as plucky. 
 

We definitely played for Cooper, and we were pinching points, playing until the end of the whistle.

 

There's been none of that.

The players definitely weren’t playing for Cooper before he got the boot.

 

Some of the revisionism on here is top level.

[Bilo]

The Cooper appointment was a huge part of our failing this season. An atrocious preseason, baffling transfer business and absolutely no identity to build on. Whatever Cooper's style was, it was so far removed not only from Maresca's but also what the club had been playing for five years that it was always going to be a catastrophic pick.

[HankMarvin]

2 minutes ago, Raj said:

Let's be honest here.

He only got the job because  we cant get anyone else decent.

No one will touch us with a barge pole.

He was flavour of the month at Man U and 2 of his wins was against us and our ever obliging inept board fell for his hype.

Dont think they will get it right next time either, anyone with any faith in the boards skill is stupid

2 wins 

2 draws 

from 11

.73 per game 

 

[Skidmark]

3 minutes ago, filbertway said:

 

Under Cooper, we got battered by Ipswich and Southampton till both of then hit the self destruct button.

 

Bournemouth missed about 3 sitters and Mads made some great saves.

 

We pinched a point v Brighton under Ruud.

 

Not sure what to make of it all to be honest

 

It's bad isn't it

 

I'm clutching at straws at best.

 

 

[Tuna]

Nathan Jones was manager for 95 days at Southampton, wonder if Ruud will beat that.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Genuinely not many of the first team squad deserve their places at all

 

i would put all bar a few on the transfer list now

 

they arent playing for the shirt

 

get rid

Edited 18 January by Bob Weasel Fox

[Paninistickers]

Just now, SafewayFox said:

The players definitely weren’t playing for Cooper before he got the boot.

 

Some of the revisionism on here is top level.

It was clear to see the players despised cooper. 

 

However, that doesn't distract from the fact RVN has been pathetic. Tactics,.team selctions,. substitutions. 

 

Same.week.in, week out. 

[Fox92]

I said weeks ago I was sceptical. He has done nothing to improve us, if anything he has made us worse.

Edited 18 January by Fox92

[Blue ROI]

Just now, Tuna said:

Nathan Jones was manager for 95 days at Southampton, wonder if Ruud will beat that.

I was thinking it could be closer to John Toshack at Wales 

[Raj]

2 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

2 wins 

2 draws 

from 11

.73 per game 

 

Was that his record at United ??

 

Feck sake that makes it even worse...hideous decision

[The_77]

10 minutes ago, trooky said:

Yes totally agree, Ruud is no better but Cooper wasn't the solution either and certainly never over achieved. 

 

He had a full squad to choose from, his own backroom staff, Mads in goal, refused to play Ricky, underused Bilal and Fatawu and played 3DMs every game

 

Signed Ayew, BDR and his piece de resistance wasting £20 plus million on Skipp. 

 

The club is where it deserves to be and this is our short to medium term future because we don't have the finances to buy better players. 

Absolutely right. 

[Happy Fox]

Ruud is a duff without any key personnel or staff we might as well go for someone who is experienced , I haven’t the foggiest who would be interested.. but someone like Benitez.

[SafewayFox]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

It was clear to see the players despised cooper. 

 

However, that doesn't distract from the fact RVN has been pathetic. Tactics,.team selctions,. substitutions. 

 

Same.week.in, week out. 

Totally agree.

 

It’s ok for us to admit that they’ve both been awful appointments but Cooper’s will have a longer lasting impact sadly.

[OnlyOneCity]

I think this was a bit of a “Hollywood” appointment, based on his 4 match.run win, 2 of which were against City! We needed an experienced manager not a learner who’s trying to learn at our . How can you take off the most exciting and creative player on the pitch and the only player actually travelling towards the opposition goal. So disappointing. Appointment made by someone only seeing a famous name and not looking at whether they have the know how to manage a team  in the relegation zone.

[CosbehFox]

Brussel is waiting by the phone while Lucy Pinder is cooking his Saturday night vegan burgers. He’s ready for it Top. You want passing, I can give you that 

[jv1]

26 minutes ago, Tuna said:

There is no debate, he's a crap appointment. Out.

Literally someone talking sense - amen to that 

[ian__marshall]

Got absolutely nothing against the bloke on a personal level, but he's not the right man for the job at this moment in time. If there's even the slightest possibility we could bring in Dyche it's a no brainier for me. We simply have to stop conceding the number of goals we have all season. If the board aren't willing to invest in a better defence, they need to bring in a manager with a track record of setting up a hard to beat team. Dyche wouldn't be pretty but he knows how to organise a defence and expects 100% from his players. At this stage I'll take unattractive football if it gives us a chance of staying in the league. With the run of fixtures between now and Wolves away, we have everything to gain as my most optimistic outlook is 5 points during the run ahead under Ruud's leadership. That would leave us having to achieve near title winning form from our remaining 5 games which being realistic isn't going to happen, so we might as well roll the dice and see what happens. 

 

Edited 18 January by ian__marshall

[J. James]

26 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Cooper had a direct involvement in constructing the squad as it currently stands 

Oh, sorry l didn't realise you were there when he specifically asked for the players, guess it would have been down to Rudkin if it was lovely Ruud.

Players are not signed in todays world purely on a managers say so, those days are gone.

 

Strangely the next target after Cooper- Ayew is probably the main reason we have the paltry total of points we have!

 

But then l suppose thats down to luck.

 

As I've said before, Cooper was a mistake, sacking him a worse one and appointing the next Rooney a total disaster.

 

For me it's a FACT that no manager could keep us up with an inept owner and a DoF who is an agents dream, and that includes the hapless Cooper who has been and was always intended to be the fall guy.

[Paninistickers]

The man played Ward. TWICE. Gross misconduct. 

 

The man still employs.Ben Jacobs - a coach who oversaw for the single worst managerial performance in our history

 

The man plays the exact same formation, week in week out and gets the exact same result, week in, week out. 

 

Finally, other than a FIFA pro licence that's also been achieved by tens of thousands of people worldwide, he has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever to do the job. 

[Vestan Pance]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

Finally, other than a FIFA pro licence that's also been achieved by tens of thousands of people worldwide, he has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever to do the job. 

What about his aura?😂

[fox in the sox]

People are asking what is the point in changing manager again. Well there are managers out there who are better than Cooper and Van Nistelrooy. We at least need to see if a better manager can do anything with these players.

[Tanya]

Rudkin oversaw our peak but under his tenure he has consigned us back being a yoyo club (at best). He must be held accountable.