Wilfred Ndidi (signed for Besiktas 9m)

[FoxinNotts]

We want you stay, we want you to staaaay, Wifred Ndidi, we want you to stay!

[DJ Barry Hammond]

On 06/07/2025 at 09:53, Wolfox said:

I think he might come good next year…. Was pretty disappointing last,  but I think with the right set up and coach he has something about him…

Hmmmm 🤨

 

See, I think Skipp’s a more likely candidate for the mutual termination free transfer in year 3 of his contract after failing to make more than 50 appearances for the club during that time situation.

 

And for reference - he’s apparently made 28 appearances for us so far! 

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

 

it’s not about losing money /making money in the longer term - it’s about this years psr numbers 

Because of psr, the below is true.   We cannot sell him this summer. 
 

 

Surely it depends what we sell him for? 

Although granted I wouldn't think we could get even half what we paid, and I assume what you mean is if he's on a 5 year contract we have a cost of £5m per year plus wage of let's say £2.5m = £7.5m.

 

If we sell does the remaining £20m transfer first count into this year? presumably offset by not paying £2.5m wages, or do we get to offset the remaining contract value of wages of £10m? So we would need to sell for either £17.5m or £10m to offset the loss?

 

Or am I looking at that wrong? 

[slymunn]

8 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Surely it depends what we sell him for? 

Although granted I wouldn't think we could get even half what we paid, and I assume what you mean is if he's on a 5 year contract we have a cost of £5m per year plus wage of let's say £2.5m = £7.5m.

 

If we sell does the remaining £20m transfer first count into this year? presumably offset by not paying £2.5m wages, or do we get to offset the remaining contract value of wages of £10m? So we would need to sell for either £17.5m or £10m to offset the loss?

 

Or am I looking at that wrong? 

 

If we say it was 25 million on a 5 year deal...he is worth 20 million now, or 5 million a year in the clubs books. 

When you sell a play the remaining value is taken into account, not the yearly money on the clubs books (or wages.)

So if we sell him for 20 million we break even. If we sell him for anything less we actually come out of it worse in a PSR sense.  

 

This is where buy cheap with potential is the best way to buy players, unless you have loads of home grown talent to sell on.

 

Below is a list that @Claudio Fannieri did regarding the players book values. This has Skipp as a 20 million signing, so 16 million left.

 

Soumare - £4.6m

Winks - £3.3m

Ndidi - Nil

Choudhury - Nil

Skipp - £16m

 

Edited 11 July 2025 by slymunn
added book values bit.

[CornwallFox]

10 minutes ago, slymunn said:

 

If we say it was 25 million on a 5 year deal...he is worth 20 million now, or 5 million a year in the clubs books. 

When you sell a play the remaining value is taken into account, not the yearly money on the clubs books (or wages.)

So if we sell him for 20 million we break even. If we sell him for anything less we actually come out of it worse in a PSR sense.  

 

This is where buy cheap with potential is the best way to buy players, unless you have loads of home grown talent to sell on.

 

Below is a list that @Claudio Fannieri did regarding the players book values. This has Skipp as a 20 million signing, so 16 million left.

 

Soumare - £4.6m

Winks - £3.3m

Ndidi - Nil

Choudhury - Nil

Skipp - £16m

 

Yeah thanks that's kinda what I was getting at. I understand he'd be a £16-20m hit in terms of the purchase cost hitting this year. 

 

But elsewhere in our accounts we would definitely save his wages from this year's calculation, offsetting the transfer cost element.

 

So my question is do we know whether the PSR rules allow you to also consider rest of contract wages as a saving, given that they do that with the transfer cost. 

 

Now it may be that nobody is sure as I think the way transfers are dealt with under PSR is fairly well known, but I'm thinking about whether there are technicalities in the rules that we aren't thinking about.

[slymunn]

Just now, CornwallFox said:

Yeah thanks that's kinda what I was getting at. I understand he'd be a £16-20m hit in terms of the purchase cost hitting this year. 

 

But elsewhere in our accounts we would definitely save his wages from this year's calculation, offsetting the transfer cost element.

 

So my question is do we know whether the PSR rules allow you to also consider rest of contract wages as a saving, given that they do that with the transfer cost. 

 

Now it may be that nobody is sure as I think the way transfers are dealt with under PSR is fairly well known, but I'm thinking about whether there are technicalities in the rules that we aren't thinking about.

You would save on his wages, but overall you would lose if you sold for much less than his book value. 

If you sold for 10 million for example, but worth 20 on the books you wouldn't make back the 10 million in wages so you lose more on PSR. 

[Lambert09]

4 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Hmmmm 🤨

 

See, I think Skipp’s a more likely candidate for the mutual termination free transfer in year 3 of his contract after failing to make more than 50 appearances for the club during that time situation.

 

And for reference - he’s apparently made 28 appearances for us so far! 

I had a mad realization while I was laying in bed last night.. if we’d sold kdh to Brighton like was originally planned… we would have got moder in who is a mile better than skipp and would have been 10-15m better off. 
 

that Brighton deal was bad but letting us pick our own replacement was a million times worse 

[Muzzy Elliot]

22 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

We want you stay, we want you to staaaay, Wifred Ndidi, we want you to stay!

Sing for yourself! 

[lcfc sheff]

Out of all the centre mids he’s the only one I’d like to stay but he’s also the only one probably sellable 

[ithuriel]

5 hours ago, lcfc sheff said:

Out of all the centre mids he’s the only one I’d like to stay but he’s also the only one probably sellable 

But what are his wages? 

If they are high then no one will touch him until he is out of contract.

[FrankieADZ]

 

[les-tah]

I see wilf going and it will be 1 in 1 out and end up replacing him with Brownhill or something which will likely match the wages.

[foxfanazer]

8 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

 

How is he only 28? Feels like he's been here for 15 years and been shot for 10 of them

[Merchant_Banker]

43 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

 

Dodgy given that they value him at 15m Euros, but he allegedly has a relase clause well below that.

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

Dodgy given that they value him at 15m Euros, but he allegedly has a relase clause well below that.

Should tell you everything you need to know about the tweet!

[slymunn]

6 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

Dodgy given that they value him at 15m Euros, but he allegedly has a relase clause well below that.

[RyCleary]

Overvalued at 15m, he’ll stay, not play and leave for free. Masterclass

[The_77]

 

1 hour ago, RyCleary said:

Overvalued at 15m, he’ll stay, not play and leave for free. Masterclass

It doesn’t say anywhere in the tweet that we value him at €15M. 

They just pulled that number from the usual site. 

 

[87fox]

https://sportwitness.co.uk/leicester-city-give-dof-permission-to-speak-to-player-list-of-transfer-suitors-keeps-growing/

 

Borussia Dortmund have been given permission by Leicester City to speak to midfielder Wilfried Ndidi about a move this summer.
 

That’s according to Africa Foot, who report that the 28-year-old is one of Dortmund’s transfer options and director of football Sebastien Kehl has been given permission to speak to the midfielder.
 

They explain that the Nigerian midfielder is being targeted by several clubs this summer and Dortmund are one of them.

A divorce between Leicester and Ndidi seems inevitable this summer after their relegation to the Championship. Several clubs have already shown interest, with the likes of Manchester United and Al-Hilal reportedly entering the race in the last few days.
 

Borussia Dortmund don’t intend to stand on the sidelines watching, though, and according to sources close to the player they are not giving up on the Leicester man. In fact, sporting director Sebastien Kehl has been given authorisation by Leicester’s management to hold discussions with the midfielder.
 

They’ve offered a five-year deal to him and a €12m offer has been submitted to Leicester. The Foxes don’t intend to sell cheaply, though, and want at least €15m.
 

That’s not a huge gap to jump and perhaps if talks between Kehl and Ndidi go well, Dortmund will increase their initial bid.

[whoareyaaa]

Should be taking 12m tbf 

[OadbyBlue]

Great, time to cash in. Fantastic move for him too.

[Pliskin]

£12m would be good business! 

[TommyK]

Get what we can. He needs to move on and we need the cash. 

[Lesta Legend]

It’s hard not to get frustrated at seeing these articles and thinking what a load of BS. Allowed them to discuss terms but still haven’t agreed fee. Supposed release clause yet we’re holding out for more (12m euros is above the quoted £9m) and yet it would be classic Rudkin to hold out for more and then fail to sell or it drags on and he agrees later anyway. 
 

I like Wilf but at his age we need to sell to recoup before we lose for nothing, which we almost did!

Edited 16 July 2025 by Lesta Legend

[TheGoldenGod]

I truly hope once again we aren't holding out for values that just end up backfiring like it did RE: Daka and Bournemouth, Hamza, Iversen etc etc. Just take the £12!