Russell Martin

[The Year Of The Fox]

2 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

Fair point, but staying down might mean we are there a long time. Best chance is to go straight back up and then use that money to invest in the right players and hopefully stay up, something that I know sounds laughable after this season. I just look at some of the teams that have been stuck in the Championship or even dropped to League 1, and don't want to become that again. 

Nah I know. Could easily easily happen 

[Danizen]

5 hours ago, oxford blue said:

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/what-russell-martin-said-when-he-was-sacked-by-southampton-fc-as-he-heads-for-leicester-city/

 

Hopefully not. So his answer to his only style of play is more athleticism and more fouls. Such a depth of strategy suggests the Board will likely wish to appoint him!

"I’m enjoying a break, it’s been a lot for 20 years. It’s my first break from football in 20 years."

 

Don't rush back, mate. See the world. 

[splinterdream]

37 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

I’d actually prefer us to stay down.
 

A complete and utter purge of our club is required. 

I don’t understand why, there is no negative to getting promoted

[Blue-fox]

5 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I don’t understand why, there is no negative to getting promoted

VAR is definitely a negative

[splinterdream]

Just now, Blue-fox said:

VAR is definitely a negative

Alright, I’ll give you that one 

[AjcW]

6 hours ago, oxford blue said:

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/what-russell-martin-said-when-he-was-sacked-by-southampton-fc-as-he-heads-for-leicester-city/

 

So his answer to his only style of play is more athleticism and more fouls. Such a depth of strategy suggests the Board will likely wish to appoint him!

In fairness have you seen the state of a Guardiola team when you take athleticism and fouls out of it? (Rodri etc...)  

 

The problem is we have neither here!  

Edited 22 May 2025 by AjcW

[FoxTimmy2]

It won't be Enzoball or even a poor mans version of that. Russell Martin is a coach playing pretend-Pep after a crash course on YouTube. No plan B, just passing drills until we gift-wrap a goal.

 

I'd genuinely rather have Mike Stowell in if that was our only other option.

[Foxdiamond]

4 hours ago, gurru991 said:

Apparently Leicester city and Birmingham city hold the record for promotions and relegations from the top flight at 13

Northampton went up and down in a very quick sequence 

[HoustonFox]

10 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Nothing makes me stop reading an article more quickly than the words By Jordan Blackwell. 

Rob Tanner? 

[kingfox]

18 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

I watched the Lineker interview back last night, he shows a fair bit of emotional intelligence and understanding of players and football, but it's so frustrating. Everything about that interview is something I can get behind APART from the playstyle.

Watched it myself last night, came away from it thinking exactly this. 
 

Very easy to warm to the guy, especially regarding his upbringing. 
 

Also the way he was aligned with Jason Wilcox at Southampton regarding younger players, it’s exactly what we need at Leicester City, and that could well be the swing that lands him the Leicester job. 
 

But then you come to his football philosophy, he said he won’t change and is far too stubborn in his ways. I just can’t take a season or more of Maresca style football on steroids, just watching endless passes between centre backs, and watching Winks or Skipp take endless touches leading to backwards and sideways passing, will yet again drive us up the wall. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

I think the board are going to pick either Martin or Dyche.....out of the two I'd rather have Dyche as most of the games under Maresca's possession based football was so dire to watch. Endless passing around with no intention of doing anything 

Edited 23 May 2025 by CrispinLA in Texas

[LVFox]

Just listened to Martins interview with Linekar.

 

He comes across as a decent, hard working bloke. Certainly better than he does in post match interviews.

 

Hopefully this time away has allowed him to analyse himself and his tactics, but he's obviously not going to change his plan at all. I still have immense reservations about him

[inckley fox]

14 hours ago, splinterdream said:

I don’t understand why, there is no negative to getting promoted

I think there is a negative to getting promoted if (a) we go up with a side built around too many players who can't do a job at top flight level, with scant resources to overhaul them, and playing a style which is unlikely to be sustainable at that level; and (b) the club can readjust to FLC budgets if they don't go up. It's often been said of teams in the past that 'they went up a year too early' - meaning that better foundations could have been built at a lower level and carried through to a higher level - and if that applies to us, I'd prefer to be patient and get it right.

 

Of course, I don't want anything to happen which leaves us in financial turmoil, and I'd love us to go up at the first time of asking if we do the right things in the short-term (though past evidence suggests that this is highly unlikely). I just think that getting the right building blocks in place, in terms of personnel and financing, should be the number one priority. I see no point in a promotion with Russell Martin as boss and Faes / Justin / Coady / Kristiansen / Soumare / Mavididi / Ayew / Reid / Daka etc. as the backbone of the team. We'd just be stretching out the vicious circle.

[davieG]

14 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Northampton went up and down in a very quick sequence 

 

On 18/05/2023 at 16:41, davieG said:

I don't think anyone beats Northampton Town Rise and Fall

 

Bottom to top and back to the bottom in 10 years.

 

Under Dave Bowen, Northampton were promoted three times in the five years 1960 to 1965. Starting the 1960–61 season in the Fourth Division, they reached the First Division in 1965–66, their only season ever in the top division of English football. They were then relegated back to the Fourth Division over the next five years, playing in the bottom tier again in 1969–70.

 

[AjcW]

8 minutes ago, LVFox said:

Just listened to Martins interview with Linekar.

 

He comes across as a decent, hard working bloke. Certainly better than he does in post match interviews.

 

Hopefully this time away has allowed him to analyse himself and his tactics, but he's obviously not going to change his plan at all. I still have immense reservations about him

I'm often surprised by managers who have time out and don't go and improve/learn.

 

I used to think Eddie Howe was a one trick pony, he spent his time out between Bournemouth and Newcastle learning how to set up a defence, now quite the contrast he strikes me as one of the most sensible managers around, tweaking styles to suit oppositions, and much much better defensively.

 

If Martin comes back and doesn't at least look to implement some kind of "here's when you're allowed to clear your lines" strategy, at the very least, then he doesn't deserve more chances.

 

I watched the Lineker interview too, there's moments of hope, but they're often contredicted minutes later. He sounds like really the only change he wants to make is to stick to 4-2-3-1, rather than 6 or 7 formations he used in the Champ and this season in the prem. So there wasn't enough hints at style of play, it was more him doubling down and saying he needs to stick to his guns.

 

 

[LVFox]

6 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I'm often surprised by managers who have time out and don't go and improve/learn.

 

I used to think Eddie Howe was a one trick pony, he spent his time out between Bournemouth and Newcastle learning how to set up a defence, now quite the contrast he strikes me as one of the most sensible managers around, tweaking styles to suit oppositions, and much much better defensively.

 

If Martin comes back and doesn't at least look to implement some kind of "here's when you're allowed to clear your lines" strategy, at the very least, then he doesn't deserve more chances.

 

I watched the Lineker interview too, there's moments of hope, but they're often contredicted minutes later. He sounds like really the only change he wants to make is to stick to 4-2-3-1, rather than 6 or 7 formations he used in the Champ and this season in the prem. So there wasn't enough hints at style of play, it was more him doubling down and saying he needs to stick to his guns.

 

 

Completely agree with you on the Howe comparison. I think whoever gets Martin next probably gets the best version of him, similar to how Newcastle have with Howe.

 

I think Martin is just too far wedded to that style to ever be anywhere near a relegation battle

[gurru991]

15 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Northampton went up and down in a very quick sequence 

1965 Promoted to Division One

1966 Relegated to Division Two

1967 Relegated to Division Three

1969 Relegated to Division Four

[Footballwipe]

He'll get zero honeymoon period and zero shrift.

 

I can already hear the annoyance and antagonism in the kop when we're losing at home to Preston in mid-October, lying in 8th place and trying to play the ball out from the back. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

43 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

1965 Promoted to Division One

1966 Relegated to Division Two

1967 Relegated to Division Three

1969 Relegated to Division Four

 

[Suzie the Fox]

Just bloody no... 

[VLC86]

56 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

He'll get zero honeymoon period and zero shrift.

 

I can already hear the annoyance and antagonism in the kop when we're losing at home to Preston in mid-October, lying in 8th place and trying to play the ball out from the back. 

I know this bit is hypothetical, but if he comes in and manages to get us 8th in October and rebuild our squad, I think I would take it at the minute.

[murphy]

6 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

I know this bit is hypothetical, but if he comes in and manages to get us 8th in October and rebuild our squad, I think I would take it at the minute.

You've got to be kidding.  We'll have one of the best squads in the championship next year.   I fully expect to see HMS Piss The League making another voyage, regardless of who is manager. 

 

 

 

Edited 23 May 2025 by murphy

[CosbehFox]

5 hours ago, kingfox said:

Watched it myself last night, came away from it thinking exactly this. 
 

Very easy to warm to the guy, especially regarding his upbringing. 
 

Also the way he was aligned with Jason Wilcox at Southampton regarding younger players, it’s exactly what we need at Leicester City, and that could well be the swing that lands him the Leicester job. 
 

But then you come to his football philosophy, he said he won’t change and is far too stubborn in his ways. I just can’t take a season or more of Maresca style football on steroids, just watching endless passes between centre backs, and watching Winks or Skipp take endless touches leading to backwards and sideways passing, will yet again drive us up the wall. 

Half of the interview is like listening to someone with the ethos of a Pearson, the second half is someone trying to be Rodgers. Even down to working abroad line - and his style being non-British. 

[fox_up_north]

Hmmmm interview with our Gary after being linked....yep, he's coming. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gurru991]

4 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

I think the board are going to pick either Martin or Dyche.....out of the two I'd rather have Dyche as most of the games under Maresca's possession based football was so dire to watch. Endless passing around with no intention of doing anything 

Choosing between Martin and Dyche is like being asked if you would rather be kicked in the left nut or kicked in the right nut