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Interesting that usually when we announce a manager leaving it is followed by the sentence the process to identify and appoint our new manager will now commence ……today that wasn’t said which makes me think it is done snd dusted and will be announced by Tuesday 

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Everywhere you look there's Notts Forest fans banging on about Cooper and hoping that we go into admin and get relegated. A bit odd considering we're not rivals.

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10 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Absolute Bullshit 

Great argument, which part was BS? I suppose you thought his team selections and tactics were Tops fault LOL

 

3 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

This is funny

Another great argument, there wasnt much fun reading the hatred towards Cooper and the excitement when RVN arrived. What RVN did, breaking all sorts of records for the wrong reasons is quite scary when you read it. A couple of wins against Southampton and Ipswich wont mask his horrendous record. 

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2 minutes ago, Analysethis said:

Great argument, which part was BS? I suppose you thought his team selections and tactics were Tops fault LOL

 

Another great argument, there wasnt much fun reading the hatred towards Cooper and the excitement when RVN arrived. What RVN did, breaking all sorts of records for the wrong reasons is quite scary when you read it. A couple of wins against Southampton and Ipswich wont mask his horrendous record. 

The appointment of Cooper was the end of the season, even before we got Cooper we was favorites for relegation.

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As some others have said, statistically one of our worst ever Managers, but I surprisingly have no ill feelings towards him. 

I think many of us were excited about the 'unknown factor' and I thought the players might respond well to playing for such a Premier League legend. 

Unfortunately, the unknown factor turned out to be, RVN just isn't a very good Manager at all. His stubbornness to play certain players and ostracise others, whilst we were losing each week, was inexcusable. To be fair to him, I don't think anyone without signings in January, could have saved this team from relegation. RVN just made it that bit more likely we would go down. Hope he finds himself as a pundit or even an Assistant Manager, but I cannot see him becoming a success at a high level in Management. 

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28 minutes ago, Analysethis said:

So many in here were foaming at the mouth at Steve Cooper and were begging for his sacking, and when this messiah came in many of the same faces were talking about what an excellent appointment RVN was. He was a shambles for us and to me virtually any other manager (linked to us over the last 12 months) would have kept us up.

 

Shockingly the hatred has gone to the owner instead when RVN should have had all the shite thrown at him. His tactics were horrible, his team selections even worse, his motivation non-existent and he walked around like he was looking forward to his pay day. There was zero fight from him.  The fact he waited so long to blood some youngsters and carried on playing players who wanted out like Soumare and Kristensen who spent much of there careers at our club on loan typifies how clueless this bloke is.

 

He made Maresca look like Sir Alex

 

Good riddance to the worst manager in our history.

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Why should the owner not face criticism? He was the one who championed RVN's appointment in the first place. He made the decision to sack Cooper. If you were so sure from the beginning that RVN would be a failure and that virtually anyone else would have kept us up, why should the person ultimately in charge of the club – with all of the resources, data, statistics and institutional knowledge that comes with owning a Premier League football club – be exempt from the supporters' ire?

I'm not saying RVN was anything other than terrible for us, but that if someone so unfit for the job can be appointed and last 7 months in the role (2 months of which being after relegation was confirmed), then surely the problem is bigger than the chap in the dugout.

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29 minutes ago, Analysethis said:

So many in here were foaming at the mouth at Steve Cooper and were begging for his sacking, and when this messiah came in many of the same faces were talking about what an excellent appointment RVN was. He was a shambles for us and to me virtually any other manager (linked to us over the last 12 months) would have kept us up.

 

Shockingly the hatred has gone to the owner instead when RVN should have had all the shite thrown at him. His tactics were horrible, his team selections even worse, his motivation non-existent and he walked around like he was looking forward to his pay day. There was zero fight from him.  The fact he waited so long to blood some youngsters and carried on playing players who wanted out like Soumare and Kristensen who spent much of there careers at our club on loan typifies how clueless this bloke is.

 

He made Maresca look like Sir Alex

 

Good riddance to the worst manager in our history.

How many times? 

 

The fact that RVN was a terrible manager doesn't mean that Cooper was not also a terrible manager and vice versa. Those two things can both be true. 

 

That said I don't think there is anyone alive that Could have even taken us to the last day let alone have staved off relegation, so I think you lose a bit of credibility by suggesting that virtually any other manager could. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, murphy said:

How many times? 

 

The fact that RVN was a terrible manager doesn't mean that Cooper was not also a terrible manager and vice versa. Those two things can both be true. 

 

That said I don't think there is anyone alive that Could have even taken us to the last day let alone have staved off relegation, so I think you lose a bit of credibility by suggesting that virtually any other manager could. 

 

 

I would love to know the manager that would have kept us up after appointment Cooper 

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I don't think either RVN or Cooper would have kept us up but i felt a lot less dislike towards Cooper for some reason. Perhaps there was still some form of hope with him for no other reason than there being a good proportion of the season left.

 

I think RVN took on a sinking ship.....and filled it with lead.

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30 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I don't think either RVN or Cooper would have kept us up but i felt a lot less dislike towards Cooper for some reason. Perhaps there was still some form of hope with him for no other reason than there being a good proportion of the season left.

 

I think RVN took on a sinking ship.....and filled it with lead.

Players had downed tools that's why he got sacked.

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2 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Interesting that usually when we announce a manager leaving it is followed by the sentence the process to identify and appoint our new manager will now commence ……today that wasn’t said which makes me think it is done snd dusted and will be announced by Tuesday 

I reckon that’s what they want you to think when in fact they’ve done fxck all. 

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1 hour ago, hackneyfox said:

You not watch any of our Champioship games?

Sometimes it's not just about performance, it's about what they represent.

 

I dont want to see players like Winks and Vestergaard who dont respect the badge and who are collecting ridiculous wages wear the shirt next season.

 

Also Winks's performance level dropped significantly at the tail end of the championship season and looked out of depth against QPR this season despite us winning comfortably. There's no guarantee he will play with the same form he had at the start of the 23/24 season.

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14 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

14 matches from 15 games this season we scored under Cooper including cup.

Compared to 16 blanks in 26 games under RVN.

 

If little was created under Cooper how do you describe RVN attacking prowess?

 

 

Strikers being clinical under Cooper whereas they couldn't hit a barn door under Ruud.

 

Both managers created over 1 xG in around 40% of their games (and only Cooper had the privilege of a pre-season and playing against two newly promoted teams who had red cards).

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Ruud unfortunately became another manager who was let down/misled by the board. However, this doesn't negate from his own performance as manager during the six months in charge last season. The players also need to take a huge amount of the responsibility for relegation, Cooper seemingly couldn't get them on side but then they proceeded to get even worse under a new manager. 

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