Martin Out

[DezFox]

13 minutes ago, Bfaptu said:

Brilliant send off from the fans today.

 

He'll be gone by Monday.

He will not be gone at all. He is here for a while yet. Do you not know our owners haha 

[ZenPublisher]

22 minutes ago, nnfox said:

I think maybe he's just on a bad run.

…that’s lasted a year or two now! 😂

[Finnegan]

He won't be sacked unless a potential buyer encourages it or we're in the relegation zone. 

 

We pretty much can't afford to sack him. 

 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Some of the play especially in the 1st half

was excellent but we have to be able to be flexible in our approach and mix it up when needed. RM is too stubborn and rigid in his mindset, tactical flexibility is a strength not a weakness. 

[Chelmofox]

1 minute ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Some of the play especially in the 1st half

was excellent but we have to be able to be flexible in our approach and mix it up when needed. RM is too stubborn and rigid in his mindset, tactical flexibility is a strength not a weakness. 

Its not. Its mostly overplayed and unnecessary, and often completely dangerous. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Just now, Finnegan said:

He won't be sacked unless a potential buyer encourages it or we're in the relegation zone. 

 

We pretty much can't afford to sack him. 

 

Agreed, even on best case scenario if his termination clause is 12 months money and he is on £20k per week then that is a million quid we need to find and then there will be his staff, so we could be looking at a total of £1.5m- 2m not a sum of money the club will have available. Only way he goes is if the incoming owners want it and fund it or if results are that poor that it is starting to have a detrimental impact on a potential sale 

[The Year Of The Fox]

5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

He won't be sacked unless a potential buyer encourages it or we're in the relegation zone. 

 

We pretty much can't afford to sack him. 

 

Are you enjoying our playing out from the back? It’s the way to be isn’t it? 

[Claudio Fannieri]

3 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Its not. Its mostly overplayed and unnecessary, and often completely dangerous. 

Yes it was, we created numerous good chances through good play. 

[foxtillidrop]

We should be dying to hold on to 3 points. Someone explain how we keep folding time after time, year after year - it is making me physically and mentally sick

[Tuna]

19 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

You have too much faith in our board, I’m afraid. They’ll sack him without a replacement lined up once promotion / staying up is almost impossible. 

Obligatory two games with Kingy in charge as caretaker as well.

[Chelmofox]

2 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Yes it was, we created numerous good chances through good play. 

We create good chances because we have better players. The system actually makes it harder. More direct and agressive we will create even more and overplay less. 
 

Your post is just like Madders post from a few seasons ago. 

[mod hero]

We’ve got 3 weeks off now so they will sack him after the first league game back. 
 

It’s what they do

[Tommy Fresh]

6 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Are you enjoying our playing out from the back? It’s the way to be isn’t it? 

Pretty sure the argument has always been if you have the players to do so

[phoneticerror]

7 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Yes it was, we created numerous good chances through good play. 

I quite enjoyed the first half. It felt like things were starting to click a little. Not world beating football, but look at our squad. We easily got the ball into good attacking positions but squandered a couple of chances.

 

However RM did the usual… poor subs, bad game management, lost the lead through stubbornness/lack of ideas. The first half is then irrelevant if you can’t grind a 90 min performance.

 

Even if we go on a winning run, we aren’t getting promoted this season. We need new ownership and new management before that happens.

Edited 1 hour ago by phoneticerror

[Chelmofox]

1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Pretty sure the argument has always been if you have the players to do so

Russell Martin has never proved the players exist to master his system. It’s another level of nonsense and nothing like the possession based systems you see elsewhere. 

[waddadamadda]

There’s something so incredibly unlikeable about him and I simply can’t warm to him.

 

[Tommy Fresh]

Just now, Chelmofox said:

Russell Martin has never proved the players exist to master his system. It’s another level of nonsense and nothing like the possession based systems you see elsewhere. 

We're not just on about Martin with the point he's making though

[The Year Of The Fox]

4 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Pretty sure the argument has always been if you have the players to do so

Irrespective it always leads to more chances conceded than created 

 

Just because Finnegan can use long words doesn’t make him correct 

[Foxdiamond]

Every match seems to end like a damp squib 

[Vowels]

He's just all types of wrong; like pouring gravy on a fish or wrapping your feet in bacon as makeshift shoes.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 minute ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Irrespective it always leads to more chances conceded than created 

 

Just because Finnegan can use long words doesn’t make him correct 

Feel free to share the statistics then to prove your point man.

 

Martin's possession style is crap anyway, and he doesn't have the defenders or a goalkeeper capable of making it not a complete shit show

Edited 1 hour ago by Tommy Fresh

[Claudio Fannieri]

2 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

We create good chances because we have better players. The system actually makes it harder. More direct and agressive we will create even more and overplay less. 
 

Your post is just like Madders post from a few seasons ago. 

No it isn’t, I just recognise that at times his play can be effective, I didn’t want him appointed however I am not blinkered or have that much tunnel vision to not give credit when some of the stuff he coaches works.

 

First half we opened them up on numerous occasions, and could/should have been out of sight, however 2nd half the goal we gifted them and the couple of other chances they fashioned from us over playing show the flaws of his philosophy and style. There is good and bad with him and both evident today. 
 

I would like to see more tactical flexibility from him, would be good to see a plan B which we can switch to at times to capitalise in certain situations and circumstances like today. 
 

Will he survive here I don’t think he will because of his stubbornness to stick to plan A but I am big enough to say at times when plan A is executed it can be effective and very good to watch. Our goal today was a superb move . 

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Awful performance 

 

Barnsley had more grit than us and that showed massively 

 

Martin OUT

[RumbleFox]

It’s almost like he hasn’t been an absolute failure every other be place he has been. We’re just a meme at this point. 

[Vowels]

His job is to get good football results and get us promoted.

 

Things like the process, the possession stats, the pretty one-touch stuff etc can contribute to that end goal; but he must be judged by the results. The results have been very disappointing.

 

I suppose the positive is that we don't play again for a while. So let's drink to that and all have a choc ice.

Edited 1 hour ago by Vowels
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