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Posted
2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

What's changing exactly? We've got another manager in who is obsessed with possession football for Top's continued vanity project. We're loaning players from clubs 2 divisions above us who not long ago we were lightyears ahead of and the clubs finances are in the toilet

 

The only good thing that's happening is we've got rid of about 70% of the talentless leeches who have helped ruin us over the last few years meaning we're actually gonna be forced to play our youngsters who haven't had a look in

Ooh look you being a KPFC fan with your positivity. 😏
 

Getting rid of those players, and hopefully more will follow, is a massive turn around compared to the last 2 seasons.

 

Small steps

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Posted
9 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Where have I defended them?

 We are about to start a new season and most on here seem reasonably positive about the moves the club are making.

 

Some of you just can’t stop whining and looking for faults whatever happens.

 

Things are shite but try but look to be improving, try and take something positive from that, you may actually enjoy this season.

Hopefully

Nothing wrong with looking for faults even during success. That's what separates the best from the rest.

 

The biggest gripe most fans have is that positive changes have only been made when it's too late, reactive rather than proactive. Have we been in a worse position? Definitely. Have we been in a better position? Yes, very recently. People are rightly annoyed at that being destroyed so quickly and easily. And importantly, completely avoidable.

 

I am sort of positive this season but we have a long way to go to rebuild even a part of where we were 5/10 years ago.

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Posted
27 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

All I would say to those celebrating the Club being put up for sale, be careful what you wish for.

 

I wished for the club to be put up for sale but I'll be careful in my celebration 

Posted
54 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

All I would say to those celebrating the Club being put up for sale, be careful what you wish for.

I was being careful what I was wishing for when I wanted Steve Cooper out - we were in League One once, after all - and this is where it's gotten us.

 

A genuine question - how much worse does it need to get before you'll admit that it's not 'The Family' that ran the club well, but one man who is sadly no longer with us.

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Posted

If you were a prospective owner, looking for a club with profile and planning the next 10 years, we have a lot going for us in terms of investment which is not required -  to build a new stadium, training ground to our level could cost a new owner at another club upwards of 500m quid.

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Last set of accounts - £53m in outstanding transfer fees.

And weve since spent about 3 pounds and sold over 100m.

Posted

I assume the price quoted in media is enterprise value of club (I.e. value with debt)

 

The equity value (Top’s share) is that deducted by debt. My guess is there could be anywhere from 80-150m of debt (Macquarie, transfer fees and next two years of future losses)

Posted
3 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

You know Mike Ashley will be sniffing

He’d certainly be better than Top, whatever people say about Ashley he’s a good businessman, he’s saved thousands of high street jobs and turned those companies around, he also put Newcastle in a good position to sell. He’s a bit of a **** but sometimes as a businessman you have to be. I’m sure he’d probably rather a company in administration, it’s a lot cheaper. He’d certainly make the club operate sustainably instead of on a wing and a prayer. 

Posted
1 hour ago, CL Fox said:

And weve since spent about 3 pounds and sold over 100m.

Doesn't mean we have paid that off, the income has generally be used to cover operational losses.

 

We will have a better idea once the next set of accounts are released.

Posted
Just now, Foxin_Mad said:

He’d certainly be better than Top, whatever people say about Ashley he’s a good businessman, he’s saved thousands of high street jobs and turned those companies around, he also put Newcastle in a good position to sell. He’s a bit of a **** but sometimes as a businessman you have to be. I’m sure he’d probably rather a company in administration, it’s a lot cheaper. He’d certainly make the club operate sustainably instead of on a wing and a prayer. 

Think you need to talk to some Newcastle fans if you think he's a good idea.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Think you need to talk to some Newcastle fans if you think he's a good idea.

But Newcastle are a sustainable Premier League club that has a lot of revenue. The Newcastle fans are upset with the current lot. They want to be challenging at the top of the Premier League but PSR won’t allow that for them or Villa. They didn’t like him because they perceived they should spend lots of money but he ran them as a business. 
 

Anyone who has a proper business model is going to be better than Mr Polo

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Posted
42 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Think you need to talk to some Newcastle fans if you think he's a good idea.

Newcastle’s fan base is notoriously entitled, we could do a lot worse than Ashley, come to that we are doing a lot worse.

 

That said, I think he’s busy enough growing the Frasers Group, they’re buying up fashion retailers like….. well like they’re going out of fashion.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Foxmeister said:

Newcastle’s fan base is notoriously entitled, we could do a lot worse than Ashley, come to that we are doing a lot worse.

 

That said, I think he’s busy enough growing the Frasers Group, they’re buying up fashion retailers like….. well like they’re going out of fashion.

Fox leisure??? 

Posted
54 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Doesn't mean we have paid that off, the income has generally be used to cover operational losses.

 

We will have a better idea once the next set of accounts are released.

We're 18 months on. It'll definitely be significantly less than that.

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, David Hankey said:

All I would say to those celebrating the Club being put up for sale, be careful what you wish for.

Good point, 😂

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