The "do they mean us?" thread

[mozartfox]

8 hours ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

SLB

I still chuckle today about your post quoting this wonderful ditty    Truly magnificent.

[Koke]

There's a paywall behind this but I can predict the shit written.

 

 

[Guest ttfn]

I thought Leroy Rosenior was good on us in today's Totally Football Show. A bit reductive around the players "running more" and no analysis of the crap football to date this season but understood and articulated Okazaki's role well as well as Ndidi's strengths and weaknesses.

[Corky]

1 hour ago, Koke said:

There's a paywall behind this but I can predict the shit written.

 

 

Usual stuff about English managers not being given a chance from the little you can read.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

3 hours ago, mozartfox said:

I still chuckle today about your post quoting this wonderful ditty    Truly magnificent.

 The day SLB can't be placed under any comment is the end of Foxes Talk 

[davieG]

3 hours ago, Koke said:

There's a paywall behind this but I can predict the shit written.

 

 

Michael Appleton may look like someone who has just ejected Ben Stokes from a Bristol night spot. But that should not detract from the Leicester City stand-in’s very obvious abilities as a football manager. Young, innovative, talented, this is a coach who has exactly the qualities which would make him ideal to become the new boss at the Kingpower Stadium.

The sad truth, however, is that those very qualities that make him such a compelling candidate are the reason why he probably won’t be getting the job.

One thing is for sure: English football badly needs Appleton to be promoted. There are just four English managers working in the Premier League: Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe, Paul Clement and Roy Hodgson. As an indictment of our game, the fact that only a fifth of the top flight is managed by local talent is as telling as putting a biscuit salesman in charge of the FA.

 

In Spain only four La Liga clubs aren’t managed by Spaniards; 17 of 20 Serie A clubs are managed by Italians. Appointing Appleton would send a significant signal to those trying to progress in the profession, that being English does not put you at the back of the line when it comes to handing out the top jobs.

But Leicester are not in the business of promoting the wider English game. The club’s interest is far more parochial. What they need is someone who can deliver a winning team.

 

Appleton, however, could do that. As he demonstrated in his first outing as caretaker on Saturday, he is someone who knows precisely how to make players respond. The performance at the Liberty Stadium of Riyad Mahrez, the player who drove the club to the title in 2016 and who has been largely missing ever since, was indicative. The winger looked revitalised under Appleton’s instruction, running the game, single-handedly outflanking and out-witting Swansea.

You can understand why Mahrez decided to perform: Appleton is not the kind of person you would be advised to ignore. He has the natural authority that comes from possessing the most uncompromising physical features this side of Roy Keane. But there is more to him than a terrifying scowl and forearms the size of steel girders.

As well as a shrewd man-manager, he is a fine tactician, able to quickly and decisively diagnose issues and correct them. On the touchline he doesn’t panic or micro-manage, he speedily delivers intelligible instruction. His abilities did not diminish even as he found himself at a succession of basket case clubs early on in his career.

 

Plus he is superb at developing players. At Oxford United he progressed the careers of youngsters cast adrift by Premier League clubs, in the process accruing sizeable transfer fees. Kemar Roofe, now at Leeds, John Lundstram, now at Sheffield United and Jonjoe Kenny, now back at Everton: the list of those he improved is impressive. Given time he could do something that has not happened for years at Leicester: bring on one of their own. In every sense, Appleton is a man for the future.

It won’t happen, of course. Because Leicester’s board appear to be motivated by something far more persuasive than logic: fashion. What they want is a big name, a manager who will help them sell shirts in Thailand, not bring through youngsters from the academy. What they want is someone their business contacts in the Far East have heard of, not someone so gym-honed he appears to have had an accident with a bicycle pump.

The truth is at Leicester, as in every modern football club boardroom, they want short cuts. They don’t want to invest in the future, they want it now. Actually, they want it sooner than that.

[CosbehFox]

2 hours ago, ttfn said:

I thought Leroy Rosenior was good on us in today's Totally Football Show. A bit reductive around the players "running more" and no analysis of the crap football to date this season but understood and articulated Okazaki's role well as well as Ndidi's strengths and weaknesses.

Haven't got to us in it yet but I'm still laughing my arse off at the bitter Forest fan who pretty much hates modern football because they are shite. Admitted hating Leicester and thinks Eric Lichaj is a good player 

Edited 23 October 2017 by Cardiff_Fox

[Dan LCFC]

On 10/20/2017 at 17:29, Corky said:

Leicester's owners seem to think that just because they won the league a couple of years ago, they have the divine right to be up there at the top of the table.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41682565

 

From another old mate in Lawrenson. Disagree with the sacking(s) all you want but stop this utter bollocks about us expecting to be in the top four. Tit.

Isn't he same bloke who has Liverpool unbeaten for about four years? ****ing joke again. Zero credentials. Gobshite.

[Stadt]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

Michael Appleton may look like someone who has just ejected Ben Stokes from a Bristol night spot. But that should not detract from the Leicester City stand-in’s very obvious abilities as a football manager. Young, innovative, talented, this is a coach who has exactly the qualities which would make him ideal to become the new boss at the Kingpower Stadium.

...

That article seems to forget we just sacked an English manager. I like Appleton but he’s had one decent spell at a club in his mangeial career, in League One nonetheless. 

I’m not the biggest fan of our owners but this article is typically cliche about foreign owners, if they were so concerned about a big name “to sell shirts in Thailand” (who the **** gets a manager’s name on a shirt?) Shakey wouldn’t have got the job. They wouldn’t have appointed Nige either.  Our owners do like a big name probably too much but still they’re pragmatic enough to know that’s it not always best.

 

If Appleton was as good as the gushing implies then he wouldn’t have left Oxford to take up the assistant manager post.

[Dan LCFC]

4 hours ago, davieG said:

Michael Appleton may look like someone who has just ejected Ben Stokes from a Bristol night spot. But that should not detract from the Leicester City stand-in’s very obvious abilities as a football manager. Young, innovative, talented, this is a coach who has exactly the qualities which would make him ideal to become the new boss at the Kingpower Stadium.

The sad truth, however, is that those very qualities that make him such a compelling candidate are the reason why he probably won’t be getting the job.

One thing is for sure: English football badly needs Appleton to be promoted. There are just four English managers working in the Premier League: Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe, Paul Clement and Roy Hodgson. As an indictment of our game, the fact that only a fifth of the top flight is managed by local talent is as telling as putting a biscuit salesman in charge of the FA.

 

In Spain only four La Liga clubs aren’t managed by Spaniards; 17 of 20 Serie A clubs are managed by Italians. Appointing Appleton would send a significant signal to those trying to progress in the profession, that being English does not put you at the back of the line when it comes to handing out the top jobs.

But Leicester are not in the business of promoting the wider English game. The club’s interest is far more parochial. What they need is someone who can deliver a winning team.

 

Appleton, however, could do that. As he demonstrated in his first outing as caretaker on Saturday, he is someone who knows precisely how to make players respond. The performance at the Liberty Stadium of Riyad Mahrez, the player who drove the club to the title in 2016 and who has been largely missing ever since, was indicative. The winger looked revitalised under Appleton’s instruction, running the game, single-handedly outflanking and out-witting Swansea.

You can understand why Mahrez decided to perform: Appleton is not the kind of person you would be advised to ignore. He has the natural authority that comes from possessing the most uncompromising physical features this side of Roy Keane. But there is more to him than a terrifying scowl and forearms the size of steel girders.

As well as a shrewd man-manager, he is a fine tactician, able to quickly and decisively diagnose issues and correct them. On the touchline he doesn’t panic or micro-manage, he speedily delivers intelligible instruction. His abilities did not diminish even as he found himself at a succession of basket case clubs early on in his career.

 

Plus he is superb at developing players. At Oxford United he progressed the careers of youngsters cast adrift by Premier League clubs, in the process accruing sizeable transfer fees. Kemar Roofe, now at Leeds, John Lundstram, now at Sheffield United and Jonjoe Kenny, now back at Everton: the list of those he improved is impressive. Given time he could do something that has not happened for years at Leicester: bring on one of their own. In every sense, Appleton is a man for the future.

It won’t happen, of course. Because Leicester’s board appear to be motivated by something far more persuasive than logic: fashion. What they want is a big name, a manager who will help them sell shirts in Thailand, not bring through youngsters from the academy. What they want is someone their business contacts in the Far East have heard of, not someone so gym-honed he appears to have had an accident with a bicycle pump.

The truth is at Leicester, as in every modern football club boardroom, they want short cuts. They don’t want to invest in the future, they want it now. Actually, they want it sooner than that.

 

We have literally just had an English manager. Go and blast one of your beloved top clubs you vermin. I don't think any of the 'top 7' have had an English manager since Spurs had Redknapp, and when before then? Genuinely can't remember.

 

How people can't see through this is baffling. It's a complete cancer on the sport.

[Gerard]

12 hours ago, davieG said:

Michael Appleton may look like someone who has just ejected Ben Stokes from a Bristol night spot. But that should not detract from the Leicester City stand-in’s very obvious abilities as a football manager. Young, innovative, talented, this is a coach who has exactly the qualities which would make him ideal to become the new boss at the Kingpower Stadium.

The sad truth, however, is that those very qualities that make him such a compelling candidate are the reason why he probably won’t be getting the job.

One thing is for sure: English football badly needs Appleton to be promoted. There are just four English managers working in the Premier League: Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe, Paul Clement and Roy Hodgson. As an indictment of our game, the fact that only a fifth of the top flight is managed by local talent is as telling as putting a biscuit salesman in charge of the FA.

 

In Spain only four La Liga clubs aren’t managed by Spaniards; 17 of 20 Serie A clubs are managed by Italians. Appointing Appleton would send a significant signal to those trying to progress in the profession, that being English does not put you at the back of the line when it comes to handing out the top jobs.

But Leicester are not in the business of promoting the wider English game. The club’s interest is far more parochial. What they need is someone who can deliver a winning team.

 

Appleton, however, could do that. As he demonstrated in his first outing as caretaker on Saturday, he is someone who knows precisely how to make players respond. The performance at the Liberty Stadium of Riyad Mahrez, the player who drove the club to the title in 2016 and who has been largely missing ever since, was indicative. The winger looked revitalised under Appleton’s instruction, running the game, single-handedly outflanking and out-witting Swansea.

You can understand why Mahrez decided to perform: Appleton is not the kind of person you would be advised to ignore. He has the natural authority that comes from possessing the most uncompromising physical features this side of Roy Keane. But there is more to him than a terrifying scowl and forearms the size of steel girders.

As well as a shrewd man-manager, he is a fine tactician, able to quickly and decisively diagnose issues and correct them. On the touchline he doesn’t panic or micro-manage, he speedily delivers intelligible instruction. His abilities did not diminish even as he found himself at a succession of basket case clubs early on in his career.

 

Plus he is superb at developing players. At Oxford United he progressed the careers of youngsters cast adrift by Premier League clubs, in the process accruing sizeable transfer fees. Kemar Roofe, now at Leeds, John Lundstram, now at Sheffield United and Jonjoe Kenny, now back at Everton: the list of those he improved is impressive. Given time he could do something that has not happened for years at Leicester: bring on one of their own. In every sense, Appleton is a man for the future.

It won’t happen, of course. Because Leicester’s board appear to be motivated by something far more persuasive than logic: fashion. What they want is a big name, a manager who will help them sell shirts in Thailand, not bring through youngsters from the academy. What they want is someone their business contacts in the Far East have heard of, not someone so gym-honed he appears to have had an accident with a bicycle pump.

The truth is at Leicester, as in every modern football club boardroom, they want short cuts. They don’t want to invest in the future, they want it now. Actually, they want it sooner than that.

 

What an embarrassingly awful article. Just dreadful, I'd suggest the Telegraph get a foreign journalist and relegate this author to the Groby Gazette if this is the best English journalists can come up with.

[NZ_Foxile]

12 hours ago, davieG said:

Michael Appleton may look like someone who has just ejected Ben Stokes from a Bristol night spot. But that should not detract from the Leicester City stand-in’s very obvious abilities as a football manager. Young, innovative, talented, this is a coach who has exactly the qualities which would make him ideal to become the new boss at the Kingpower Stadium.

The sad truth, however, is that those very qualities that make him such a compelling candidate are the reason why he probably won’t be getting the job.

One thing is for sure: English football badly needs Appleton to be promoted. There are just four English managers working in the Premier League: Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe, Paul Clement and Roy Hodgson. As an indictment of our game, the fact that only a fifth of the top flight is managed by local talent is as telling as putting a biscuit salesman in charge of the FA.

 

In Spain only four La Liga clubs aren’t managed by Spaniards; 17 of 20 Serie A clubs are managed by Italians. Appointing Appleton would send a significant signal to those trying to progress in the profession, that being English does not put you at the back of the line when it comes to handing out the top jobs.

But Leicester are not in the business of promoting the wider English game. The club’s interest is far more parochial. What they need is someone who can deliver a winning team.

 

Appleton, however, could do that. As he demonstrated in his first outing as caretaker on Saturday, he is someone who knows precisely how to make players respond. The performance at the Liberty Stadium of Riyad Mahrez, the player who drove the club to the title in 2016 and who has been largely missing ever since, was indicative. The winger looked revitalised under Appleton’s instruction, running the game, single-handedly outflanking and out-witting Swansea.

You can understand why Mahrez decided to perform: Appleton is not the kind of person you would be advised to ignore. He has the natural authority that comes from possessing the most uncompromising physical features this side of Roy Keane. But there is more to him than a terrifying scowl and forearms the size of steel girders.

As well as a shrewd man-manager, he is a fine tactician, able to quickly and decisively diagnose issues and correct them. On the touchline he doesn’t panic or micro-manage, he speedily delivers intelligible instruction. His abilities did not diminish even as he found himself at a succession of basket case clubs early on in his career.

 

Plus he is superb at developing players. At Oxford United he progressed the careers of youngsters cast adrift by Premier League clubs, in the process accruing sizeable transfer fees. Kemar Roofe, now at Leeds, John Lundstram, now at Sheffield United and Jonjoe Kenny, now back at Everton: the list of those he improved is impressive. Given time he could do something that has not happened for years at Leicester: bring on one of their own. In every sense, Appleton is a man for the future.

It won’t happen, of course. Because Leicester’s board appear to be motivated by something far more persuasive than logic: fashion. What they want is a big name, a manager who will help them sell shirts in Thailand, not bring through youngsters from the academy. What they want is someone their business contacts in the Far East have heard of, not someone so gym-honed he appears to have had an accident with a bicycle pump.

The truth is at Leicester, as in every modern football club boardroom, they want short cuts. They don’t want to invest in the future, they want it now. Actually, they want it sooner than that.

Crazy isn't it? We've had three managers whilst in the Premier League, and two of them have been English! (The one non-English manager took us to the League title) 

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

14 hours ago, ttfn said:

I thought Leroy Rosenior was good on us in today's Totally Football Show. A bit reductive around the players "running more" and no analysis of the crap football to date this season but understood and articulated Okazaki's role well as well as Ndidi's strengths and weaknesses.

 

I wanted to listen to this because I love James Richardson but as soon as I heard Matt Forde was on it I had to give it a miss. How he makes a living as a comedian I've no idea. Michael Cox is good though.

[CosbehFox]

43 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I wanted to listen to this because I love James Richardson but as soon as I heard Matt Forde was on it I had to give it a miss. How he makes a living as a comedian I've no idea. Michael Cox is good though.

One of the best bits in the Quickly Kevin podcast series is when Forde admits Brian Clough called ugly when he was a mascot for Forest and then fat when he seen him years later

[Jimmy]

4 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I wanted to listen to this because I love James Richardson but as soon as I heard Matt Forde was on it I had to give it a miss. How he makes a living as a comedian I've no idea. Michael Cox is good though.

to be fair he wasn't trying to be funny and just talked football

[Rogstanley]

Strange article from Phil McNulty on BBC. Uses Shakespeare as an example of short termism by bizarrely claiming he was sacked after 8 league games in charge (actually 26 games in all competitions), but gushes over Silva's success at Watford which so far amounts to just 4 wins. Eh? 

 

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41710640

[stez]

Seemingly Colin Murray and Don Hutchison was browsing this very forum keeping abreast of the Claude news according to them on the ch5 carabao cup programme

[Livid]

Getting slated in the Sunday Express again.

 

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/872383/Jim-Holden-column-Leicester-Pep-Guardiola-David-Moyes-video-technology-football

 

 

Nice interview with Vincente Iborra in the Sunday Times  if you can find it.

 

[Max Wall]

On 21/10/2017 at 09:39, hejammy said:

Since when has football become such an elitist mentality. When only the big clubs are allowed to achieve success and think about being successful, everyone else is just there to make up the numbers. Did Man City think that before "the money"? Now even Robbie 'nob head' Savage has joined the bandwagon! 

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-need-right-man-replace-11378345

That attitude has gone through the roof since we pissed off the high and mighty by winning the title. I wasn't 100% convinced by all the good will we received at the time and I'm even less convinced now. The people running the game and the big clubs don't want interlopers.

[Max Wall]

On 21/10/2017 at 10:12, st albans fox said:

Spurs have been top six regulars since 2009 ?

 

Btw, here on a dodgy Shanghai market, no sign of arry Kane !

 

They probably think 'arry kane is something you get sugar from in Shanghai. I'm not buying that he's a World star right now despite what Sky and our press would have you believe.

[st albans fox]

6 minutes ago, Max Wall said:

They probably think 'arry kane is something you get sugar from in Shanghai. I'm not buying that he's a World star right now despite what Sky and our press would have you believe.

Well in provincial China when I told the guy which team I supported, the first thing he said with a smile was ‘aahhhh wardy ’ !!!

[Steven]

19 minutes ago, Livid said:

Getting slated in the Sunday Express again.

 

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/872383/Jim-Holden-column-Leicester-Pep-Guardiola-David-Moyes-video-technology-football

 

 

Nice interview with Vincente Iborra in the Sunday Times  if you can find it.

 

I stopped reading after " LEICESTER CITY insulted us all with their craven sacking of title-winning manager Claudio Ranieri earlier this year. " Fook off. 

[Max Wall]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Well in provincial China when I told the guy which team I supported, the first thing he said with a smile was ‘aahhhh wardy ’ !!!

That's the point I was making really. Vardy, on the back of the title winning season, is still currently a bigger name than Kane in the far east. Hence Vardy shirts and no Kane shirt.

Edited 29 October 2017 by Max Wall

[Max Wall]

3 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Well in provincial China when I told the guy which team I supported, the first thing he said with a smile was ‘aahhhh wardy ’ !!!

Does the way I read the aahhhh out to myself aloud make me racist by the way?

[Brooksy]

26 minutes ago, Livid said:

Getting slated in the Sunday Express again.

 

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/872383/Jim-Holden-column-Leicester-Pep-Guardiola-David-Moyes-video-technology-football

 

 

Nice interview with Vincente Iborra in the Sunday Times  if you can find it.

 

What an awful article that is.