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I suspect that many fans, journalists and neutrals don't believe that Vardy has the necessary quality because what he does well appears 'simple' or 'natural' (i.e. running about, being a pest, being quick). What he doesn't do so well, pass the ball, is what many people (rightly or wrongly) view as indicative of 'class'. Once we signed Vardy we created/measured stats that other clubs weren't measuing and began focusing on getting Jamie to do those things better (press, turnover, force errors) and ignored those elements which don't necessarily lead to goals.

 

His pass % is 68%, this is brilliant for us as no top 6 side will want a player who doesn't retain posession. In his three seasons with us his passing accuracy hasn't improved at all, nor has the amount of times that he is dispossessed per match, and poor touches per game remain around 2 per match; all 'bad' things which you notice. However his average interceptions have doubled, his tackles increased, dribbles increased, key passes increased, shots per game increased, and tackles attempted also increased; all things we tend to assume shit players do because they can't do the clever stuff.

absolutely top post this. Really gets to the heart of effective mamangement - do what matters - dont worry about what does not matter

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Reading that above article makes me cringe? Leicester steal a point at Southampton! What? There was onlu one team

In it second half and it wasn't Southampton. Knock off their second because it was offside we would have won.

What is it with media, pundits and the like who can't admit that what we have at Leicester is a great team playing bloody good football.

Shearer and even Lineker on motd on Saturday saying things like, Southampton won't be happy how they threw it away? No, they

Didn't throw it away we upped it second half and they couldn't cope with our movement and pace Alan and Gary.

I have also read a piece by a Southern journalist in the Echo a Southampton newspaper saying after previous International breaks

Southampton have stuffed Sunderland 8 0 and Wba 4 0 previously.

Well matey who wrote that article we ain't Sunderland or Wba. We don't roll over for anyone and our fitness levels are phenemonal.

I am getting sick and tired of journalists, punters and media darlings not giving us the credit we deserve.

Come on admit it we are bloody good.

I completely agree. We remain underrated. However maybe it's time to take advantage of this fact by betting on us, if you don't already.

Que, the losing run!

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Thought I'd stick these in here rather than start a new thread

 

 

 

The spirit and togetherness they talk about in that video is exactly what we have at the club right now, they are right no one wanted to play us under that team and it reminds me so much of whats happening now.

 

Keep this squad together, keep building and the skys the limit.

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34558440

The stats you need to know
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Danny Drinkwater covered all areas of the pitch

  • Jamie Vardy became only the fifth different English player to score in seven or more successive Premier League games after Alan Shearer (7), Ian Wright (7), Mark Stein (7) and Daniel Sturridge (8).
  • Vardy has had a hand in 19 goals in his last 20 Premier League appearances with 14 goals and five assists.
  • Leicester City have claimed their 100th Premier League win in this match.
  • The Foxes have tasted defeat only once in their last 14 top-flight matches, winning eight and drawing five.
  • Crystal Palace have now lost four of their last six Premier League matches and have failed to score in three of these games.
  • Danny Drinkwater recorded 88 touches in this game; no Leicester City player has managed more in a single PL matches this season.
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Absolutely no chance we'll sign him in January. Might be an option in the summer. From what I've seen of him he plays at LW, wouldn't we need an out and out striker (is he capable of this). He's playing out of his skin at the moment but Chadli is younger and offers what he does when in form

https://www.shelfsidespurs.com/forum/threads/james-vardy.38335/#post-1100869

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Leicester 1 Crystal Palace 0: Five things we learnt from the King Power Stadium

 

 

 

 

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Claudio Ranieri doesn’t fancy Riyad Mahrez on the flanks

It’s a scenario which has puzzled pundits and infuriated Fantasy Football players across the country. Riyad Mahrez, the winger who sprinkled the Premier League with gold dust in the early weeks of the season, has figured largely off the bench for Leicester City in recent weeks.

The Algerian stalks the touchline with such menace that he is often assigned two markers by terrified opposition managers, but is nowadays more likely to be played in the no. 10 role by Claudio Ranieri.

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With Marc Albrighton and Jeffrey Schlupp at his disposal, the Italian boss recognises that Mahrez simply doesn’t have the defensive mind-set to track back when possession is squandered. 

Against a side with Yannick Bolasie and Bakory Sako ghosting in from either side, it wasn’t a risk worth taking. 

While it is indisputable that Mahrez operates best as a winger, as he proved in the second half during this 1-0 victory against Crystal Palace, it remains a daring move to utilise him in that way. 

In essence, Leicester don’t have the resources to facilitate a player of his calibre in his preferred position. There isn’t enough cover. 

If the East Midlands outfit wish to keep the former La Havre man when the vultures swoop, which they invariably will in the coming months, Ranieri would be well advised to fix his conundrum at right-back. 

Christian Fuchs offers the assurance he needs behind Schlupp on the left, but neither Danny Simpson nor Ritchie De Laet seem to work on the opposite side. 

It’s about time English football gets off Jamie Vardy’s back

Rarely has there been a striker in such sparkling form for his domestic club and yet so fiercely unpopular among supporters of the national side.

You wonder whether becoming just the eighth player in Premier League history to score in seven consecutive matches will be enough to turn the tide for Jamie Vardy. 

Don’t bet on it, however, for the former Halifax Town and Fleetwood striker is a square peg.  

England fans are picky when it comes to crowning their star strikers, a peculiar phenomenon which Harry Kane still falls foul of. To make it for England, you either have to fit the round holes assigned to you, like Sir Bobby Charlton or Gary Lineker, or you need to be so inexplicably talented, like Wayne Rooney, that your baggage is swept beneath the carpet.

Ranieri said: “It is a big achievement for him, for us, for everybody and also our fans. One a half slices of pizza for him! It is important for him to stay calm when he doesn’t score.”

In an era of such uncertainty for the national side, where the chances of winning just a second piece of silverware dwindles with each passing, crushing, tournament, surely it is time for that footballing snobbery to be put firmly to one side. 

Vardy isn’t the answer to all of Roy Hodgson’s woes but if he keeps on performing like this, he should be on the plane for France next summer – and on the teamsheet for England’s opening match. 

Mike Dean gets it right

Leicester fans often bulk when they discover Mike Dean is to officiate their next Premier League game. The 47-year-old is an unpopular figure in the East Midlands and was even branded the ‘most arrogant man I have ever met’ by former boss Nigel Pearson last season.

But Foxes fans – and neutrals for that matter – should commend Dean for penalising Wilfried Zaha after a ridiculous dive in the latter moments at the King Power Stadium. 

It would have been far easier for any official to award a penalty to the visitors than risk the wrath of yet another top flight manager. 

Alan Pardew, the Eagles’ boss, perhaps tellingly refused to be drawn on the topic. 

“We know for us to get any decisions, they need to be cast in iron,” he said before swiftly leaving the media suite. 

Video replays have since appeared to vindicate Dean for his decision, but Palace supporters will argue that he would have given a free-kick if it had happened further up the field of play. The jury is always out. 

Yohan Cabaye disappears in an overcrowded midfield 

When Crystal Palace plucked Yohan Cabaye from Paris Saint German for £10m, it said as much about the impact of television money over the Premier League as it did about the London club’s ambition. 

But regardless of the politics, the Frenchman is a magnificent capture for Pardew to have in his armoury at Selhurst Park. N’Golo Kante and Danny Drinkwater, however, had the muscle to force the former Newcastle United man out of the game.

If ever there was an example of how a match can be won in midfield, this was it. Home supporters fretted in the summer following the departure of Argentine legend Esteban Cambiasso.

Many assumed it would be Gokhan Inler, signed from Napoli, to fill the void but Drinkwater continues his return from the cold under Pearson to prove his doubters wrong and cement his spot in the Foxes line-up.

With Matty James slowly returning from a knee injury too, a position which previously caused Ranieri such persistent headaches is fast becoming his strongest area. 

Meanwhile Pardew can rest easy. Cabaye has the broad shoulders required to deal with criticism and fire Palace towards contention for European football this season.

Handshakes, or lack of them, almost overshadow the football

Palace manager Pardew accused his counterpart Ranieri of not shaking his hand after the full-time whistle – but it all turned out to be an honest mistake. 

Vardy scored the only goal of the game as the hosts went five points ahead of the Eagles into fifth in the Premier League table.

But Pardew says his trip to the East Midlands has been soured by Ranieri’s behaviour, out of sorts if true, and insists his players will remember this defeat when Leicester visit Selhurst Park later in the season.

He said: “I thought [Ranieri] was goading our players and he didn't shake my hand at full-time, which is disappointing. 

“But it's a long game and they've got to come to our place and we'll remember that. 

“It was a tight game, Leicester weren't really going anywhere and it was a mistake that cost us the game. I thought we did a pretty good job today.”

The Italian apologised after the match, saying he was swept up in the emotion of the match and went to congratulate his players instead.

“I was so glad and I went to celebrate with my players in the centre-circle,” the Italian said. “I’m so sorry to him, I think he is going to come into my office now for a glass of wine. I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry to him.”

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Leicester 1 Crystal Palace 0: Five things we learnt from the King Power Stadium

Ranieri.jpg

Claudio Ranieri doesn’t fancy Riyad Mahrez on the flanks

It’s a scenario which has puzzled pundits and infuriated Fantasy Football players across the country. Riyad Mahrez, the winger who sprinkled the Premier League with gold dust in the early weeks of the season, has figured largely off the bench for Leicester City in recent weeks.

The Algerian stalks the touchline with such menace that he is often assigned two markers by terrified opposition managers, but is nowadays more likely to be played in the no. 10 role by Claudio Ranieri.

ADVERTISING

With Marc Albrighton and Jeffrey Schlupp at his disposal, the Italian boss recognises that Mahrez simply doesn’t have the defensive mind-set to track back when possession is squandered.

vardy.jpg

READ MORE Vardy maintains scoring streak to sink Eagles

Against a side with Yannick Bolasie and Bakory Sako ghosting in from either side, it wasn’t a risk worth taking.

While it is indisputable that Mahrez operates best as a winger, as he proved in the second half during this 1-0 victory against Crystal Palace, it remains a daring move to utilise him in that way.

In essence, Leicester don’t have the resources to facilitate a player of his calibre in his preferred position. There isn’t enough cover.

If the East Midlands outfit wish to keep the former La Havre man when the vultures swoop, which they invariably will in the coming months, Ranieri would be well advised to fix his conundrum at right-back.

Christian Fuchs offers the assurance he needs behind Schlupp on the left, but neither Danny Simpson nor Ritchie De Laet seem to work on the opposite side.

It’s about time English football gets off Jamie Vardy’s back

Rarely has there been a striker in such sparkling form for his domestic club and yet so fiercely unpopular among supporters of the national side.

You wonder whether becoming just the eighth player in Premier League history to score in seven consecutive matches will be enough to turn the tide for Jamie Vardy.

Don’t bet on it, however, for the former Halifax Town and Fleetwood striker is a square peg.

England fans are picky when it comes to crowning their star strikers, a peculiar phenomenon which Harry Kane still falls foul of. To make it for England, you either have to fit the round holes assigned to you, like Sir Bobby Charlton or Gary Lineker, or you need to be so inexplicably talented, like Wayne Rooney, that your baggage is swept beneath the carpet.

Ranieri said: “It is a big achievement for him, for us, for everybody and also our fans. One a half slices of pizza for him! It is important for him to stay calm when he doesn’t score.”

In an era of such uncertainty for the national side, where the chances of winning just a second piece of silverware dwindles with each passing, crushing, tournament, surely it is time for that footballing snobbery to be put firmly to one side.

Vardy isn’t the answer to all of Roy Hodgson’s woes but if he keeps on performing like this, he should be on the plane for France next summer – and on the teamsheet for England’s opening match.

Mike Dean gets it right

Leicester fans often bulk when they discover Mike Dean is to officiate their next Premier League game. The 47-year-old is an unpopular figure in the East Midlands and was even branded the ‘most arrogant man I have ever met’ by former boss Nigel Pearson last season.

But Foxes fans – and neutrals for that matter – should commend Dean for penalising Wilfried Zaha after a ridiculous dive in the latter moments at the King Power Stadium.

It would have been far easier for any official to award a penalty to the visitors than risk the wrath of yet another top flight manager.

Alan Pardew, the Eagles’ boss, perhaps tellingly refused to be drawn on the topic.

“We know for us to get any decisions, they need to be cast in iron,” he said before swiftly leaving the media suite.

Video replays have since appeared to vindicate Dean for his decision, but Palace supporters will argue that he would have given a free-kick if it had happened further up the field of play. The jury is always out.

Yohan Cabaye disappears in an overcrowded midfield

When Crystal Palace plucked Yohan Cabaye from Paris Saint German for £10m, it said as much about the impact of television money over the Premier League as it did about the London club’s ambition.

But regardless of the politics, the Frenchman is a magnificent capture for Pardew to have in his armoury at Selhurst Park. N’Golo Kante and Danny Drinkwater, however, had the muscle to force the former Newcastle United man out of the game.

If ever there was an example of how a match can be won in midfield, this was it. Home supporters fretted in the summer following the departure of Argentine legend Esteban Cambiasso.

Many assumed it would be Gokhan Inler, signed from Napoli, to fill the void but Drinkwater continues his return from the cold under Pearson to prove his doubters wrong and cement his spot in the Foxes line-up.

With Matty James slowly returning from a knee injury too, a position which previously caused Ranieri such persistent headaches is fast becoming his strongest area.

Meanwhile Pardew can rest easy. Cabaye has the broad shoulders required to deal with criticism and fire Palace towards contention for European football this season.

Handshakes, or lack of them, almost overshadow the football

Palace manager Pardew accused his counterpart Ranieri of not shaking his hand after the full-time whistle – but it all turned out to be an honest mistake.

Vardy scored the only goal of the game as the hosts went five points ahead of the Eagles into fifth in the Premier League table.

But Pardew says his trip to the East Midlands has been soured by Ranieri’s behaviour, out of sorts if true, and insists his players will remember this defeat when Leicester visit Selhurst Park later in the season.

He said: “I thought [Ranieri] was goading our players and he didn't shake my hand at full-time, which is disappointing.

“But it's a long game and they've got to come to our place and we'll remember that.

“It was a tight game, Leicester weren't really going anywhere and it was a mistake that cost us the game. I thought we did a pretty good job today.”

The Italian apologised after the match, saying he was swept up in the emotion of the match and went to congratulate his players instead.

“I was so glad and I went to celebrate with my players in the centre-circle,” the Italian said. “I’m so sorry to him, I think he is going to come into my office now for a glass of wine. I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry to him.”

Hard to argue with most if that. Only thing I would say is Mahrez in behind was great at Soton. We're keeping teams guessing with him.

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Leicester 1 Crystal Palace 0: Five things we learnt from the King Power Stadium

Ranieri.jpg

Claudio Ranieri doesn’t fancy Riyad Mahrez on the flanks

It’s a scenario which has puzzled pundits and infuriated Fantasy Football players across the country. Riyad Mahrez, the winger who sprinkled the Premier League with gold dust in the early weeks of the season, has figured largely off the bench for Leicester City in recent weeks.

The Algerian stalks the touchline with such menace that he is often assigned two markers by terrified opposition managers, but is nowadays more likely to be played in the no. 10 role by Claudio Ranieri.

ADVERTISING

With Marc Albrighton and Jeffrey Schlupp at his disposal, the Italian boss recognises that Mahrez simply doesn’t have the defensive mind-set to track back when possession is squandered.

vardy.jpg

READ MORE Vardy maintains scoring streak to sink Eagles

Against a side with Yannick Bolasie and Bakory Sako ghosting in from either side, it wasn’t a risk worth taking.

While it is indisputable that Mahrez operates best as a winger, as he proved in the second half during this 1-0 victory against Crystal Palace, it remains a daring move to utilise him in that way.

In essence, Leicester don’t have the resources to facilitate a player of his calibre in his preferred position. There isn’t enough cover.

If the East Midlands outfit wish to keep the former La Havre man when the vultures swoop, which they invariably will in the coming months, Ranieri would be well advised to fix his conundrum at right-back.

Christian Fuchs offers the assurance he needs behind Schlupp on the left, but neither Danny Simpson nor Ritchie De Laet seem to work on the opposite side.

It’s about time English football gets off Jamie Vardy’s back

Rarely has there been a striker in such sparkling form for his domestic club and yet so fiercely unpopular among supporters of the national side.

You wonder whether becoming just the eighth player in Premier League history to score in seven consecutive matches will be enough to turn the tide for Jamie Vardy.

Don’t bet on it, however, for the former Halifax Town and Fleetwood striker is a square peg.

England fans are picky when it comes to crowning their star strikers, a peculiar phenomenon which Harry Kane still falls foul of. To make it for England, you either have to fit the round holes assigned to you, like Sir Bobby Charlton or Gary Lineker, or you need to be so inexplicably talented, like Wayne Rooney, that your baggage is swept beneath the carpet.

Ranieri said: “It is a big achievement for him, for us, for everybody and also our fans. One a half slices of pizza for him! It is important for him to stay calm when he doesn’t score.”

In an era of such uncertainty for the national side, where the chances of winning just a second piece of silverware dwindles with each passing, crushing, tournament, surely it is time for that footballing snobbery to be put firmly to one side.

Vardy isn’t the answer to all of Roy Hodgson’s woes but if he keeps on performing like this, he should be on the plane for France next summer – and on the teamsheet for England’s opening match.

Mike Dean gets it right

Leicester fans often bulk when they discover Mike Dean is to officiate their next Premier League game. The 47-year-old is an unpopular figure in the East Midlands and was even branded the ‘most arrogant man I have ever met’ by former boss Nigel Pearson last season.

But Foxes fans – and neutrals for that matter – should commend Dean for penalising Wilfried Zaha after a ridiculous dive in the latter moments at the King Power Stadium.

It would have been far easier for any official to award a penalty to the visitors than risk the wrath of yet another top flight manager.

Alan Pardew, the Eagles’ boss, perhaps tellingly refused to be drawn on the topic.

“We know for us to get any decisions, they need to be cast in iron,” he said before swiftly leaving the media suite.

Video replays have since appeared to vindicate Dean for his decision, but Palace supporters will argue that he would have given a free-kick if it had happened further up the field of play. The jury is always out.

Yohan Cabaye disappears in an overcrowded midfield

When Crystal Palace plucked Yohan Cabaye from Paris Saint German for £10m, it said as much about the impact of television money over the Premier League as it did about the London club’s ambition.

But regardless of the politics, the Frenchman is a magnificent capture for Pardew to have in his armoury at Selhurst Park. N’Golo Kante and Danny Drinkwater, however, had the muscle to force the former Newcastle United man out of the game.

If ever there was an example of how a match can be won in midfield, this was it. Home supporters fretted in the summer following the departure of Argentine legend Esteban Cambiasso.

Many assumed it would be Gokhan Inler, signed from Napoli, to fill the void but Drinkwater continues his return from the cold under Pearson to prove his doubters wrong and cement his spot in the Foxes line-up.

With Matty James slowly returning from a knee injury too, a position which previously caused Ranieri such persistent headaches is fast becoming his strongest area.

Meanwhile Pardew can rest easy. Cabaye has the broad shoulders required to deal with criticism and fire Palace towards contention for European football this season.

Handshakes, or lack of them, almost overshadow the football

Palace manager Pardew accused his counterpart Ranieri of not shaking his hand after the full-time whistle – but it all turned out to be an honest mistake.

Vardy scored the only goal of the game as the hosts went five points ahead of the Eagles into fifth in the Premier League table.

But Pardew says his trip to the East Midlands has been soured by Ranieri’s behaviour, out of sorts if true, and insists his players will remember this defeat when Leicester visit Selhurst Park later in the season.

He said: “I thought [Ranieri] was goading our players and he didn't shake my hand at full-time, which is disappointing.

“But it's a long game and they've got to come to our place and we'll remember that.

“It was a tight game, Leicester weren't really going anywhere and it was a mistake that cost us the game. I thought we did a pretty good job today.”

The Italian apologised after the match, saying he was swept up in the emotion of the match and went to congratulate his players instead.

“I was so glad and I went to celebrate with my players in the centre-circle,” the Italian said. “I’m so sorry to him, I think he is going to come into my office now for a glass of wine. I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry to him.”

Spot on really, great article

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It's not quite right to say CR doesn't fancy Mahrez on the flanks. He's just experimenting with Mahrez in the no10 role as it solves a lot of problems.

1) Mahrez isn't as good defensively as our other wide players.

2) ideally you want your No 10 to be one of your best players as it's a more important role than a wide midfielder

3) Okazaki has been one of our least effective players this season so by bringing in Mahrez there it gives us an opportunity to play two wide MF which is an area we have good strength in depth

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If the East Midlands outfit wish to keep the former La Havre man when the vultures swoop, which they invariably will in the coming months, Ranieri would be well advised to fix his conundrum at right-back.

Christian Fuchs offers the assurance he needs behind Schlupp on the left, but neither Danny Simpson nor Ritchie De Laet seem to work on the opposite side.

 

Spot on.

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Everyones knows Pardew's reputation as a troublemaker on the touchline its almost laughable for him to say anything about Claudio's behaviour with the long list of altercations Pardew has from the touchline on his resume. 

Pot, Kettle, Black IMO

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It's not quite right to say CR doesn't fancy Mahrez on the flanks. He's just experimenting with Mahrez in the no10 role as it solves a lot of problems.

1) Mahrez isn't as good defensively as our other wide players.

2) ideally you want your No 10 to be one of your best players as it's a more important role than a wide midfielder

3) Okazaki has been one of our least effective players this season so by bringing in Mahrez there it gives us an opportunity to play two wide MF which is an area we have good strength in depth

 

Didn't work for me yesterday though. Mahrez hasn't got the workrate that Okzaki has and so Vardy looked like he was playing alone (I know he has been because we play 4411 but with Okazaki he has more support imo)... Okzaki, he isn't ineffective, his workrate creates a lot of chances - the Mahrez goal at West Ham came from Okzaki initially closing down, as did our second goal at Norwich.

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Didn't work for me yesterday though. Mahrez hasn't got the workrate that Okzaki has and so Vardy looked like he was playing alone (I know he has been because we play 4411 but with Okazaki he has more support imo)... Okzaki, he isn't ineffective, his workrate creates a lot of chances - the Mahrez goal at West Ham came from Okzaki initially closing down, as did our second goal at Norwich.

Too many people think if a striker doesn't score then he doesn't do anything. You'd have thought as fanbase having had Heskey here for years we'd know about how effective a not very prolific striker can be.

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That one guy's a spectacular moron, imagine making a post about a player you know little about without even checking sites like transfermarkt to swot up a tiny bit first and make sure what you're writing actually makes sense. lol

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That one guy's a spectacular moron, imagine making a post about a player you know little about without even checking sites like transfermarkt to swot up a tiny bit first and make sure what you're writing actually makes sense. lol

That's priceless do they know Harry Kane is their best striker?'

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Tbf Vardy can't get ahead of Kane in the England team so he's clearly the better CF, don't need stats to figure that one out.

I was just trying to point out the complete contradiction from that Spurs fan, Vardy is in form so that's the only reason he is linked with bigger clubs yet kane has one good season (run of form)  and he should be playing for Real Madrid and is worth £60 million, yet now he can't score for toffee

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Too many people think if a striker doesn't score then he doesn't do anything. You'd have thought as fanbase having had Heskey here for years we'd know about how effective a not very prolific striker can be.

 

I know, it's so frustrating to read.

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