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MC Prussian

UEFA Champions League 2012/2013

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Some finish, that. Almost RvP style :whistle:

I was just thinking the same. Pretty similar to his goal against Charlton a few years back.

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Not a great goal but I've just seen Wilshere's goal tonight. What the hell is Bedimo, the left back for Montpellier doing? He throws his hand up claiming offside against Wilshere after watching Wilshere run past him! How is that ever going to be offside?!? I hate seeing defenders throw their arms up at every opportunity, it's clearly not offside, do your job stop expecting the linesman to defend for you.

http://youtu.be/PuMGekdu5sw

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That Mexes goal is making FIFA look even more silly for compiling a goal of the year list in November, in fact they probably did it last month.

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Luiz Adriano has gotten a one-match suspension for his unfair goal against FC Nordsjælland along with one-day 'community service'. As Shakhtar are already through, it renders the ban utterly meaningless. In fact, it just helps Juventus. Very soft by UEFA and ridiculous that they didn't discipline the club or staff, who could've easily rectified it during or after the game. Fair play and respect my bottom!

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Anyone seen the Zagreb v Dynamo Keiv game?

It gives Ipswich v Leicester a run for it's money, still think Ipswich v Leicester wins but it's still a joke, snow everywhere, ball hadly rolling, dangerous.

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Anyone seen the Zagreb v Dynamo Keiv game?

It gives Ipswich v Leicester a run for it's money, still think Ipswich v Leicester wins but it's still a joke, snow everywhere, ball hadly rolling, dangerous.

I was watching the snow for about 5 minutes until I realised there was actual football I could be watching and switched over. Didn't think they'd start playing again, seems crazy neither can qualify or in fact move at all from the positions they currently have in the group, so seems dangerous to make them needlessly play in this pointless game.

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Bye bye Manchester City, laughable display in the Champions League this season.

1-0 down at Dortmund and probably even missing out on playing in the Europa League.

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Another bad night for the English clubs.

The performance of our clubs this year will undoubtably mean that we will lose our number 1 spot on the UEFA coefficient, however the rate of decline is truly staggering. I don't think there's a single English club i'd now put in the top 10 in Europe :o

Is too much focus on flooding the Premier League with either overpriced, or cheap foreign players with little motivation other than money, rather than developing world-class home grown talent now having a severe effect on the overall quality of English football? As apart from Manchester United, it appears that the English contingent at Chelsea, Manchester City, and Arsenal is minimal at the very best. I can't help but feel when watching those teams that their communication, desire, and character is utterly dreadful when compared to other European clubs where the majority of their players come from the same country. Is there a link....i can't help but think so sometimes...

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I agree that the rate of decline is remarkable but the Prem has been full of foreign players for years.

Maybe the decline is just a relative decline. It feels like other clubs around Europe have caught up and in some cases overtaken the Prem clubs.

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Is too much focus on flooding the Premier League with either overpriced, or cheap foreign players with little motivation other than money, rather than developing world-class home grown talent now having a severe effect on the overall quality of English football?

I'm not really a big fan of this whole "foreign players in the Premiership are ruining the National Team" argument. After all, between the first World Cup in 1930 and the inception of the Premier League in 1992, we've only won it once. And since 1992 we've put in similar performances at World Cups.

Here's a quick run down which shows were at about the same level, regardless of all these foreign players.

World Cups:

1950 - Group Stage

1954 - QF

1958 - Group Stage

1962 - QF

1966 - Winners

1970 - QF

1974 - Failed To Qualify

1978 - Failed To Qualify

1982 - 2nd Group Stage

1986 - QF

1990 - 4th Place

1994 - Failed To Qualify

1998 - Last 16

2002 - QF

2006 - QF

2010 - Last 16

Looking at these World Cup past performance, I don't think anyone can argue foreign players have dented the performance and achievements of our National Team. Let's face it the 1970's and early 80's performances don't make for pretty reading and I think we'd be hard pushed to blame that on foreigners. I think the main reason is we're just pretty average, to be honest.

Incidentally, our record in the European Cup has improved since the Premier League was founded.

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Eh, all leagues have their ups and downs.

So the English clubs aren't as strong at the moment but neither are the Italians really and the Germans are obviously on the up. In a few years time it could be the French taking over and the Spanish clubs declining.

Trends rise and fall all the time, it's hardly worth getting depressed about. One of ten or fifteen clubs could realistically win the Champs' League in any given year and there'll always be one or two English in that. Chelsea had a tidy year last year, United are doing okay this year.

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Depends which way you look at it.

I've read in this thread (and lots of other places on the internet) that "the last two years" English clubs haven't performed as well in the CL. An English club won it last year! Not too bad.

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lol Man City.

I'll second that!!!

££££==== No guarantee....

Now all the Man City lovers will say how long it took Chelski and Manure years to win in Europe!!....True but the aint got Barry and Milner in midfield against the best Europe have to offer!!!!

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Eh, all leagues have their ups and downs.

So the English clubs aren't as strong at the moment but neither are the Italians really and the Germans are obviously on the up. In a few years time it could be the French taking over and the Spanish clubs declining.

Trends rise and fall all the time, it's hardly worth getting depressed about. One of ten or fifteen clubs could realistically win the Champs' League in any given year and there'll always be one or two English in that. Chelsea had a tidy year last year, United are doing okay this year.

Excellent analysis. Swings and roundabouts.

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Eh, all leagues have their ups and downs.

So the English clubs aren't as strong at the moment but neither are the Italians really and the Germans are obviously on the up. In a few years time it could be the French taking over and the Spanish clubs declining.

Trends rise and fall all the time, it's hardly worth getting depressed about. One of ten or fifteen clubs could realistically win the Champs' League in any given year and there'll always be one or two English in that. Chelsea had a tidy year last year, United are doing okay this year.

have french clubs ever been good in the Euro Leagues???

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I'll second that!!!

££££==== No guarantee....

Now all the Man City lovers will say how long it took Chelski and Manure years to win in Europe!!....True but the aint got Barry and Milner in midfield against the best Europe have to offer!!!!

Wealthy billionaires prop up Man city and Chelsea and drain wealth from Man U.

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The Man City plastics are becoming rather annoying, yes it was an extremely difficult group but no wins and behind Ajax is a disaster no matter how you dress it up. All be it in a much easier group Malaga, with next next to no champions league experience, qualified with ease. I really think United will win the league as well so it may well be farewell to Mancini.

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