fleckneymike Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 I'd snap their hands off at £5 million If the bid wasn't mid season I'd snap their hands off too. The possible disruption to an already week area means it wouldn't be worth the risk.
Deucalion Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 £5 million buys us one Matt Mills doesn't it? Stick with what we've got and who we know.
foxoffderby Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 Very tempting offer. But again its January so no due to our position. 8 million then its a yes
ronnup Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 I'd snap their hands off at £5 million Seriously though, what would you want us to do wth the 5 million then?
Legend_in_blue Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 5 million is loose change to our owners. No bid unless it totals 65 million plus will account for the loss of the player when premier league funding is exactly what awaits us at the end of the season the way it's looking. Disrupt that and we're looking at 5 million gained, and 60+ million lost. No ta. Fulham can go back to the level they should be at - league one. There's far too many small fish big pond scenarios in the premier league at the minute. One less would make a good start in correcting this issue.
LCCFox96 Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 Moore's silence on the whole matter is very telling as well. Hopefully this means he wants to stay. We don't need the money and we don't need to sell.
phillo Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 is miquel as good as morgan we have him on loan till the end of the season
Bayfox Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 Just listening to the moan in and them discussing moore. im gonna throw one out there. 10 million for chris smalling. Discuss.
Bausor Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 Don't sell his value will only increase as he gets better and has premier league experience
Maybes Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 So they offer £2m then increase it to £5m? Strange.
Brooksy Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 There's no point disrupting the squad at this stage and I doubt the owners need the money.
Leicesterpool Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 So they offer £2m then increase it to £5m? Strange. Desperate aren't they, it's a huge gamble on Fulham's part with there current situation.
davieG Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 I can't imagine why anyone would want to sell one of our regular first teamers especially one who'd need to be replaced in the January window. He's our best cover for RB and him and Miquel are our best bets for left CB.
C-man Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 So they offer £2m then increase it to £5m? Strange. After having perhaps his worst game of the season? Very strange.
Rhysm Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 People are also assuming the owners would give the full 5 mill to spend.
Devonfox1884 Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 You don't think Fulham are trying to buy players to help their survival in the PL. They would not buy to reloan out again. We are not talking about Man U or Chelsea. This is just a matter for LCFC to decide is there any price for us to sell a key player who happens to be home grown in a year when we really have a great chance of going up. For all those arguing about how is he worth what ever we say he is worth an what ever someone will pay. Didn't we respond to the initial offer that he is not for sale at any price. if this 4 mil offer is real and we reject, I reckon that will be the end of it. Yeah, obviously they won't loan him back out, im just sayin that is the only way he is leaving to anyone this window.
Mark_w Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 We paid £1,000,000 for Wes Morgan, Jack Hobbs is about to move to Forest for £1,000,000, if Pearson can find a player like that available for that sort of money then it'd be pretty silly to dismiss an offer of 5x that much for Liam Moore. Not saying I want him to go, but it's an awful lot of money, certainly not an offer we should be instantly turning down without thinking about it if it's true.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 I'd probably sell at £5million. It's a complete myth that you don't go up if you're a "selling club" or you sell one or two first team players or whatever. Also, I put this on here in April 2012 and it's arguably just as fitting now. Some of the names might be a bit off in retrospect (Peltier and Marshall) but the point holds I think, especially about Mattock and when you consider King's drop in value. --- It occurred to me a while ago that we haven't sold anyone for decent money for a long time. If you look at the teams in the top six who have been around this division for a fair bit over the last few years, a lot of them have sold players for fairly big sums during that time. Reading (Mills, Long, Sigurdsson) Southampton (Walcott, Bale, Oxlade-Chamberlain) Blackpool (Adam) Cardiff (Ramsey, Jerome, Johnson) There are probably other good examples I've overlooked. It strikes me that this comes down to transfer policy as well as the strength of a club's youth academy. If you don't develop young players of the quality that Southampton clearly do, then you need to buy young first team players cheaply and develop them within the first team. It's difficult to do, particularly in an environment like ours where the expectations are now sky high because of the money invested and the division is a real grind. Cardiff are a good example of a club that have kept themselves ticking over despite selling key players without always spending huge amounts on replacing them and Swansea are an example of a club that have largely kept their first team together and benefited from a group of players who know each other's game extremely well. Whatever your opinion of players like Hobbs and Fryatt, I strongly believe that we messed up by selling them for below their worth. We also could have got more for Mattock had we sold at the right time. It will be interesting to see whether, as and when we sell him, King goes for the right price, but I'm pleased we've got more promising young players who are getting plenty of experience (Schmeichel [in goalkeeper terms], Peltier, Drinkwater, Marshall) and you could imagine going for decent money in the future. Mandaric seemed to be insistent that he would never sell players when they were doing well (e.g. Fryatt before he signed his contract in League One) and we never got decent money for a player during his time. I know the current thought from a lot of people is that all our players are crap and worthless, so maybe there aren't many who can envisage selling anyone for decent money at the moment. But do you think the Thais would sell key players for decent money or will they try to cling on to anyone and everyone too, and risk selling at a lower price later on? More importantly, I think it's vital that we have a strong and sensible transfer policy this summer - particularly that we continue to sign players like Drinkwater and Marshall who have potential sell-on value rather than shelling out £3m/£4m on the likes of Mills/Beckford. Whether it's worked this season or not (and clearly it hasn't, hence it's all very well me saying it now), this is a more sensible approach for the long-term, because there is no way you can guarantee promotion from this division even by spending huge amounts of money. Drinkwater and Marshall seemed like the kind of players Pearson would have signed on loan before and now he's got the money to sign them permanently. When you look at Tom Cleverley's progress and Mark Davies impressing occasionally at Premier League level, then it gives a glimpse of what that type of player can achieve - with or without us. It's all very well talking about "clearing out deadwood" (a common phrase at this time of year) but maybe it's time to start thinking about being open to selling our better players at their top-end values rather than clinging onto them, declaring them worthless and flogging them for peanuts only to see them thrive elsewhere. Edit - worth clarifying it doesn't particularly matter what you think each player's value is at the moment or who our most saleable players are - this is about a policy over a number of years rather than something we just do this summer because it seems to have worked for Reading.
Thracian Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 The key to selling almost anyone unless the price offered is ridiculously inflated, is to have adequate replacements. Moore' s reinstatement in our team has resulted in a seemingly much more stable defence but what Pearson and the club needs to consider is not whether £5m is too tempting to turn down but whether we have sufficient quality to achieve our aims without the targetted player leaves. Me, I'm not at all sure about that. Miguel may have potential but he's not quite Liam Moore, the big Pole is tough but not reliable enough and the name "St Leger" will be more remembered as a horse race than for anything the footballer's done at Leicester apart from gifting the opposition a goal almost the moment he got here. So while £5m is a genuinely tempting offer for such a raw and still improving defender, I still wouldn't sell because I doubt that Moore's value will go down if we go up, he'll still be worth good money if we don't and I wouldn't risk our potential promotion on losing him. But for the sake of good relations, perhaps they'd like St Leger instead!
VLC86 Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 5mil is still a joke. You having a laugh? Ok it would cause disruption but how many of our key players did we buy for a combined fee of less? Dyer, Kasper, drinky, Nuge, Knocky and Vardy all cost less combined. Clearly not a joke.
muzzy1981 Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 I'd probably sell at £5million. It's a complete myth that you don't go up if you're a "selling club" or you sell one or two first team players or whatever. Also, I put this on here in April 2012 and it's arguably just as fitting now. Some of the names might be a bit off in retrospect (Peltier and Marshall) but the point holds I think, especially about Mattock and when you consider King's drop in value. --- It occurred to me a while ago that we haven't sold anyone for decent money for a long time. If you look at the teams in the top six who have been around this division for a fair bit over the last few years, a lot of them have sold players for fairly big sums during that time. Reading (Mills, Long, Sigurdsson) Southampton (Walcott, Bale, Oxlade-Chamberlain) Blackpool (Adam) Cardiff (Ramsey, Jerome, Johnson) There are probably other good examples I've overlooked. It strikes me that this comes down to transfer policy as well as the strength of a club's youth academy. If you don't develop young players of the quality that Southampton clearly do, then you need to buy young first team players cheaply and develop them within the first team. It's difficult to do, particularly in an environment like ours where the expectations are now sky high because of the money invested and the division is a real grind. Cardiff are a good example of a club that have kept themselves ticking over despite selling key players without always spending huge amounts on replacing them and Swansea are an example of a club that have largely kept their first team together and benefited from a group of players who know each other's game extremely well. Whatever your opinion of players like Hobbs and Fryatt, I strongly believe that we messed up by selling them for below their worth. We also could have got more for Mattock had we sold at the right time. It will be interesting to see whether, as and when we sell him, King goes for the right price, but I'm pleased we've got more promising young players who are getting plenty of experience (Schmeichel [in goalkeeper terms], Peltier, Drinkwater, Marshall) and you could imagine going for decent money in the future. Mandaric seemed to be insistent that he would never sell players when they were doing well (e.g. Fryatt before he signed his contract in League One) and we never got decent money for a player during his time. I know the current thought from a lot of people is that all our players are crap and worthless, so maybe there aren't many who can envisage selling anyone for decent money at the moment. But do you think the Thais would sell key players for decent money or will they try to cling on to anyone and everyone too, and risk selling at a lower price later on? More importantly, I think it's vital that we have a strong and sensible transfer policy this summer - particularly that we continue to sign players like Drinkwater and Marshall who have potential sell-on value rather than shelling out £3m/£4m on the likes of Mills/Beckford. Whether it's worked this season or not (and clearly it hasn't, hence it's all very well me saying it now), this is a more sensible approach for the long-term, because there is no way you can guarantee promotion from this division even by spending huge amounts of money. Drinkwater and Marshall seemed like the kind of players Pearson would have signed on loan before and now he's got the money to sign them permanently. When you look at Tom Cleverley's progress and Mark Davies impressing occasionally at Premier League level, then it gives a glimpse of what that type of player can achieve - with or without us. It's all very well talking about "clearing out deadwood" (a common phrase at this time of year) but maybe it's time to start thinking about being open to selling our better players at their top-end values rather than clinging onto them, declaring them worthless and flogging them for peanuts only to see them thrive elsewhere. Edit - worth clarifying it doesn't particularly matter what you think each player's value is at the moment or who our most saleable players are - this is about a policy over a number of years rather than something we just do this summer because it seems to have worked for Reading. No
Collymore Posted 20 January 2014 Posted 20 January 2014 The key to selling almost anyone unless the price offered is ridiculously inflated, is to have adequate replacements. Moore' s reinstatement in our team has resulted in a seemingly much more stable defence but what Pearson and the club needs to consider is not whether £5m is too tempting to turn down but whether we have sufficient quality to achieve our aims without the targetted player leaves. Me, I'm not at all sure about that. Miguel may have potential but he's not quite Liam Moore, the big Pole is tough but not reliable enough and the name "St Leger" will be more remembered as a horse race than for anything the footballer's done at Leicester apart from gifting the opposition a goal almost the moment he got here. So while £5m is a genuinely tempting offer for such a raw and still improving defender, I still wouldn't sell because I doubt that Moore's value will go down if we go up, he'll still be worth good money if we don't and I wouldn't risk our potential promotion on losing him. But for the sake of good relations, perhaps they'd like St Leger instead! Are there any decent CB prospects in the youths?
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