jimmeh Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Almeria probably get 40% sell on fee or something. Reaaon Brighton turning it down. If they will only get 2.5 mill from deal is it worth it
MC Prussian Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Are Brighton fans actually calling us irrelevant? Brighton? We have a lifelong fan in charge, and the money he is investing is primarily in the infrastructure of the club. The club is also striving to adhere to FFP and becoming self-sufficient in the medium to long term. You've got some foreign owner running his mouth off about spending £180m on players over the next 3 years. Bit of a difference. Yep, it's a shame Brighton aren't in the Premier League. Otherwise, they'd fully understand. I also like the fact that, despite the contrary on display, Mr. Easy 10 fails to grasp the concept of having to spend a lot of money on things other than players in the top tier. http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?302099-Leicester-Bid-%A33-%A35-million-for-Ulloa/page41
Blanesta Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Some of the Brighton fans on that site are embarrassing themselves, I bet they're going through the Kleenex like there's no tomorrow down there! HAHA
wattolcfc Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 I'd take him. We need some aerial presence for starters. How many of us were moaning about how often we concede from set plays and how terrible we are attacking them. This guy could save us goals as well as score them. We can't underestimate how much better prem teams are in the air next season and this signing (or another aerial giant), could prove to be shrewd business come May 2015. On the McCormack point, I'd take him too. Play him just behind Ulloa, with 2 from Vardy, Mahrez, Knocky & Albrighton on the wings. The squad will be very important and having quality players to rotate and keep fresh will be important, especially towards the end of the season. Whatever Pearson decided, I will back him. He will have scouted the players thoroughly, and while not every transfer turns out to be a star, most of them do. BLUE ARMY!
pazzerfox Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 I think we would respond exactly the same if they came on here and started spouting sh**. Nobody cares about Brighton, just like they don't care about us...All we want is one of their players!
Fox92 Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 See it there. Get McCormack in. But they're different players. Ings, Austin and McCormack don't offer what Ulloa can offer - the ability to hold up the ball, bring others into play, a great presence in the air, strong and tall - I think some people miss the point when comparing players. You might find a target man in Europe but I can't think of another realistic option better than Ulloa.
Rob1742 Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 This just stinks of Beckford all over again to me... Beckford always had a question mark over him before he joined us. Ulloah is Brightons best player and important to them, according to the Brighton fans I know. Just because he is a high cost like Beckford or Akinbiyi does not mean he will be poor like them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
johnny the fox Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 I can see in 12 months time a thread saying we dodge a bullet here.. just like the awsome maynard saga. the hapless brighton fans will be in mid recrimination blaming each other for not selling..the bloke has one reasonable season here at the age of 27..he will be sussed out next season.
AKCJ Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Bit of both, both absolute Sagas, one we ended up with naff all, the other an arrogant cvnt who was just in it for the money...which is exactly what will happen with this chap if we persist. Say we offer a bit more and a bit more. He starts to think of his big premier league pay day and hands in a transfer request, that's where I'm getting Beckford from. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Saga? ****ing hell, it's May. Get a grip.
ian_marshall Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 I like the look of Ulloa, but think the price tag seems excessive. I was thinking last night that whilst he had been a successful goalscoring target man in the Championship he doesn't look head and shoulders above similar successful target men from the same division, many of which have not moved for anywhere near the figures being bandied around. In all fairness, is he any better than say Becchio who looked very accomplished in the Championship? Whilst I like Becchio as a player, he failed to score at all in the Premier League despite hitting 19 for Leeds in the same season. Therefore if we're not careful this could well end being another Akinbiyi situation, although I suppose if we were to get relegated at least we'd have another top class Championship striker in our ranks to help us return to the top flight.
inckley fox Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 '' The sooner the season starts and Leicester start taking some heavy beatings the better. These Foxes goons on here make Palace seem pleasant by comparison. The sheer arrogance of these pricks is breathtaking, by far the shittest club in the Midlands with zero class.'' Nice comments here, think they like us! Well, I mean they're wrong aren't they? Quite clearly and demonstrably. If you're going to get all emotional about it then at least get your facts right: I'm sure Derby, Peterborough, Cov, Forest, Notts County, Northampton, Wolves, Walsall, Brum, Oxford, Cambridge etc. would love to be as shit or as classless as us. Leicester fans aren't thought of especially well nor especially badly but Brighton fans are starting to make a name for themselves as being just a tiny bit over-sensitive, perhaps even hysterical. I'm a very liberal sort and I don't approve of homophobic chants, but their response to that - as football fans - was quite extraordinary. Last week a pleasant young man in Hinckley town centre (whom I'd never met) came up to me while I was sat at a table with a mate and asked me how my honeymoon was going. If, instead of asking him how his speech therapy was going in return, I'd burst into tears, sobbed wildly on the floor for a bit and then complained to the barman, I might have made matters worse. It is, after all, Hinckley town centre on a Friday. I was genuinely shocked by how silent (and below capacity) their ground was for the PO home leg. Maybe their attentions should be focused on learning how to recreate the atmosphere of a football match rather than a night at the opera. A little less bleating about how mean and horrid the big boys are to them might be a start.
Banks Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Brighton have always been a small club, only have started to get crowds due to the Amex. Palace and Brighton is also the most pointless pathetic rivalry in England. They remind me a bit of a rugby team as well, 'Albion, Albion' like 'Tigers, Tigers' for Leicester Tigers. Used to think they were a decent club, their fans are deluded though. Obviously Ulloa is going to want a move here, Premier League club going places, can see Brighton heading down next season if they bring in someone like Sherwood as manager. Already lost on of their best players in Upson. Kuszasck is out of contract, they already lack goals in their side, they'd be in big trouble if they lost their top scorer.
Leeds_Fox95 Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 I still don't get the Beckford bit, Do you think this happens to all the players that play in the prem? Or is it specifically Ulloa who will do this? Pearson does things differently to the days of Sven, and if we're bidding 5+ million for Ulloa then I'm fairly confident the player has more professionalism than you're crediting him with. Well the interest we showed in Beckford was just after we'd been taken over (unless I'm mistaken) and he knew, as did the rest of the teams in the league, we had money to spend. Beckford wasn't coming to play for us for anything less than a certain amount of money, we shot ourselves in the foot by spending big and buying anyone we could because players knew they could take advantage and demand big money. I just think this bloke might get the same idea, it's only a slight comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
ealingfox Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Did not realise Brighton fans were that deluded, thought they were one of the good guys... They're essentially a more cultured Watford. Never won a trophy and can count their top-flight seasons on one hand yet somehow put themselves on a par with traditionally top 20/25 teams that are genuine staples of English football, because of a top 6 finish and some vague notions about playing good football. The rivals dig? Please. The Palace-Brighton one is easily the most fabricated and forced rivalry going. Tenuously historical, but recent, and not at all local.
jammie82uk Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Just clicked on that forum link reading one page was enough for me after reading these 2 excellent posts "Enjoy your big-talking gobshite foreign owner while it lasts. Whilst spunking £180m on your squad over the next 3 years, he'll saddle your club with a bunch of players on absolutely maHOOsive contracts - so you'd better hope he's in this for the long term, and that you don't get relegated, then see him lose interest and walk away. Mind you, Leicester did pretty well out of their last spell in Administration didn't they. Got relegated, had millions written off, but kept that PL squad together, went straight back up AND got a free free brand new plastic identikit stadium in the bargain. You must be very proud. Class act." "Jealous of what - cheating and ripping off creditors ? Naah, I'm ok thanks. Your club was certainly one of the pioneers in its field though - spending money like it was going out of fashion, going belly up, having it all written off, and then starting all over again as if nothing happened. It was as a direct result of the cheating of LCFC that the Football League introduced points deductions for administrations. Not that its proved that much of a deterrant since, but seeing how Leicester did so fantastically well out of going bust, something had to be done. Looks like you're well on the road to repeating it too."
Robin JD Popley Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 We haven't even signed him yet but they already hate us. God forbid if we went and signed their player of the season... oh wait.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Vichai's boast about the mega baht proving a curse maybe? This 100%! We had just got rid of the "big spending leicester" label. School boy error from the owners.
Corky Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Just clicked on that forum link reading one page was enough for me after reading these 2 excellent posts "Enjoy your big-talking gobshite foreign owner while it lasts. Whilst spunking £180m on your squad over the next 3 years, he'll saddle your club with a bunch of players on absolutely maHOOsive contracts - so you'd better hope he's in this for the long term, and that you don't get relegated, then see him lose interest and walk away. Mind you, Leicester did pretty well out of their last spell in Administration didn't they. Got relegated, had millions written off, but kept that PL squad together, went straight back up AND got a free free brand new identikit stadium in the bargain. You must be very proud. Class act." "Jealous of what - cheating and ripping off creditors ? Naah, I'm ok thanks. Your club was certainly one of the pioneers in its field though - spending money like it was going out of fashion, going belly up, having it all written off, and then starting all over again as if nothing happened. It was as a direct result of the cheating of LCFC that the Football League introduced points deductions for administrations. Not that its proved that much of a deterrant since, but seeing how Leicester did so fantastically well out of going bust, something had to be done. Looks like you're well on the road to repeating it too." Oh dear, they fell for that £180 million line as well. Yeah, we've spent no transfer fees on signing three players, breaking the bank at LCFC. And still going on about the administration? It was 12 years ago, it didn't affect Brighton, move on. I'm glad we're leaving this division behind for at least a year, some seriously bitter and small-time fanbases in it. Leave it Nige, don't sign Ulloa then we can ignore these morons.
Corky Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 "Jealous of what - cheating and ripping off creditors ? Naah, I'm ok thanks. Your club was certainly one of the pioneers in its field though - spending money like it was going out of fashion, going belly up, having it all written off, and then starting all over again as if nothing happened. It was as a direct result of the cheating of LCFC that the Football League introduced points deductions for administrations. Not that its proved that much of a deterrant since, but seeing how Leicester did so fantastically well out of going bust, something had to be done. Looks like you're well on the road to repeating it too." This is fantastic. Firstly, 25 clubs went into administration before ours, over an 18 year period. Pioneers- well, 26th in line. "Not that it's proved much of a detterant since"- oh, that makes it alright then, we go into administration and it's bad, cheating, ruining the game etc, others do it- is that not cheating? Let's remember that the clubs voted for it, they set their own penalty and aren't being careful with it now. We did fantastically well? In the 8 years before we had two promotions, three cup finals, two cup wins, trips to Europe, regular top flight football. In the 10 years since, we had two relegations, third tier football for the first time ever, consistent relegation battles in the second tier and a decade absence from the top flight. Yeah, we did so well out of it, basically mirrored the time before administration.
Guest Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 If you read some of the later posts they've come round to thinking that he's worth about 4 million. Well, some of them at least.
Leeds_Fox95 Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Saga? ****ing hell, it's May. Get a grip. I said the Beckford and Maynard cases were sagas, not this one. If we carry on with these silly bids It might well turn in to one though!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
chicagofox Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Both Vardy and Nugent are similar age to him. Nugent scored more goals than him last season, Vardy scored one goal less than him last season. So if we are going on last seasons stats, Nugent and Vardy are both every bit as good and important to us, as ulloa is to Brighton, and they believe wrongly in my opinion, that he is worth 10 million. So surely that must make Nugent and Vardy worth 10 million in Brightons world of transfer fees. What part of that ****ing logic don't you get! The brighton hierarchies potential value of Nugent and/or Vardy is completely irrelevant to how much they are perfectly entitled to ask for their player. come to think of it our own value of these two players is irrelevant to how much we are willing to pay for any other player. If Southampton, for instance, were to bid for Jeff Schlupp and we were willing to enter negotiations would the amount that we demand for him be based on his current and potential future value to our club or be based on our valuation of their current left-back. Let me answer that for you, it would be the latter. Similarly, if we were to bid for any player we would bud what we thought he was worth - not what the current player we have playing in the same position is worth.
chicagofox Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Well he hasn`t become four times as good a player since he has been at Brighton! Maybe he has. But I bow to your superior knowledge if you watched him play regularly for any or all of his previous clubs.
reynard Posted 31 May 2014 Posted 31 May 2014 Just clicked on that forum link reading one page was enough for me after reading these 2 excellent posts "Enjoy your big-talking gobshite foreign owner while it lasts. Whilst spunking £180m on your squad over the next 3 years, he'll saddle your club with a bunch of players on absolutely maHOOsive contracts - so you'd better hope he's in this for the long term, and that you don't get relegated, then see him lose interest and walk away. Mind you, Leicester did pretty well out of their last spell in Administration didn't they. Got relegated, had millions written off, but kept that PL squad together, went straight back up AND got a free free brand new identikit stadium in the bargain. You must be very proud. Class act." "Jealous of what - cheating and ripping off creditors ? Naah, I'm ok thanks. Your club was certainly one of the pioneers in its field though - spending money like it was going out of fashion, going belly up, having it all written off, and then starting all over again as if nothing happened. It was as a direct result of the cheating of LCFC that the Football League introduced points deductions for administrations. Not that its proved that much of a deterrant since, but seeing how Leicester did so fantastically well out of going bust, something had to be done. Looks like you're well on the road to repeating it too." And this from a club who in 1996 were so badly run financially that they had to sell their ground to stop going into liquidation. No we're not squeaky clean on finances and I'm sure none of our fans are especially proud of going into administration but I get a bit sick of other clubs being all righteous and virtuous when their own clubs have hardly covered themselves in glory in the past..
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