queensguardfox Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMqE07aIqc#t=51 Wood looks in fine form! more then i can say for nugent!
Finnaldo Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Wood looks in fine form! more then i can say for nugent! I was more captivated by GTF in that vest. #sunsoutgunsout
teblin Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMqE07aIqc#t=51 Wood looks in fine form! more then i can say for nugent! As a finisher wood is the best we have. (then Andy King in my opinion)
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 WTF was that Nugent?! Shooting practice, not bloody back passes!
Babylon Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 That's utter bollocks though. You can't justify a ridiculously priced player just because you've bought three decent free transfer ins and to be fair decent would be stretching it, it's a reserve goal keeper a center back with serious questions marks over his head as to whether he is going to be able to cut it at this level still and a winger who merely adds depth as opposed to remarkably improving the squad. For 8 Million we could buy two players that are better than Leanoardo Ulloa, this transfer is slowly approaching McCormack embarrassment levels. We should look elsewhere. If I have £10 to spend on a few things from the shop, some are on offer and I get them at a great price, but one item is a bit more expensive than I'd like to pay. I wouldn't consider myself at a loss if I bought them all and came out about where I thought I might be before going in, and with all the things I wanted to start with. You might not agree, but it's certainly not an "utter bollocks" way of looking at it.
Guest Papasmurf Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Newcastle signing Riviere for around £5m puts the fee quoted for Ulloa in context for me.
VLC86 Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 The only problem with that is that hes on £75k a week... My previous post might have had a little bit of sarcasm in it, Possibly.
LCFC FOX Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Love Chris wood, I really hope he gets a run of games
Steven Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMqE07aIqc#t=51 Wood looks in fine form! more then i can say for nugent! Shouldn't that be "Practice"?
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 If I have £10 to spend on a few things from the shop, some are on offer and I get them at a great price, but one item is a bit more expensive than I'd like to pay. I wouldn't consider myself at a loss if I bought them all and came out about where I thought I might be before going in, and with all the things I wanted to start with. You might not agree, but it's certainly not an "utter bollocks" way of looking at it. I agree. You have to look at the overall scenario.
lgfualol Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 This thread is just irritating. I request it to be locked until something actually happens.
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 This thread is just irritating. I request it to be locked until something actually happens. What just so you can have the last word ? no fvcking chance !
dpjfox Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Ireckon NP will soon if not already pissed off with this, as he said there comes a point in and deal when its not viable. I think DeLort will be the next striker to join
Manwell Pablo Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 If I have £10 to spend on a few things from the shop, some are on offer and I get them at a great price, but one item is a bit more expensive than I'd like to pay. I wouldn't consider myself at a loss if I bought them all and came out about where I thought I might be before going in, and with all the things I wanted to start with. You might not agree, but it's certainly not an "utter bollocks" way of looking at it. Quite right I don't agree, this is why I called it utter bollocks , terrible way of looking at it. Paying 8 million for a striker that's no better than what we have because we've signed a few free transfers is terrible terrible logic. To use you analogy, we don't even have to go shopping in the first place as we've already got the item we're shopping for and secondly you can buy a superior brand in another shop down the street for less money. Of course you going to be out of pocket. As I say, this transfer is approaching the Ross McCormack level of embarrassment now. But having said that at least he smashed the goals in last season, I think I'd rather pay the extra three million and get McCormack to be honest!
Happy Fox Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 He is simply not worth it, if he really wants to join us he would put in a transfer request and forgo his bonus, or whatever he is entitled to, let him rot at Brighton and do a Maynard.
Babylon Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Quite right I don't agree, this is why I called it utter bollocks , terrible way of looking at it. Paying 8 million for a striker that's no better than what we have because we've signed a few free transfers is terrible terrible logic. To use you analogy, we don't even have to go shopping in the first place as we've already got the item we're shopping for and secondly you can buy a superior brand in another shop down the street for less money. Of course you going to be out of pocket. As I say, this transfer is approaching the Ross McCormack level of embarrassment now. But having said that at least he smashed the goals in last season, I think I'd rather pay the extra three million and get McCormack to be honest! Do you think Pearson and co. are going into this just randomly picking Ulloa thinking he's no better than we currently have and just constantly bidding for him because they can't be arsed to scout elsewhere. Or do you think they are specifically targeting him because they think he will bring something to the table that we don't currently have, a specific skill set that meets their needs for the current season. Everyone on here has banged on about how great we've been at picking players (with good reason), do you think that's suddenly gone out the window? There are no guarantees with any signing, but they are clearly going to have done their homework. So, if Ulloa is who they want at the club, and they have managed to save money by signing free transfers for other positions, other options they like aren't freely available, then spending a bit more money on said player that you saved elsehwere isn't the end of the world.
Manwell Pablo Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Do you think Pearson and co. are going into this just randomly picking Ulloa thinking he's no better than we currently have and just constantly bidding for him because they can't be arsed to scout elsewhere. Or do you think they are specifically targeting him because they think he will bring something to the table that we don't currently have, a specific skill set that meets their needs for the current season. Everyone on here has banged on about how great we've been at picking players (with good reason), do you think that's suddenly gone out the window? There are no guarantees with any signing, but they are clearly going to have done their homework. So, if Ulloa is who they want at the club, and they have managed to save money by signing free transfers for other positions, other options they like aren't freely available, then spending a bit more money on said player that you saved elsehwere isn't the end of the world I believe Pearson is probably doing what he thinks is right. This does not mean he actually is right. He has signed some good players for small amounts and free's, he has also signed some bad players though, and he has been known to sign players because they've played well for opposing sides against us (Futacs) which is what I believe to be the main motivation here. You can think for yourself you know Babs, you don't have to have blind faith in everything he does without question. Either way he's not an 8 million pound player. Massive amount of money for an unproven player at top level.
Babylon Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 This does not mean he actually is right. And as yet it doesn't mean he's wrong either, if he turns out to be a dog turd then he will have been wrong. And spending that extra money may turn out to be an "utter bullshit" idea. But, it's not at the moment. It could be a brilliant idea, so from their point of view (not yours) spending that little bit extra saved elsewhere might be worthwhile. You can think for yourself you know Babs, you don't have to have blind faith in everything he does without question. Here we go. I'm looking at this from their perspective, not my own. You might not like Ulloa, or want to pay that for him. But if they do then it's not an "utter bullshit" idea from their viewpoint to spend that money. Personally I would like to think there is better value somewhere, but I'm not a scout and I don't have all the facts at hand to say whether there is.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 he has also signed some bad players though, and he has been known to sign players because they've played well for opposing sides against us (Futacs) which is what I believe to be the main motivation here. You can think for yourself you know Babs, you don't have to have blind faith in everything he does without question. Talking of bollocks,
jayfox26 Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 It amazes me how many people on here have a negative opinion of Ulloa, and pretty much every other player we are linked with. I understand that £8m is a lot of money and more than we've ever spent before and I can understand people being wary after the Akinbiyi shocker, but is all seriousness, how many times have you all seen Ulloa play a full 90 minutes? Most of you may say twice, the 2 games he played against us last season, so how can anyone form any sort of negative opinion on him after watching him twice? I'm not saying I think he will be a great signing as I haven't seen enough of him to comment but what I am saying, and this is a fact not an opinion, Nigel and his team know alot more about Ulloa than anyone on here. If we do sign him, he could end up being crap or he could be amazing, who knows, but I don't understand why everyone is so negative towards Nigel's transfer targets when he has had a pretty good record in the transfer market in the past. And as for people saying he's made some bad signings like Futacs, so has every manager in the world. Fergie signed Kleberson, Taibi and Veron just to name a few. But people tend to talk about his good signings like Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo etc. Just like we should have mkre faith in Pearson as he has brought in Knocky, Vardy , Mahrez, wes, drinky etc etc. Fair to say his good signings massively outweigh his bad signings!
Manwell Pablo Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 And as yet it doesn't mean he's wrong either, if he turns out to be a dog turd then he will have been wrong. And spending that extra money may turn out to be an "utter bullshit" idea. But, it's not at the moment. It could be a brilliant idea, so from their point of view (not yours) spending that little bit extra saved elsewhere might be worthwhile. Here we go. I'm looking at this from their perspective, not my own. You might not like Ulloa, or want to pay that for him. But if they do then it's not an "utter bullshit" idea from their viewpoint to spend that money. Personally I would like to think there is better value somewhere, but I'm not a scout and I don't have all the facts at hand to say whether there is. Why are you putting something I haven't said in quotation marks? I am somewhat perplexed as to what you are arguing to be honest, I am well aware it's not a stupid idea from their perspective, other wise I'd imagine they wouldn't be doing it. However, I am putting across my opinion, having seen a reasonable amount of him, that paying 8 Million for him is bordering on the ridiculous (what they think, is another matter) and the fact we've signed three free's is neither here nor there I'd imagine most teams sign around that many free agents most seasons. I wasn't exactly thrilled when we were putting in the 3,4,5 Million pound bids, to be honest, the money being talked about now is barmy. Of course there is better value out there somewhere, you and I aren't going to find it as we can't discuss fee's with potential players and their clubs. it doesn't take a genius to work out 8 Million for Leonardo Ulloa doesn't add up though.
Dan Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMqE07aIqc#t=51 Wood looks in fine form! more then i can say for nugent! The lad can finish. Undoubtedly. It's a shame he's got so little else to his game. GTF could he look any less like a footballer?
gibbin82 Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Of course there is better value out there somewhere, you and I aren't going to find it as we can't discuss fee's with potential players and their clubs. it doesn't take a genius to work out 8 Million for Leonardo Ulloa doesn't add up though.Clearly as there is no other clubs racing to sign Ulloa, at £7-8 million is far more than his market transfer value, however if he proves to make the difference between survival and relegation his value to Leicester would be far more than his actual market value. As above trust Nigel to bring in what we need and don't worry about the cost, after all I am sure both Pearson and Top have considered the value of any player to the club to achieve their objectives. The only thing that does bother me about the fee, judging from many of the comments on this thread is that if he doesn't hit the ground running, people are not going to give him time to settle.
Perseus Posted 17 July 2014 Posted 17 July 2014 Clearly as there is no other clubs racing to sign Ulloa, at £7-8 million is far more than his market transfer value, however if he proves to make the difference between survival and relegation his value to Leicester would be far more than his actual market value. As above trust Nigel to bring in what we need and don't worry about the cost, after all I am sure both Pearson and Top have considered the value of any player to the club to achieve their objectives. The only thing that does bother me about the fee, judging from many of the comments on this thread is that if he doesn't hit the ground running, people are not going to give him time to settle. Ulloa had the ball in the net after a few minutes on his debut for Brighton.Offside. He scored a typical headed goal in the second half the only forward meeting a deep cross going between two defenders. Lost 2-3 at home. Not in the Albion team tonight: http://www.seagulls.co.uk/news/article/live-albion-0-real-betis-0-1765990.aspx Not on the subs bench either. Imaginary injury? His agent should have got a release clause inserted in his contract? Toko also missing so maybe it does not mean anything? When Bridcutt was sold to Sunderland for a knock-down price, the player asked for a transfer. Albion were pissed of with Upson because he gave away a silly penalty in the play-offs. Aaron Hughes signed as an equal replacement. Ulloa's temperament seems a bit like Linekers. Not really phased by fouling on him. Complains a lot but just gets on with the game.
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