tickler28 Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Did Schwarzer really have no chance of saving Everton's first? Looks like it was a deflected shot more than anything to me. No it wasn't deflected but he anticipated it would be which was why he was wrong footed
AKCJ Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Agree and I don't know how, with three centre halves in our team. Wes Morgan doesn't count.
MC Prussian Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 In this league, you're up against some of the best, if not the best attacking formations in the World. Upson could actually find back to his old form (the one he displayed at Brighton). However, together with Morgan I normally fear for the worst. With wingers and forwards of such quality storming towards our back four/five, you can usually expect goalscoring chances for the opposition unheard of in the Championship. Whilst one part of me wants our defense getting better, I don't see what we can do about it with the players at our disposal. Huth is obviously an improvement - I wonder how he'd fare with Wasilewski in the center?
Leicesterpool Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 One bit of criticism for Pearson is why wasn't even Albrighton on the bench? Also I wouldn't have took off cambiasso.
LanguedocFox Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Morgan has come under a lot of criticism recently, but today he was fantastic. The number of blocks and interceptions he made, especially the one leading up to our first goal. Cambiasso was unbelievable today, the speediness of thought is unreal. Nugent and Vardy were excellent as well. I agree 100%: I'd add Kramaric in for praise as well - never looked like his head dropped.
Kitchandro Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 No, we played the same 5-2-3 all game. Mahrez and Schlupp didn't take their chance today. But you're not telling me that you foresaw that. Nobody argued that Nuge and Vardy should play in front of Mahrez and Schlupp. It was 5-4-1 and you know it was. What chance did Mahrez have? I can't remember it. I remember Schlupp had 2, and that was it. Two chances in an hour is poor. Kramaric was still dropping deep all the while instead of having service in the box.
AKCJ Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 No we didn't. You can see the way we're set up Kramaric is alone (and needs support ffs). It's a 541, don't kid yourself. Eh? Did you even bother watching?
Webbo Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Changed the game when he took Cambiasso off. He was running the game,and it took the momentum away from us. Yeah because Everton weren't threatening at all until then.
Fox42 Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Deflating. I think that's the nail in the coffin for me.
Fox92 Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Eh? Did you even bother watching? You actually think that was 523? Look how deep Schlupp and Mahrez were you can see it's four across midfield.
Osavo Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 That's why Liam Moore would be a better option than Upson,he has the pace to cover Usually only to cover himself though. Seriously, Moore cannot start in the prem for us, his positioning and marking are just not up to scratch at this level.
Callabinho Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 It's a good point, shame we couldn't hold on but a point on the road can't be rubbished, we've shown some fight and spirit today something we can carry on into the next games, and despite the mountains of criticism that Wes has received over the last few weeks, he was fantastic. I'm happy with that result.
Kitchandro Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Someone ban this child. Mature. A lot of people want Pearson to go, the forum would be pretty empty if it was just full of people that blindly support him.
GingerrrFox Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Anyone who wants to change this formation is on something. Aside from the 2nd half at Villa we've looked a much better side since we've played it. It's a 5-2-3 in possession and a 5-4-1 when we don't have the ball. We gave Arsenal a hell of a game in defeat and came so close to a massive win at Goodison. Changing it would be mental.
MooseBreath Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 We kept the same 541 formation throughout the game. The only difference was that we put our chances away in the 2nd half. There was no change to the system at all so I don't understand why people are saying the change worked. There was no change. Clearly we can score goals playing 541, the problem is the defence. Everton should have scored more. In truth something like 6-4 would have been a reasonable result. Had we played four at the back I dread to think how many we would have conceded. Right tactics, wrong personnel. Good result ordinarily, but we really needed a win.
BoyJones Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Just shows that pace doesn't mean tempo. So pleased when Mayrez and Schlupp went off, we brought on less pace but more control. Pity Cambiasso was knackered, with him on we would have seen out the game. Gutted but we are still in there. Well played City. 36 points to play for, I will take only 18. 36 points should stay up this year, with a decent goal difference.
Babylon Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Of course we did. Hitting them on the break the odd time isn't playing attacking football. We were truly attacking when we were behind and at 1-1, that is what we failed to do at 0-0 and 2-1.There are two teams on the pitch, how they play can dictate how we play. I could say they stopped playing at 1-0 and that let us back in, at 2-1 they then had to go back on the attack and that again changed how we had to play.
Richmondfox Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Points are what we need and 1 from a much better team is better than none and should give confidence to the team. We needed a DM rather than three at the back, the amount of times the defence stood off and got themselves into trouble or the wing backs not helping is frustrating. Once again Jeff not taking his chances when they are gifted to him. Simpson at RWB is pointless, he doesn't offer anything for Mahrez and is too slow in releasing the ball to him. I
JAPANFOX1 Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 I'm sorry, but I wish people like you would fvck off. We played well today, with very few weak spots. I watched most of yesterday's games, and I can tell you, we are miles better than QPR, Burnley, Villa, Sunderland, and Hull. We are going to stay up if we play like that all season. Hate to be the one to break the bad news here -- we only have 12 games left and we have had chance to play like that (and get a point) for the past 26 games..... Very few weak spots?!?!?! Have you seen our left and right backs?!?!? Have you seen the support given to a 9 million quid striker?!?!? Do you know the GK is 42 years old?!?!?! Have you seen our ability to defend under pressure !?!?!?!? I would happily be SHITTER than the aforementioned teams if only we could swap points with them.....
Gio Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Don't rate upson at all. At fault for so many of their chances, luckily they messed up most of them. Certainly doesn't have the stamina to play the full 90 minutes. Back 2 of Was and Huth or if we have to stick with 3 at the back then Was, Huth and Morgan/Moore would be better. Definitely would have taken a draw before the game and after being 1-0 it's a good result, just a shame we couldn't hold on. Huth was brilliant as well, on another level compared to Morgan and Upson
LanguedocFox Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Deflating. I think that's the nail in the coffin for me. Why?? There's 12 matches to play.
AKCJ Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 It was 5-4-1 and you know it was. What chance did Mahrez have? I can't remember it. I remember Schlupp had 2, and that was it. Two chances in an hour is poor. Kramaric was still dropping deep all the while instead of having service in the box. Apologies, I should have made it easier for you to understand. Mahrez and Schlupp didn't take their chance to prove themselves. They were given starting positions but let the team down with poor performances (Mahrez in particular). It was absolutely not a 5-4-1. James and Cambiasso dropped deep while Mahrez, Schlupp and Kramaric were the attackers.
Vardinhio Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Unlucky not to get three points but Everton always looked like scoring, still a good point. 4 points from relegation and the three teams above us are just as bad. Let's get Man City out the way and then we really need to kick on.
EnglishOxide Posted 22 February 2015 Posted 22 February 2015 Yes but WE scored. Lukaku still had loads of chances when we tried to defend. The difference, the only difference, is that when WE attacked, WE looked like scoring, and did. It's not all about what they do, WE need to make things happen and WE need to score goals. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Lukaku barely had a chance up to Naismith's goal. He kept having to come deep for the ball. Of course we scored. But we could also have scored at the end of the first half and at the beginning of the second when we were playing defensive. Your argument purely seems to be 'we should play 4-4-facking-2'. As soon as the game opened up Everton looked capable of scoring just as much as we did.
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