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SURVIVAL - 20 points in 12 games

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https://www.thesportspredictor.com/#/ For anyone who can be bothered, this works like the old BBC predictor. Whatever happens, it's certainly looking as though it's going to be fewer points than usual to survive.

Just did that myself, we finished 16th on 35 points. Burnely, QPR and Villa went down. I did give us a generous win against West Ham at home and nicking 3 points from Burnely away though.

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Chelsea - Loss (18 points)
Man City - Loss (18 points)
Hull - Win (21 points)
Tottenham - Loss (21 points)
West Ham - Loss (21 points)
West Brom - Draw (22 points)
Swansea - Draw (23 points)
Burnley - Win (26 points)
Newcastle - Win (29 points)
Southampton - Loss (29 points)
Sunderland - Draw (30 points)
QPR - Win (33 points)

 

 

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I think this is a very black and white way of looking at it - and although its essentially the same thing I prefer to think of it as a game by game progression.

 

Question should be - how at which point could we get out of the relegation zone, and could we then maintain 17th place (or better)?

 

I'm sure we will lose next week, but looking at the other fixtures I think theres a good chance that the gap will still be 4 points with a game in hand.  

 

Beat Hull, and we are back to 1 point gap with a game in hand - you can see it's not that unlikely that we can get out of the the relegation zone on a fixture by fixture basis.

 

I'll stand by what I said at the start of the season - that we will stay up by the skin of our teeth on the last day of the season.

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https://www.thesportspredictor.com/#/ For anyone who can be bothered, this works like the old BBC predictor. Whatever happens, it's certainly looking as though it's going to be fewer points than usual to survive.

 

Did this as honestly as I'm capable of.....and we stayed up with 32 points by beating QPR on the last day, finishing 15th!

Hull, QPR & Villa went down with 30, 28 & 28 points respectively. We also finished 1pt ahead of Burnley & Sunderland. Chelsea strolled to the title, Arsenal nearly caught Man C, Liverpoool pipped Man U & Palace finished 10th.

 

Chelsea - Loss 

Man City - Loss 

Hull - Win 

Tottenham - Loss 

West Ham - Draw

West Brom - Draw 

Swansea - Draw 

Burnley - Draw

Newcastle - Win 

Southampton - Loss

Sunderland - Draw 

QPR - Win

 

 

I do think that a lower than usual points total will be needed to stay up this season, though probably not as low as 31-32.

My predictions didn't allow for many surprise wins by strugglers against upper/mid-table teams, and there will be some.....we just need to make sure that we get 1 or 2.

 

There's still hope....which makes today's late goal all the more frustrating.

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we won't get to  30 points, no way.

today  was a big game, two points dropped.

could've won it if we'd had a defence that  doesn't leak like the titanic.

we played a team  that  had scored 2 goals in their last  4 home games and allowed them  to  score as many in 1 half.

the defence has been our undoing all  season, and will continue to be.

with  cambiasso and james and kramaric in such  good form it's shame the rest  around them  just  aren't stepping up.

i give pearson  credit today  for making the change he should've made last  week in  bringing off mahrez and schlupp transformed the game for once.

but both  of them  look like they  need some bench time.

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Think we only need 35-36 but expecting us to get between 28-32.

 

Lots of winnable games on paper in the run in but we've consistently failed to beat these sorts of teams all season

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Once we get past Man City it's 11 games with 7 at home and only Chelsea to play out of the big boys. Not saying we will do it but if you could pick a run in then ours wouldn't be far off to try and achieve the great escape.

Will be ups and downs along the way but Monday morning is bad enough without living in hope of the miracle.

COYF

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Can we do it? Do the maths, it's highly unlikely and highly improbable.

 

You only have to look at our record so far this season. What you're expecting the lads to do in the remaining games is nothing short of fanciful.

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Can we do it? Do the maths, it's highly unlikely and highly improbable.

 

You only have to look at our record so far this season. What you're expecting the lads to do in the remaining games is nothing short of fanciful.

Like someone pointed out earlier, football is not an equation.

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It would just take one of the three teams above us to go on a little run to scupper our chances of survival.

We would need a massive turnaround in fortunes, and we just can't keep shipping goals the way we have.

I do not see us improving substantially as every passing game without a win will sap morale and belief even more.

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Momentum and confidence can do funny things to a team. Pick up 2 wins on the bounce and we'll likely be within touching distance again. Stranger things have happened in football. 3 wins would all but half the total we require to survive. The problem is falling on the right side of a 1 goal win, which this season we have struggled really badly with doing. Its a very tough ask but not beyond our reach.

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Any of the teams below Everton could go down this season.

 

All it takes is teams to lose a few games and they could end up bottom of the league. 

 

Would look so much better if we had taken the 3 points at Goodison but we still are in with a shout.

 

Man City draw (19)
Hull win (22)
Tottenham win (25)
West Ham win (28)
West Brom win (31)
Swansea win (34)
Burnley win (37)

Chelsea draw (38)
Newcastle win (41)
Southampton win (44)
Sunderland win (47)
QPR win (50)

 

Even if we do half as good as that, we will stay up!

 

We have been the better team in the majority of games we have played, hardly anyone can believe we are bottom of the league based on the performances we have put in.

 

We could have beat Everton, Arsenal, Palace, Stoke, Liverpool, Spurs, Man City, Villa, QPR, Sunderland, West Brom, Newcastle and so on... Then things would be a lot different.

 

Pearson has got it right in most games and people are just being over critical based on our position in the league, if we had the rub of the green in half the games we should have won we would be mid table at least.

 

Lets hope we get a bit of luck in the remainder of the season.

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Well out of the bottom 5 teams we do look like we have the easiest run in we can do this c'mon city.

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My pointless stab at it as im bored..

 

Man City A Lose

Hull H Win

Spurs A Lose

West Ham H Draw

WBA A Lose

Swansea H Draw

Burnley A Draw

Chelsea H Lose

Newcastle H Win

Southampton H Lose

Sunderland A Draw

QPR H Win

 

31 Points Relegated 19th Position. Leaping above QPR on the last day with a win in the dead rubber.

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Bored too...


 


Man City A Lose (18)


Hull H Draw (19)


Spurs A Lose (19)


West Ham H Lose (19)


WBA A Win (22)


Swansea H Draw (23)


Burnley A Lose (23)


Chelsea H Lose (23)


Newcastle H Draw (24)


Southampton H Lose (24)


Sunderland A Win (27)


QPR H Draw (28)


 


Relegated 20th place along with QPR and Aston Villa.


Posted

Like someone pointed out earlier, football is not an equation.

Neither is it so wildly unpredictable that it's reasonable to suggest that Leicester might suddenly turn into a top-four team after having been doggo all season.

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Neither is it so wildly unpredictable that it's reasonable to suggest that Leicester might suddenly turn into a top-four team after having been doggo all season.

We don't need the form of a top four team... 14/15 points could see us safe not 20, that's the form of someone around 13th at the minute over the last 12 games.

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