Raw Dykes Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 Schwarzer as our back up,let's just hope Kasper doesn't get injured. Too right. Thankfully, Claudio said he'll be looking for a GK. Also, I think Schwarzer might be a pretty good unofficial GK coach - Kasper was way better after his injury last season, and I reckon it's probably down to training with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsthejoeker Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 Id rather have Hamer playing games than sat on the bench. This is a good deal for all parties involved. Schwarzer is the veteran keeper we've been missing for a while, every club has one to look over and pass on advice to the younger no.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 The Spurs free kick and his questionable distribution aside, he's a great keeper and far too good to be our third choice, was gutted when he was dropped last season but luckily Kasper found his form after Schwarzer's stint. If he worked on his kicking I'd say he'd be first choice, great reactions and more commanding than Kasper. Also, beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 I'm not sure loaning him to the enemy is a good idea? Why? He won't play against us, he'll play regular football and he doesn't need to move house. If he'd gone to Watford or Norwich then that would be a different scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 My only concern with loaning to Forest is their finances. They are beginning to develop a reputation for not paying bills on time. Taken from the Guardian when Forest were first placed under a transfer embargo "There is no suggestion that the Forest chairman and owner, Fawaz al-Hasawi, is experiencing financial difficulties but there have been issues regarding the distribution of money since the Kuwaiti’s takeover of the club in the summer of 2012. The Reds have been late in paying clubs for players, with Hull and Palace thought to have been left waiting for payments owed for the Tom Ince and Jack Hunt loan deals. Many agents and club suppliers are also understood to have been paid late – or are still awaiting money." and from the Derby Evening Telegraph DERBY County are making no official comment about a report that they have complained to the Football League over an unpaid £85,000 bill from rivals Nottingham Forest. The Daily Telegraph has reported that the two clubs are rowing over a payment related to ticket money from their meeting at the iPro Stadium last month. Derby are said to have written a letter to the League and demanded action be taken. They allege that Forest missed a seven-day deadline to repay the outstanding amount last week and have been un-cooperative on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 I like Hamer. Did nothing wrong while Kasper was injured and shouldn't have been dropped. I prefer Hamer to Schwazer. But fair play if he actually wants to play football, I can understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 He was out last night at his gay bar (Apres Lounge) sums him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 Think Forest would be chuffed to be classes as a rival, it gives us the chance to get a 3rd choice player game time at a decent level and lets be honest if he is covering Matt Mills he will get plenty of practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 We lost smith as well, so a young keeper is probably needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 if kasper gets injured surely we would recall hamer anyway, we will still need cover for Schwarzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 What is his contract situation? I've been told it's a season loan with a view to a permanent transfer at the end if it suits all parties (is he out of contract at the end of the season?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUDZY Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 It would be nice to see NIGEL getting a position at Forest...we would have two teams to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Boos Up Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 I like the man! Been here a while and we gave him a chance in PL. He F*^k£d up... free kick against Spurs! I remember him punching the ground knowing it. Schwarzer has a year to go as our No. 2 and don't forget Schmeichel's dad wanted in to manage. Peter will always be pushing for his son to stand between the sticks at old Trafford. So keeping Ben in form and learning at (I hate to say it) a good standard championship side is only in our best interest. Perhaps a future star for Leicester, so why lose him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 26 July 2015 Share Posted 26 July 2015 A sensible move all round. It's a simple choice between experience over a good up and coming keeper. Experience usually wins out most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted 27 July 2015 Share Posted 27 July 2015 What is his contract situation? I've been told it's a season loan with a view to a permanent transfer at the end if it suits all parties (is he out of contract at the end of the season?) he signed a 4 year deal I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0901 Posted 27 July 2015 Share Posted 27 July 2015 They do make a good point on the forum, Hamer's distribution is not all that bad, but we are comparing him to Schmeicel who can, in their words, twat the ball. Wish him the best though, too good for third choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calidafox Posted 27 July 2015 Share Posted 27 July 2015 Yes Hamer is on 4year contract as are a number other players all of which would probably had a clause in their contacts that should we be relegated result in a big pay cut possible reason for the great escape not Pearson's motivation at all. Saw somewhere on here that Hamer was on the bench at Man U the decision was not a footballing one,this leads me to think that Peason's buddy Marc's possible hefty pay packet which had to be justified to the detriment of the team and results,this may have contributed to him getting the bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 27 July 2015 Share Posted 27 July 2015 Not sure, but I think I saw him in 1573 earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 Yes Hamer is on 4year contract as are a number other players all of which would probably had a clause in their contacts that should we be relegated result in a big pay cut possible reason for the great escape not Pearson's motivation at all. Saw somewhere on here that Hamer was on the bench at Man U the decision was not a footballing one,this leads me to think that Peason's buddy Marc's possible hefty pay packet which had to be justified to the detriment of the team and results,this may have contributed to him getting the bullet The decision to leave Hamer out WAS a footballing one. Pearson subsequently called Hamer into his office. Pearson told Hamer he'd done nothing much wrong but his gut feeling was to go with the experience of Schwarzer ahead of him and he would ultimately have to live and die by that decision. Hamer appreciated Pearson's honesty and knuckled down in training. There was some daft story doing the rounds about Pearson telling Hamer to get his beard cut and that led to a fall out but that was actually a load of bullshiit. Also... "a number other players all of which would probably had a clause in their contacts that should we be relegated result in a big pay cut possible reason for the great escape not Pearson's motivation at all" Not sure that argument stacks up. If these players wanted to avoid the pay cut following relegation, why did they leave it until the last nine games to suddenly pull their finger out? The players were behind NP all season - the credit for the great escape was not down to one person, it was down to many things, Pearson included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loggy88 Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 Why is Schwarzer no2?! He is very old even for a keeper and he wasn't agile enough for me when he played last season. Hamer did pretty well when he played last season and for crying out loud he's about 20 years younger!! Strange one for me. The only good night is we can recall him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 I''ll stick my head out....we will get a new goalkeeper before, we see one CM.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Ulike Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 The decision to leave Hamer out WAS a footballing one. Pearson subsequently called Hamer into his office. Pearson told Hamer he'd done nothing much wrong but his gut feeling was to go with the experience of Schwarzer ahead of him and he would ultimately have to live and die by that decision. Hamer appreciated Pearson's honesty and knuckled down in training. There was some daft story doing the rounds about Pearson telling Hamer to get his beard cut and that led to a fall out but that was actually a load of bullshiit. Also... "a number other players all of which would probably had a clause in their contacts that should we be relegated result in a big pay cut possible reason for the great escape not Pearson's motivation at all" Not sure that argument stacks up. If these players wanted to avoid the pay cut following relegation, why did they leave it until the last nine games to suddenly pull their finger out? The players were behind NP all season - the credit for the great escape was not down to one person, it was down to many things, Pearson included. Well the decision to keep faith with Schwarzer after his gaff against Villa certainly wasn't a football decision. Bizarre that, once again, Ranieri is just echoing the decision already made by Pearson... Who is actually making all these calls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 Why is Schwarzer no2?! He is very old even for a keeper and he wasn't agile enough for me when he played last season. Hamer did pretty well when he played last season and for crying out loud he's about 20 years younger!! Strange one for me. The only good night is we can recall him. If we have a recall option on Hamer then it makes perfect sense for him to be on loan with Schwarzer on the bench. Hamer improves and is ready if needed, we have an experienced keeper on the bench should something happen to Kasper short term. Who also adds to the club with his experience The alternative is Hamer on the bench all season, if Kasper remains injury free he gets no game time and stagnates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 Well the decision to keep faith with Schwarzer after his gaff against Villa certainly wasn't a football decision. Bizarre that, once again, Ranieri is just echoing the decision already made by Pearson... Who is actually making all these calls? Was Ranieri here when Hamer's loan deal was agreed? Pearson's persistence with Schwarzer was an odd one, useful to have as cover and for his experience, but we should have a better numbe 2. Hamer will get his chance at Forest and if he proves himself he will be recalled if not we'll be shopping around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 28 July 2015 Share Posted 28 July 2015 The decision to leave Hamer out WAS a footballing one. Pearson subsequently called Hamer into his office. Pearson told Hamer he'd done nothing much wrong but his gut feeling was to go with the experience of Schwarzer ahead of him and he would ultimately have to live and die by that decision. Hamer appreciated Pearson's honesty and knuckled down in training. There was some daft story doing the rounds about Pearson telling Hamer to get his beard cut and that led to a fall out but that was actually a load of bullshiit. Also... "a number other players all of which would probably had a clause in their contacts that should we be relegated result in a big pay cut possible reason for the great escape not Pearson's motivation at all" Not sure that argument stacks up. If these players wanted to avoid the pay cut following relegation, why did they leave it until the last nine games to suddenly pull their finger out? The players were behind NP all season - the credit for the great escape was not down to one person, it was down to many things, Pearson included. Booooo. If the decision was a footballing one what does that mean for all the 'Pearson is a nutter' loons? Shame on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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