Jeff Schlupp

[Bob Weasel Fox]

I think the point people are making is pretty simple: He has improved massively this season, more so then anyone else in the squad. He is still very young and has plenty of time to improve the finer aspects of his game, if he continues this level of progression we could have a diamond on our hands.

We dont need the money! So why is being ambitious enough to want to keep hold of our promising players getting too carried away? Of course we should only be willing to sell for outrageous amounts.

Or do you lack that ambition and think we should snap their hands off at a reasonable fee now and ignore what we want to accomplish in the future?

Good post

[Dan]

Or do you lack that ambition and think we should snap their hands off at a reasonable fee now and ignore what we want to accomplish in the future?

 

Lack of ambition? You would honestly turn down twenty million pounds for Jeff Schlupp?

 

I agree we don't need to sell but we'd be mad to turn that down. We could replace him and have at LEAST ten million spare change.

 

I'd rather we don't sell him (we aren't getting an offer of £20mil) but he's got a long, long way to go before you can talk of those kinds of figures.

[AKCJ]

If you offered me north of 8m i'd take it.

 

If you offered me 20m i'd probably be laughing so hard that I wouldn't make all the way it to the bank.

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

Why would 20 million be so funny? Surely if a team paid that and developed him and then made a profit after he had served them well the joke would be on us. Do we want to be a team that just sells their players as their getting better and better. I would rather we didn't sell him at all and see how good he can become under our development.

[deep blue]

Why would 20 million be so funny? Surely if a team paid that and developed him and then made a profit after he had served them well the joke would be on us. Do we want to be a team that just sells their players as their getting better and better. I would rather we didn't sell him at all and see how good he can become under our development.

I agree 100%.

[Dan]

Because he's still very hit and miss. He's improving, don't get me wrong, he's someone I'd rather hang onto, but we can get better with that kind of money. Twenty million is absurd.

 

Wouldn't see the point in taking eight though.

[shailen]

He's not worth a anything near 20 but I wouldn't take less than that. He has everything to become the complete player in 2/3 years. I'm sure we'll regret it if we were to sell him now

[HesNotGudjonsonn2]

Exactly, he could simply be worth a lot more to us in the long run and not just in potential selling fee. He might become integral to our push on and up the division.

[Lambert09]

Lack of ambition? You would honestly turn down twenty million pounds for Jeff Schlupp?

 

I agree we don't need to sell but we'd be mad to turn that down. We could replace him and have at LEAST ten million spare change.

 

I'd rather we don't sell him (we aren't getting an offer of £20mil) but he's got a long, long way to go before you can talk of those kinds of figures.

 

I think that falls under the outrageous category I mentioned in my post 

[LCFC FOX]

20million? Seriously guys? He's no way near that yet.

[Vlad the Fox]

It's not about the money though and we aren't in a situation of having to sell to bring players in. We are in the process of building and progressing and the only reason any of our top players should move on is if they express a wish to leave or if we no longer feel we need them. Having to continuously replace players that we sell every time a decent offer comes in sends out a message to other clubs and our players and will make our job even more difficult.

[SecretPro]

Schlupp has improved this year, but his first touch is still a stinker and it's a hard trait to improve. He also needs to learn to shoot across goal and not at the near post. At the minute he is nowhere near being a £20-£30million pound player and although he may achieve at City if we keep him, I doubt he will ever be in that price bracket.

[Guest Col city fan]

Schlupp has improved this year, but his first touch is still a stinker and it's a hard trait to improve. He also needs to learn to shoot across goal and not at the near post. At the minute he is nowhere near being a £20-£30million pound player and although he may achieve at City if we keep him, I doubt he will ever be in that price bracket.

I think you know what you get with Schlupp.

He's instinctive. He plays on instinct. He's not the brightest player ever.

It could be that his 'composure' never radically improves?

BUT. If you play to his strengths. .ie let him get forward on the overlap as a wing - back, I think he could be phenomenal.

It's just a feeling I've had about Schlupp for ages. That he's going to be a much better footballer than most thought he would be.

[Guest MattP]

I think the future of Schulpp here probably depends on the formation we intend to play, latter stage of the season we finally found a position where he could excel, everything went to his strength and we could hide his weaknesses, we didn't need him to create so much and defensively he had cover and wasn't needed to cover the back post aerially.

 

If we are intending to go back to 4-4-2 I don't see a spot for him in the team, if we are playing 3-5-2 then he's perfect for that LWB slot.

 

He's like a 2015 left sided version of Andy impey.

[LCCFox96]

I think the future of Schulpp here probably depends on the formation we intend to play, latter stage of the season we finally found a position where he could excel, everything went to his strength and we could hide his weaknesses, we didn't need him to create so much and defensively he had cover and wasn't needed to cover the back post aerially.

 

If we are intending to go back to 4-4-2 I don't see a spot for him in the team, if we are playing 3-5-2 then he's perfect for that LWB slot.

 

He's like a 2015 left sided version of Andy impey.

 

Agree with this 100%. For so long Schlupp was the man without a set position in our team, indeed the only player in the squad to have that problem. But he's made the LWB role his own in the great escape and if we stick with that formation, like you say, I can see him tying it down long term as he is essential to our style of play in that formation.  

[Jazzy_Jeff]

I think the future of Schulpp here probably depends on the formation we intend to play, latter stage of the season we finally found a position where he could excel, everything went to his strength and we could hide his weaknesses, we didn't need him to create so much and defensively he had cover and wasn't needed to cover the back post aerially.

 

If we are intending to go back to 4-4-2 I don't see a spot for him in the team, if we are playing 3-5-2 then he's perfect for that LWB slot.

 

He's like a 2015 left sided version of Andy impey.

Can you not see him playing in front of Fuchs at times if we need a adopt more of a defensive approach?

[Kitchandro]

He's not worth a anything near 20 but I wouldn't take less than that. He has everything to become the complete player in 2/3 years. I'm sure we'll regret it if we were to sell him now

 

Yeh apart from footballing ability and a brain.

 

If we got £20 million for Schlupp it would be the most amazing business any club has ever done.

 

Don't get me wrong he's useful at times and worth some money but come on, he's never going to be a 'complete player'.

[dannythefox]

He won't be going anywhere he's been brilliant for us, he wouldn't get anywhere near arsenal first team.

[Ric Flair]

I think the future of Schulpp here probably depends on the formation we intend to play, latter stage of the season we finally found a position where he could excel, everything went to his strength and we could hide his weaknesses, we didn't need him to create so much and defensively he had cover and wasn't needed to cover the back post aerially.

If we are intending to go back to 4-4-2 I don't see a spot for him in the team, if we are playing 3-5-2 then he's perfect for that LWB slot.

He's like a 2015 left sided version of Andy impey.

But with a slightly longer neck

[Guest]

Amazing how people are now saying £20m (even £30m) - posters always pick up the most extreme and then exaggerate further.

 

He's worth as much as someone will pay for him or as much as it would cost us to replace him.

 

I can't see anyone offering £13m-£15m but we'd need that much to replace him with a similar level player, so I wouldn't accept any less - of course I hope we keep him over the long term.

[Ric Flair]

He's worth about £5 million, he can't even do the basic things right half the time. Yes, he has potential but if he wasn't our player we'd not think much to him.

[Guest MattP]

Can you not see him playing in front of Fuchs at times if we need a adopt more of a defensive approach?

 

Possibly, but I think last season showed just how important it is to stick with a formation and let players stick to a position, as soon as Schulpp, Albrighton, Mahrez etc stopped being shifted in/out and were kept to a regular spot in a regular formation individual and team performance improved considerably. I think consistency is extremely important.

But with a slightly longer neck

 

"Impey Impey where's your neck" - Still makes me laugh.

[Vicki Vixen]

I would like to see Jeff stay. He is exciting to watch, has great stamina, and was one of our most effective attacking players last season.

What seems to have been missed in the posts on this thread is what Jeff wants. If he wants to play Champions League football, as most ambitious players do, then he may be asking to leave. While he's under contract, Nigel won't keep someone here who would rather be somewhere else. It could be out of our hands. There are plenty of other clubs who don't have to sell for financial reasons (Atletico Madrid the classic example) but who have to because their best players want to step up to the next level, whether that's to earn a higher wage or play for a more prestigious club, or a combination of the two.

[4everfox]

Yeh apart from footballing ability and a brain.

If we got £20 million for Schlupp it would be the most amazing business any club has ever done.

Don't get me wrong he's useful at times and worth some money but come on, he's never going to be a 'complete player'.

Apart from his footballing ability? 'Useful' at times? Have you been on holiday for the last six months? If that is your opinion then you are an ostrich. Your head is clearly in the sand. Are you flexible enough to get your head in the sand? My suspicion would be no. I can, you can't. Sorry son, but you are daft.

[LAprice_]

He's worth about £5 million, he can't even do the basic things right half the time. Yes, he has potential but if he wasn't our player we'd not think much to him.

 

That's not entirely true.

 

I actually think he's one of the players that people fear playing against. Rightly or wrongly, he's incredibly unpredictable on the ball. His pace and strength are up there with the best in the league. The attributes that he lacks are typically picked up at a later age: Positioning, passing, vision, etc...