Babylon Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 I'm glad its only a minority who think it's all okay then! Indeed... anyone referring to a Japanese person as a Jap or collectively Japs should be branded racist and punished. Too true..Cant but love them bastard Japs! P.S waiting for someone to remark about 'That's how City play anyway" But i aint gonna...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry_LCFC Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Tbh the term brit could be seen as racist if used in a certain way. If someone is abusing someone on the basis that are British i.e. "Get out the way you stupid idiot brit" by the letter of the law that's racist. I wouldn't be offended by it tbh but it's the same principle. Single out the race of someone to abuse them, it's racist. That said, the video of vardy is so badly manipulated it is impossible to form a judgement. The sun are about as low as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 What good has that casino done for the people and city of Leicester?! Now they release a video just to f**ck over the name of the football club as well...storm in a tea cup sums it up...Vardy shouldn't be addressing the guy with that word in an aggressive manner though - I would have been offended I would think they will lose some big punters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Is Jap racist? Racism depends on context, not just using a word a word alone isn't racist. Which is why Kanye Weat can get 90,000 people at Glastonbury shouting nigger whereas if I used it in the street I would get my head kicked in. Context: If Vardy had said "it was great to play upfront with the jap today I think we will form a great partnership." He is clearly not being racist. If he said "I fvcking hate japs" he is. In this context he seems to be using jap to identify the person that has been pissing him off, or get his attention. "Yo jap, come here I want to give you a hug" isn't racist in my eyes. So why is "yo jap, jog on"? If he said "jog on you jap" then it sounds a lot worse. "Yo jap", is the same as "excuse me gentleman of oriental origin". You could say that jap has a deeper racist connotation, like nip paki or nigger, but not knowing that is excusable as it is used in common culture, see all the jap based puns in the Sun and it is just a shortening of Japanese and only means a Japanese person. Like when Alan Hansen referred to coloured players on motd he wasn't being racist despite using a racist term, he just didn't know it was racist, he apologised as ignorance isn't an excuse but he wasn't branded a racist. Now at the moment there is a lot of doubt over what was said. Vardy and the other players have said it was chap the video isn't clear enough to prove otherwise so until we get some further evidence we should not throw any accusations of racism around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Indeed... anyone referring to a Japanese person as a Jap or collectively Japs should be branded racist and punished.WOW Babs you had to trawl through my posts to find that...you need a girlfriend mate!!Look up context in a dictionary. I heard lads saying yday "that jap looks decent" that's abit different to aggressively shouting and hollowing "oi jap" constantly and then having to be restrained by a team mate. But I'm sure your right...as usual!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 This is ridiculous. No one in the world would say yo jap walk on. The sun are using racism to grab peoples attention, then proceeding to use the story to make vardy out to be an aggressive lunatic because his nickname is the cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettsj2 Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 The fact the Sun have published this is laughable. There are multiple stories people have highlighted where they use the term 'Jap' in their headline!! This whole thing is ridiculous. The audio isnt at all clear so he could well be saying 'chap'. Is there any other angles that show who he's speaking to? Whole thing is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Babs quoting something I said from 2007!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 why are people blaming the sun? If Vardy acted like a professional then they wouldn't have anything to smear him with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 From what I've heard from a colleague who lives in Sheffield, Vardy is (or certainly was) a little bit of a shite, particularly when out and about but even considering that, this is a non story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmilner Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 my mate was there when it happened and this has been spoke about . yep it was " jap" and yes it was out of order . once again , spring forward the " it cant be true " " jap isn't racist" nonsence . he behaved like a **** , should've known better and should be punished by the club . but hes a Leicester player hence he should do as he likes attitude arises . be honest , hes a twat . his mrs sits there laughing at his antics , he didn't stand a chance as all casinos are filmed with sound and it looks like their film to me . and after simpson and the three orgy students he should've known better .itll blow over but who next ffs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Babs quoting something I said from 2007!!!! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulfoxide Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 I'm British & have been referred to as a Brit many times & don't consider it to be racist. However, Vardey is clearly being rudely abrupt with this guy but we do not know the context in detail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 WOW Babs you had to trawl through my posts to find that...you need a girlfriend mate!! Look up context in a dictionary. I heard lafs saying yday "that jap looks decent" that's abit different to aggressively SD shouting and hollowing "oi jap" constantly and then having to be restrained by a team mate. But I'm sure your right...as usual!!! He referred to someone as a Jap, end of story. What you seem to be suggesting is that it's ok to call you a paki, so long as I'm not angry and shouting it at you. You either think the word is wrong or you don't. You can't sit there and slate him for it when you seeming have no problem using the word yourself. I'm well aware of context see previous posts, you clearly aren't though. Oh and it took about three seconds to find it whilst I'm sat working... but yeah I need a bird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 To be fair, he seems the type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleolly Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Okazaki's nickname at the club is jap, obviously vardy had a few and mistakingly thought this guy was Okazaki cuz let's face it they all look the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Babs quoting something I said from 2007!!!! And? Are you saying you were racist and 2007 and aren't any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city187 Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 If he did the pulling of his eyes thing and said it then yea bad, but jap short for Japanese get over it. Move on. Terry and saurez used far worse words that actually are racist. This is PC nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Tbh the term brit could be seen as racist if used in a certain way. If someone is abusing someone on the basis that are British i.e. "Get out the way you stupid idiot brit" by the letter of the law that's racist. I wouldn't be offended by it tbh but it's the same principle. Single out the race of someone to abuse them, it's racist. That said, the video of vardy is so badly manipulated it is impossible to form a judgement. The sun are about as low as they come. I've lived in Leicester, Wales, USA, Botswana & New Zealand and over the years (including visiting places like Scotland) I've been called: Brit, Pom, Pommy bastard Limey Limey **** English twat, English cnt British scumbag Among many other insults. A friend of mine from Newcastle was beaten up in Carmarthen by a Welshman (wearing an Arsenal top!) for her being "an English slag" when only the former part of that statement was true. My point is, racism goes on pretty much all the time perpetrated by everyone against everyone. It's funny how some is taken more seriously than others while a lot is dismissed and ignored or not taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conLAD logan Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Okazaki's nickname at the club is jap, obviously vardy had a few and mistakingly thought this guy was Okazaki cuz let's face it they all look the same Jesus christ :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalalba Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 He should be sacked by Leicester City, because the English public believe that saying 'jap' is a big crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 He referred to someone as a Jap, end of story. What you seem to be suggesting is that it's ok to call you a paki, so long as I'm not angry and shouting it at you. You either think the word is wrong or you don't. You can't sit there and slate him for it when you seeming have no problem using the word yourself. I'm well aware of context see previous posts, you clearly aren't though. Oh and it took about three seconds to find it whilst I'm sat working... but yeah I need a bird Babs...you need a break mate.. I'm genuinely worried about how much time you spend on here trying to always prove you are right.If you need someone to talk to just let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 And? Are you saying you were racist and 2007 and aren't any more?Yes babs im racist... I call the white people that ive actually met on foxestalk "Oi honkies!".. Your right AGAIN Babs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishOxide Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 Whether people want to clutch at straws with what he actually said, the way he behaved is unacceptable The way he behaved is nobody else's business. He did nothing illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 9 August 2015 Share Posted 9 August 2015 I guess the way I see it is when you're referencing someone to get their attention, it's okay (albeit rude) to use their race, in the same way as their hair colour or weight. oy ginger, oy fatty, oy lanky, oy jap, oy scot, oy frenchy are all acceptable, rude but acceptable. if it was said directly, in conjunction with a slur i.e "you jap twät" then the inclusion of race adds a racist element. for example if I was in Thailand I would consider the first one rude and the second one mildly racist... "oy Brit, walk on" "you British twät" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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