Durnerz Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 Ref only gave it because he missed Rojo's against Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 MOTD Danny Murphy spot on. But am I the only one that thinks he looks like Gollam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 I'd argue that Ibrahimovic challenge is more of a red than Vardy's. And if the laws were up to me I'd definitely have Phil Jones sent off for that ridiculous reaction to the Rojo/Rondon thing. Prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 3 minutes ago, Fez of Mahrez said: I'd argue that Ibrahimovic challenge is more of a red than Vardy's. And if the laws were up to me I'd definitely have Phil Jones sent off for that ridiculous reaction to the Rojo/Rondon thing. Prat. Oh yeah Zlatan should have gone. I'd be a bastard of a ref. I'd let loads of bad tackles go, but the moment some twat starts screaming at me because someone tickled someone's cheek over some stupid handbags argument I'd be whipping the reds out. Pathetic reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitcher Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 4 hours ago, whitlock said: So do we have the chance to appeal? Or can a red be rescinded to a yellow without going through the appeal process? That is a standard yellow all day long. No need to appeal. If it's as clear cut as you are all saying it will be rescinded. Job done. No need to debate further. If it's marginal then accept it as an honest decision by the ref. and agree Vardy was risking it in the modern game and move on. Not seen it yet but based on what you are saying I'll be outraged when I do........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 5 minutes ago, ttfn said: I'm not talking about Sunday morning stuff I'm talking about the reality of knowing what it's like to face a genuinely dangerous tackle - you get them on a Sunday morning and you get them on a Saturday afternoon in the top flight. This just wasn't dangerous. The referee's responsibility should be to prevent harm (or potential harm) to players, not enforce rules arbitrarily because of the number of feet involved. Thats the point though mate. They attempt to play it to the very letter of the law top flight these days. 10 years ago that'd be a yellow, 20 not even that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 9 minutes ago, Royston. said: the fa will know it isnt a red but i fear they will uphold the decision to enforce their law regarding studs up, both feet off the ground. The only problem is his studs weren't up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 rondon probably gave him the look after he(jones) pushed him so jones went crying to the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 I think MOTD have gone easy on Pawson though. He gave yellows to wrong players today and there wasn't even a mention of it. The Vardy decision could be viewed as an in play error. Yellow carding the wrong player is blatant incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom's Pasta Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 See this is the state of football at the moment, on the one hand there's an argument over whether zlatan absolutely clattering a defender deliberately deserves a red card or not, then there's the question over whether vardy who won the ball cleanly barely even making contact with the defender deserves a red. It's just ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 14 minutes ago, Royston. said: the fa will know it isnt a red but i fear they will uphold the decision to enforce their law regarding studs up, both feet off the ground. Which it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 8 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: The only problem is his studs weren't up when he won the ball. for a second he was flying studs up and thats why i think the fa would stand by the decision, to further enforce the law you cannot do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 17 December 2016 Share Posted 17 December 2016 6 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Which it wasn't. of course the actual challenge wasnt even a foul but as i posted a minute ago the fa will enforce the principal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 The whole problem with this as i see it Youve got Matt Elliott on the radio. After the game he says no question its a straight red. Then youve got Alan Curbishley on match choice on sky, he says its a straight red, Vardy is out of control, left the ground etc. But then youve got Danny Murphy on match of the day saying the decision is harsh and that he was unlucky to be sent off. Youve then got a handball. Charle Nicholas on soccer saturday straight away says stonewaller. Has no doubt whatsoever. Radio Leicester say penalty. no doubts. Then Jermaine Jenas comes on match of the day and says he thinks the penalty was a little but dubious and possibly harsh. You come on the forum here, the majority naturally think its not a red card for the tackle, many because we are Leicester fans of course, but many generally dont think its a red for the the tackle. Yet some, even though Leicester fans and biased, still think it is a red card. The point is, there isnt much point in debating the performance of a referee, when no one can even agree on what the laws are. The laws are all open to interpretation, to the extent that any decision can be wrong, and right. You could legitimately argue Vardy should, and should not have been sent off, and use whatever argument you want to back that up. And if you were the referee giving either of these decisions, youd be right on both counts. And im not sure video technology will be the be all and end all cure either. Its still the interpretation of the guy watching the video at the end of the day. Just make the laws clearer. Take the interpretation away. Or at least reduce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theessexfox Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 1 hour ago, Ashley said: Never a red. Also shows what happens to your arm when you go to ground... Simpson's arm doesn't seem that unnatural now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 I was pretty annoyed with Savage on R5, saying it was studs up. Blatant misdirection to say that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 Savage always looks for the talking point. He is (as all Leicester fans know) a poser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpfox Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 vardy was pulled down by the stoke player at the same time that's what cause him to go into the tackle the way he did, think if they appeal he will walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Squirrel Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 Whether a red is justified is the difference between what the referee thought had happened compared to what actually happended - and you can appeal that. The referee saw a lunging tackle with 2 feet in the air and a Stoke player being caught What actually happened was that in attempting to put in a challenge for the ball Vardy was knocked off balance by Johnson at a critical moment making him fall to the left at an angle both his feet looked like they might connect but a) he made contact with the ball b) it was one foot, c) that foot was studs down In this case actuality can really only be determined by proper analysis of the video evidence what the referee thought happened becomes irrelevant Once this is done I'd expect Vardy's red card be rescinded - any other decision would be political not factual Vardy starts against Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyrobot Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 Hope cityfanlee and drygon got to watch motd. Even more experts who disagree with their pawson defence. Never a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfanlee23 Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 3 minutes ago, funkyrobot said: Hope cityfanlee and drygon got to watch motd. Even more experts who disagree with their pawson defence. Never a red. I did see it, does not convince me any further for the reasons I gave earlier. Get off your high horse, as the poster above said, by the letter of the law it can be interpreted. I thought it was uncontrolled and dangerous to lunge into a tackle when you're off balance, any right minded person would see that as dangerous. When you're off balance you are not in complete control, lunging is irresponsible. Red was the wrong decision in hindsight but i can see why the red was given. EVEN YOUR OWN MANAGER SAYS HE CAN SEE WHY IT WAS GIVEN, But hey you'd rather ignore the fact ranieri admitted he could see why in order to back your OPINION, which is essentially what this is. It's done, I'm bored. I said I would not comment but I still have idiots trying to bang on about my opinion on it. Get over it and move on, you won't change my opinion, it was uncontrolled. some say he was falling, some say he was pushed, some say he was pulled back, either way he should not have lunged when off balance, it's a leg breaker if you **** it up. Hindsight is irrelevant when the decision is made. I will not be posting any more as I already said I would not discuss the vardy card any further as apparantely I am the one that cant drop it yet people keep commenting my name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 ^^^^^ Hes gonna cry in a minute,cry in a minuteeeeee...Hes gonna cry in a minute!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 I'm starting to wonder if Lee and Col are the same person...........never seen in the same room together - I think we should be told... DISCLAIMER - I'm being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 6 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said: I will not be posting any more. Some good come of this thread then!!!! Here's FTs Xmas present from cityfanlee23!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 18 December 2016 Share Posted 18 December 2016 @Gerbold has taken the pot for today and it's only early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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