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President Trump & the USA

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29 minutes ago, What the Fuchs? said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.rt.com/news/460735-us-bullying-36-countries/amp/ 

Team ‘Murica: World Police at it again. So much for free trade lol Only if US benefits I suppose

Benefits who? As in our rich masters? They'll just mark up what they steal for profit. Sell it to us and let the citizenery deal with the disasters that follow. Same as it ever was. :frusty:

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

 

150th mass shooting incident in the US in 2019. Well on for the Sangakarra-style triple ton by end of year, I would think! :thumbup:

 

(Apologies if that's a bit dark but quite frankly the situation is so incredibly sad and stupid that such humour is all I've got.)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48478706

 

Of course. Boris and Farage have read extensively from your mentors playbook, so naturally you'd think that, Don.

 

 

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4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

 

150th mass shooting incident in the US in 2019. Well on for the Sangakarra-style triple ton by end of year, I would think! :thumbup:

 

(Apologies if that's a bit dark but quite frankly the situation is so incredibly sad and stupid that such humour is all I've got.)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48478706

 

Of course. Boris and Farage have read extensively from your mentors playbook, so naturally you'd think that, Don.

 

 

 

Linking those two stories, it's probably an apposite time to mention Farage wanting to relax UK laws on gun ownership.

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8 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

 

150th mass shooting incident in the US in 2019. Well on for the Sangakarra-style triple ton by end of year, I would think! :thumbup:

 

(Apologies if that's a bit dark but quite frankly the situation is so incredibly sad and stupid that such humour is all I've got.)

Not at all, I imagine most people's response when they see the news this morning will be an understated sigh of resignation yet this event is comparable in scale to Columbine.  And we know it's not going to be the last time either.  The whole situation's pathetic.

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2 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

Is that a sexual reference?

Right up your alley.

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In this increasingly topsy-turvy political landscape Corbyn has unexpectedly emerged as the patriot.

He has attacked Trump's endorsement of Boris Johnson as an 'entirely unacceptable interference' in British politics. Trump has gone on to urge the British government to go for no deal Brexit and invite Farage to assist with the negotiations. 

Trump is visiting the UK on an official state visit next week. I don't suppose she will do it, but I do think that Theresa May should warn Trump to keep his nose out of our affairs. 

For myself I would probably go much further and tell Trump to his face to back off otherwise the state visit does not happen.

Maybe I am an old-left political dinosaur but interference in the internal affairs of another country just cannot be tolerated.

Again, this won't happen but if Corbyn sets out to root out anti-semitism in his own party and accepts that the Good Friday agreement is the definitive statement on Irish sovereignty and it is up to the Irish on both sides of the border to decide who governs their affairs I might be a lot less lukewarm about supporting a party I have always voted for.

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I'm sort of on the fence on this one tbh.

 

The UK absolutely should be calling out the Trump administration for the science-ignorant, minority-oppressing, thoughtless and self-centered mess that it is, in as many ways as possible and as loudly as possible - but what that also means is that the same administration should also have the right to likewise talk about the way the UK are doing things too. Fair's fair.

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

I'm sort of on the fence on this one tbh.

 

The UK absolutely should be calling out the Trump administration for the science-ignorant, minority-oppressing, thoughtless and self-centered mess that it is, in as many ways as possible and as loudly as possible - but what that also means is that the same administration should also have the right to likewise talk about the way the UK are doing things too. Fair's fair.

Agree. But talk is cheap until we send over the CIA goons to do some adjustments. Ask the Ukraine. The US is capable of anything.

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On 01/06/2019 at 03:16, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

 

150th mass shooting incident in the US in 2019. Well on for the Sangakarra-style triple ton by end of year, I would think! :thumbup:

 

(Apologies if that's a bit dark but quite frankly the situation is so incredibly sad and stupid that such humour is all I've got.)

Whilst the amount of mass shootings in the US is a sad state of affairs, it's important to point out that the US population has grown by 100 million in the past 40 years alone.

So, by sheer logic, the amount or tendency of mass shootings does increase alongside with it.

There's also much more media covering these incidents.

Guns have become more effective.

 

However, I think the way mass shootings are represented in the US media is rather sensationalist and superficial. Also, there are plenty of countries with a worse fatality record, you need to put it in relation to the total population:

https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/268167/global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-south-africa-stands/

El Salvador, Guatemala, Venezuela, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico (just), Afghanistan are worse off.

In general, Middle and South America, plus the Caribbean, deary me... these numbers.

 

For what it's worth, the situation in the US is special due to its long-existing gun culture based on the Second Amendment (in itself influenced by the 1689 British Bill of Rights, by the way), and the amount of people with mental problems not being diagnosed or treated accordingly. Treatments are usually very expensive.

 

The question I am asking myself is: Would banning firearms alleviate the problem? Wouldn't people intent on killing or harming others just opt for other weapons instead? You can argue the effectiveness (or rather lack thereof) of these alternative weapons in comparison to firearms, I just don't see that solving the more deeply-rooted issue, which is part of the US mentality.

It also raises the question of a potential booming black market.

Background checks need to be more extensive and thorough, it shouldn't be that easy to get a gun in the US - although for safety reasons, I can see why guns are needed. 78% of all gun sales are already based on a UBC, let's hope the US bring that number up past the 85 or even 90 percent mark sometimes soon.

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On 02/06/2019 at 03:38, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48486672

 

I see this and I'm actually glad I'm not in the US any more.

 

FWIW I'm pretty sure these folks could find such details anyway given time, but having to hand it all over to make it easier for them to indulge their every-foreigner-is-a-threat hard-on is pure police state BS.

Trump announced these plans back in 2016, I wonder how hard the Democrats fought against it... 

 

My main concern with this policy is the expansion of a bureaucratic apparatus, because this data collection needs serious man power.

 

Btw, there are similarly tough places to visit on a visa already:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/09/countries-difficult-visas-travel/403267/

 

I'll never forget my experience at the Russian embassy in Berlin. 70ies throwback time. lol

 

On a sidenote, aren't you still living in South Korea at the moment, one of the more restrictive and xenophobic countries when it comes to immigration? A bit like the Japanese see "foreigners", although you could say it's a generational and institutional question.

https://journal-neo.org/2018/08/02/has-the-problem-with-illegals-and-refugees-reached-south-korea/

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Classy stuff from the US President.

 

....Kahn reminds me very much of our very dumb and incompetent Mayor of NYC, de Blasio, who has also done a terrible job - only half his height. In any event, I look forward to being a great friend to the United Kingdom, and am looking very much forward to my visit. Landing now!

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    .@SadiqKhan, who by all accounts has done a terrible job as Mayor of London, has been foolishly “nasty” to the visiting President of the United States, by far the most important ally of the United Kingdom. He is a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in London, not me......

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Classy stuff from the US President.

 

....Kahn reminds me very much of our very dumb and incompetent Mayor of NYC, de Blasio, who has also done a terrible job - only half his height. In any event, I look forward to being a great friend to the United Kingdom, and am looking very much forward to my visit. Landing now!

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    .@SadiqKhan, who by all accounts has done a terrible job as Mayor of London, has been foolishly “nasty” to the visiting President of the United States, by far the most important ally of the United Kingdom. He is a stone cold loser who should focus on crime in London, not me......

London doesn't represent the United Kingdom on the whole, it only represents London.

The UK is more than that, much more.

I mean, John Cleese got in a proper shitstorm the other day for suggesting on Twitter that London is no longer "English". Was/is he wrong?

He got immediately branded as "racist". Seriously.

 

Knife crime in London is still a big issue.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/40-knife-offences-each-day-in-london-over-two-years-shock-figures-show-a4110686.html

 

And Khan's record in certain areas isn't particularly positive (first nine months of 2018, somebody please verify these numbers):

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100 murders so far this year (116 in 2017)
A third of London’s victims have been aged 16-24
16% increase in knife crime – 1300 stabbings to end of April, 250 knives and sword seized in just one week, 283 people arrested, many of them teenagers
By August stabbings were reported on a daily basis, 63 deaths so far this year
8% increase in violent attacks
9% increase in rape
25% increase in bike thefts
2.1% of Londoners mutilated by FGM (4.1% in the high immigrant borough of Southwark)
2,000 acid attacks in last three years, mostly in immigrant areas in London

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/09/no-he-khant-the-failures-of-sadiq-khan-mayor-of-london-just-this-weeks-tally/

 

And De Blasio is a failure of the highest order, can ask @Jordan about it.

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2018/10/18/fiasco-the-short-life-and-ignominious-death-of-de-blasios-national-progressive-agenda-656961

He has a -2 net favourability rating among New York State Democrats. lol

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/16/politics/bill-de-blasio-2020-polling/index.html

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