MattCan Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 5 hours ago, MPH said: Who then played very poorly in comparison the following season which was in stark contrast to the previous. Thats hardly going to install confidence in potential buyers is it? That's all anyone is really saying. It's often said a boxer is only as good as his last fight... 1. There are reasons why he didn't have the same stats as the previous season. For those same reasons, he is condemned to move on. 2. You have been saying too many things about him. What's your point? Are you trying to say he is a bad footballer? a bad attitude? what exactly are you trying to convince people of? 3. About the boxer, I don't see the analogy. We are talking football: a team sport. Although even for the boxer, it applies only for those with bad memories. 4. MahrezMagic! got nothing to prove anymore. See my previous message. 5. Scouts and managers look at footballers differently than the FT Mahrez experts.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 So Arsenal and Riyad's agent have given their valuation of their man. Meanwhile, in the real world, they will pay what is required for him. This is a business ran by a very wealthy man. We have completed a £17m deal for a defender and clearly in for a striker worth £25 million. Neither, quite clearly, need the Mahrez deal to go through. Riyad, his agent and Arsenal need to get serious if they want a deal done. It's becoming embarrassing for them.
st albans fox Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: So Arsenal and Riyad's agent have given their valuation of their man. Meanwhile, in the real world, they will pay what is required for him. This is a business ran by a very wealthy man. We have completed a £17m deal for a defender and clearly in for a striker worth £25 million. Neither, quite clearly, need the Mahrez deal to go through. Riyad, his agent and Arsenal need to get serious if they want a deal done. It's becoming embarrassing for them. bear in mind that we may need to sell him to get his salary off the books re premier league wage bill restrictions (depending on who else we are selling/buying). arsenal may be trying to play clever buggers but they could also pee off riyad who may not have been aware what fee they are offering
Mickyblueeyes Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: bear in mind that we may need to sell him to get his salary off the books re premier league wage bill restrictions (depending on who else we are selling/buying). arsenal may be trying to play clever buggers but they could also pee off riyad who may not have been aware what fee they are offering Very good point and would account for the aggressive (and highly unprofessional) negotiating stance Arsenal are taking. What it does show though, is the clubs hand is quite strong. I like Riyad and I think he has a decent head on his shoulders. His advisors, who missed an absolute trick last year, could do a lot better though.
Finn Claw II Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 £26m - good old Arsenal. Mahrez will start the season with us then. It's a world cup year, while he walks into the Algerian team, he'll want to be in good form. Half a Kyle walker for a Mahrez or a Wimmer instead of a Mahrez! Sure
mozartfox Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 Arsenal really are a joke.. You can see why they never bring in the signings that other top Clubs in EPL do.. They have no concept of what is going on in transfer market.. UKP 26m is an insult to Leicester.
MPH Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 1 hour ago, MattCan said: 1. There are reasons why he didn't have the same stats as the previous season. For those same reasons, he is condemned to move on. 2. You have been saying too many things about him. What's your point? Are you trying to say he is a bad footballer? a bad attitude? what exactly are you trying to convince people of? 3. About the boxer, I don't see the analogy. We are talking football: a team sport. Although even for the boxer, it applies only for those with bad memories. 4. MahrezMagic! got nothing to prove anymore. See my previous message. 5. Scouts and managers look at footballers differently than the FT Mahrez experts. 2. That we wont get 50 million for him. 3. Im surprised the analogy was lost on you.. But i dont mind expanding - He had a bad season the season just gone. Now you or I can have our own ideas as to why but the bottom line is he didnt perform as well Didnt score as many, didnt create as many and didnt get as many MotM awards and certainly didnt get as many accolades. Wether you like it or not, potential buyers WILL take that into account when wanting to make an offer for him.. 4. Are you serious that he has nothing to prove anymore? He's not ronaldo or Messi who have produced the good consistently for years now... For what it's worth he's the best player i have ever seen in a Leicester shirt, but he shot himself in the foot last year. 5. Right back at ya
crisp packet Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 26 million. That sun report likes mentioning the £400k we paid for him. If we sell him for 26m somebody wants sacking ...!!
foxoffderby Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/819712/Arsenal-Transfer-News-live-updates-Kylian-Mbappe-Robert-Lewandowski-Alexis-Sanchez-gossip If you read this players Arsenal are being linked to, clubs are asking for from 44m to 120m. But when its a Leicester player its 26m. Its a total sham. Anything less than 40m for RM is a disgrace.
Bazly Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 I saw the £26mn tag and thought they must be doing an exchange with Sanchez.
Nod.E Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 5 hours ago, Thracian said: a) Confidence is his responsibility. It's an attitude of mind. b) He's not our only creative spark. Vardy, Slimani, Albrighton, Gray, Chilwell and more and forever contributing and it's damned insulting to pretend otherwise. It's a team we''ve got not a one-man appreciation society. c) Three men don't mark him every game, nor have they needed to on many occasions. One has been quite sufficient. d) What about fatique? Professional sportsmen get tired. They all have to deal with it. Whether locally in terms of laying the ball off for a few minutes to recover from a temporary shortness of breath or energy or in terms of durability and needing to last longer and be stronger. I'm just glad I'm not your football manager, cos I'd get sick of your excuses on the first morning. I don't care whether he was "trying" or not. The very word is a nebulous concept that not worth trying to prove one way or the other. What matters is consequences and ourcomes and whether Mahrez delivered an effective performance within that concept. Too many times last season he didn't and I don't give a toss about the reasons or excuses - just about seeing he doesn't let himself down so often in future if he remains our responsibility and he chooses to compliment our team in future. If not I wish him well. . Very old school, very dated. Take it you wouldn't haved liked the sports psychologist, either? Preferring instead that all players are told to be men and get on with it? Out of touch doesn't come close.
Nod.E Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 7 hours ago, Kitchandro said: No it's true and you need to get your head out of the sand and face reality instead of bumming him because he's your hero. If my posts annoy you so much it probably says more about your lack of understanding than it does about me so pipe down. I can't accept he lost confidence when his Champions League performances were impressively effective, yet his laziness in league games was there for all to see. He didn't seem to lack confidence in Europe, so your argument is the one that is basic and flawed. Yes I accept confidence did suffer eventually, because he couldn't even do the basics at times in the second half of the season, but that's not a good enough excuse for the whole campaign, especially because he had no reason to lack confidence until he started playing crap due to his own approach to matches. There was a severe selfishness in his game to the extent where instead of passing the ball to colleagues in better positions, as he would have done more often the season before, he would try to beat 3 men, presumably in order to sell himself to other clubs. This is a man who admitted to 'agreeing' to stay at the start of the season, so there is a mass of evidence to suggest his head was elsewhere, and his performances certainly reflected that. Stopped reading at 'bumming him'. How old are you?
mazarron fox Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 Why do people feel they have to get so personal? We all love this team. A lot of us some lows and some very big highs. Let's enjoy the ride and be kind to our fellow foxes! We all have opinions that differ . Teams other than top 5 would love what we have done and we should never forget it
foxfanazer Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 Mahrez should be insulted by that valuation from Arsenal. Doesn't scream guaranteed starter to me
mozartfox Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 1 hour ago, crisp packet said: 26 million. That sun report likes mentioning the £400k we paid for him. If we sell him for 26m somebody wants sacking ...!! Even Rodkun cannot screw this one up.
volpeazzurro Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 11 hours ago, crisp packet said: Barkley has one year left. They want 50 m Marherz is current African footballer of the year . A former PFA player of year. Got selected in the Team of the champions league group stages . A former champion of England. 7th in ballon dor ( world player of the year) Barkley is young and English and at ambitious Everton... I agree entirely but Everton can ask what they want but no one is going to pay 50m. Whatever he costs, for all my past criticism of Marhez, he's got to be worth considerably more. It's silly season with silly asking prices that only the silliest of people would pay. The prices will tumble in most cases just before kick off no doubt.
weller54 Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 1 minute ago, volpeazzurro said: I agree entirely but Everton can ask what they want but no one is going to pay 50m. Whatever he costs, for all my past criticism of Marhez, he's got to be worth considerably more. It's silly season with silly asking prices that only the silliest of people would pay. The prices will tumble in most cases just before kick off no doubt.
Countryfox Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 4 hours ago, HankMarvin said: 26 million latest price mentioned https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3865711/riyad-mahrez-prepared-for-arsenal-move-because-of-arsene-wenger-despite-lack-of-champions-league-football/ 26m .... my arse !! Does anyone seriously believe that ?? .... 26m wouldn't get one of the monks .... utter bolox.
Countryfox Posted 23 June 2017 Posted 23 June 2017 1 hour ago, Nod.E said: Very old school, very dated. Take it you wouldn't haved liked the sports psychologist, either? Preferring instead that all players are told to be men and get on with it? Out of touch doesn't come close. 1 hour ago, Nod.E said: Stopped reading at 'bumming him'. How old are you? You've got it on you tonight Noddy ! ..... love to stay up and watch you battle it out but can't keep my fookin eyes open ... night all.
Nod.E Posted 24 June 2017 Posted 24 June 2017 2 hours ago, Countryfox said: You've got it on you tonight Noddy ! ..... love to stay up and watch you battle it out but can't keep my fookin eyes open ... night all. Guilty! Bad day at the office ?
MattCan Posted 24 June 2017 Posted 24 June 2017 6 hours ago, MPH said: 2. That we wont get 50 million for him. 3. Im surprised the analogy was lost on you.. But i dont mind expanding - He had a bad season the season just gone. Now you or I can have our own ideas as to why but the bottom line is he didnt perform as well Didnt score as many, didnt create as many and didnt get as many MotM awards and certainly didnt get as many accolades. Wether you like it or not, potential buyers WILL take that into account when wanting to make an offer for him.. 4. Are you serious that he has nothing to prove anymore? He's not ronaldo or Messi who have produced the good consistently for years now... For what it's worth he's the best player i have ever seen in a Leicester shirt, but he shot himself in the foot last year. 5. Right back at ya 2. OK, we might get the 50M or might not. It's not the end of the world though. His has been purchased for less than half a million and has been productive beyond the wildest expectations. I think it would be good business to let him go to Barcelona for instance with a 35M to 40M fee. Some people think Gray can replace him. So be it. 3. Scouts and mangers look at a whole spectrum of criteria. They are not as one-dimensional. Some managers and pundits actually think Mahrez had a good season in spite of playing in a system that doesn't suit him. Neither Ranieri nor Shakespeare could find a working solution to the weaknesses and malfunctions of the team/system. So, why fault Mahrez for it? Whatever you say, Mahrez has been the main goal-scoring threat in most of the games of Leicester City in the 2016/2017 season. 4. Nothing to prove anymore. There are extenuating reasons (easy to figure out) he couldn't perform better last year. Btw, you couldn't give me a single name in response to my question asked in our original exchange. 5. Right back at ya
MPH Posted 24 June 2017 Posted 24 June 2017 2 hours ago, MattCan said: 2. OK, we might get the 50M or might not. It's not the end of the world though. His has been purchased for less than half a million and has been productive beyond the wildest expectations. I think it would be good business to let him go to Barcelona for instance with a 35M to 40M fee. Some people think Gray can replace him. So be it. 3. Scouts and mangers look at a whole spectrum of criteria. They are not as one-dimensional. Some managers and pundits actually think Mahrez had a good season in spite of playing in a system that doesn't suit him. Neither Ranieri nor Shakespeare could find a working solution to the weaknesses and malfunctions of the team/system. So, why fault Mahrez for it? Whatever you say, Mahrez has been the main goal-scoring threat in most of the games of Leicester City in the 2016/2017 season. 4. Nothing to prove anymore. There are extenuating reasons (easy to figure out) he couldn't perform better last year. Btw, you couldn't give me a single name in response to my question asked in our original exchange. 5. Right back at ya I don't need to give you a name mainly because it's not at all connected to the point I was trying to make - and that was that we won't get 50 million for him. You've now admitted that . So No point in continuing this conversation. I have better things to do.
Sly Posted 24 June 2017 Posted 24 June 2017 Oh yeah, let's spend £119m on M'Bappe, who is basically Anthony Martial Mk II, then 27m on Mahrez. Has Wenger lost the plot?
bpfox Posted 24 June 2017 Posted 24 June 2017 the truth of the matter is that mahraz is just a weak person, the season did not pan out for the foxes so mahrez packed up his tent and went home. would be really surprised if a really top side would pay over 30 million for a player who dogged most of the season.
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