Gylfi Sigurdsson

[MGLCFC]

Every year prices inflate. Would could have got Keane for £20 mil, but thought it too much - he is now valued at £30 mil. If we want a player bad enough you may just have to ask the asking price. Mahrez, IMO offered far less for us last year, than Sigurdsson did for Swansea. Yet we still value Mahrez at £50 mil. I'm not suggesting we should pay £50 mil unless we are confident he would make a major impact.

[Lovejoy]

10 minutes ago, Gerard said:

£50m would make him the 20th most expensive player in the history of world football.

 

Do people really think this is value for a 27 year old who was deemed surplus at Tottenham, plies his trade at Swansea and none of the top six clubs in England or top clubs in Europe have an interest in?

 

Yes he would improve us but he probably still would't be our best player. There's not many players on this planet that £50m wouldn't buy you. It's ridiculous anyone suggesting anywhere near £50m is worth it for us.

There have been 19 players transferred for more than that !?

[Gerard]

10 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

There have been 19 players transferred for more than that !?

 

The other European teams to break the £50m barrier are:

 

Manchester Utd

Manchester City

Real Madrid

Barcelona

Juventus

Paris St Germain

Monaco

 

And people think we should be spending more than Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool ever have. 

 

Let alone Bayern Munich, AC Milan, etc.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

 

[Thracian]

My first concern is that he's shown no signs of wanting to come here as far as I'm aware.

 

And we can get much of the benefit vanity suggests in other ways and with nothing like the risk for a 27-year-old who's already struggled at the level we're aspiring too.

 

The televised Asia Trophy, for instance, will put us right in the "serious football" spotlight and we're already showing we can attract players appropriate to our growing status and ambition without the need to get reckless.

 

It's not just whether Gylfi's worth £50m even as what would likely be a declining asset by the time his contract started waning. It's what we could buy for £50m bearing in mind we need at least three more recruits and hopefully of the kind that increase in value rather than the other way around.

 

Already our exposure these last couple of years has lifted our profile massively both at home and abroad.

 

I'm not at all against exciting signings and this one would surely guarantee goals and assists which are the lifeblood of a top six challenge.

 

But we've become successful by making shrewd rather than statement signings. 

 

And when we've ventured outside "shrewd" we've not done very well so far.      

 

 

 

  

[cc_star]

1 minute ago, Thracian said:

My first concern is that he's shown no signs of wanting to come here as far as I'm aware.

 

And we can get much of the benefit vanity suggests in other ways and with nothing like the risk for a 27-year-old who's already struggled at the level we're aspiring too.

 

The televised Asia Trophy, for instance, will put us right in the "serious football" spotlight and we're already showing we can attract players appropriate to our growing status and ambition without the need to get reckless.

 

It's not just whether Gylfi's worth £50m even as what would likely be a declining asset by the time his contract started waning. It's what we could buy for £50m bearing in mind we need at least three more recruits and hopefully of the kind that increase in value rather than the other way around.

 

Already our exposure these last couple of years has lifted our profile massively both at home and abroad.

 

I'm not at all against exciting signings and this one would surely guarantee goals and assists which are the lifeblood of a top six challenge.

 

But we've become successful by making shrewd rather than statement signings. 

 

And when we've ventured outside "shrewd" we've not done very well so far.      

 

 

 

  

Sig is a pretty close guarantee to goals & assists in the Premier League & what is that worth, and then taking that further... what is it worth to a PL team who's probably going to lose their key source of assists You're right on his declining value during the 4-5yr contract

 

• We do need to build out the squad & acquire a couple more players, we still only have one RB at the club & could do with another CB, then there's the question of Mahrez leaving or not, as well as offloading last season's expensive flops
• In Harry Maguire, Vicente Iborra & Iheanacho we do seem to be able to attract players we want without being held to ransom on price
• There's obviously far better value around than Sig for £50m but not without its risks, especially looking at last season's signings of Slimani, Mendy & Mussa, who all arrived with a great deal of promise but failed to deliver for one reason or another

[Bunyip]

4 minutes ago, Thracian said:

My first concern is that he's shown no signs of wanting to come here as far as I'm aware.

 

And we can get much of the benefit vanity suggests in other ways and with nothing like the risk for a 27-year-old who's already struggled at the level we're aspiring too.

 

The televised Asia Trophy, for instance, will put us right in the "serious football" spotlight and we're already showing we can attract players appropriate to our growing status and ambition without the need to get reckless.

 

It's not just whether Gylfi's worth £50m even as what would likely be a declining asset by the time his contract started waning. It's what we could buy for £50m bearing in mind we need at least three more recruits and hopefully of the kind that increase in value rather than the other way around.

 

Already our exposure these last couple of years has lifted our profile massively both at home and abroad.

 

I'm not at all against exciting signings and this one would surely guarantee goals and assists which are the lifeblood of a top six challenge.

 

But we've become successful by making shrewd rather than statement signings. 

 

And when we've ventured outside "shrewd" we've not done very well so far.      

 

 

 

  

£30 million for slimani at 29 years old and £16 million for Musa was  " shrewd from the club was it ? How on earth have we become successful wasting money like that ? And how on earth do you know What Sigurdsson thinks ? What signs if any should he be showing ? Turning up at his local wearing a Leicester shirt ?

 

So you think being in the Asia Trophy is serious footballing spotlight , you're having a laugh . Our status if Anything is at present in neutral gear after last season and most people are expecting us to go back to being little old yo yo Leicester thev'e come to expect. The only way we are going to move forward  is by signing players of Sigurdsons standard whatever the cost  no more wasting £45 million on the likes of Slimani and Musa , I'd swop them both like a shot for Sigurdsson. 

[Bamba's Babes]

22 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

The other European teams to break the £50m barrier are:

 

Manchester Utd

Manchester City

Real Madrid

Barcelona

Juventus

Paris St Germain

Monaco

 

And people think we should be spending more than Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool ever have. 

 

Let alone Bayern Munich, AC Milan, etc.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

 

Do you know who we are?

[Babylon]

22 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

The other European teams to break the £50m barrier are:

 

Manchester Utd

Manchester City

Real Madrid

Barcelona

Juventus

Paris St Germain

Monaco

 

And people think we should be spending more than Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool ever have. 

 

Let alone Bayern Munich, AC Milan, etc.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

 

We're massive Gerard.

[Thracian]

17 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

The other European teams to break the £50m barrier are:

 

Manchester Utd

Manchester City

Real Madrid

Barcelona

Juventus

Paris St Germain

Monaco

 

And people think we should be spending more than Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool ever have. 

 

Let alone Bayern Munich, AC Milan, etc.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

 

I'd never say "never" if we get the right chance. We should sow our own corn.

 

But, while I'd be thrilled  to see Siggy here I'm not quite convinced it's the right risk. But then who ever is?

 

"Who Dares Wins" is evocative without question. But while "Who Dares Wins" against the odds sometimes,  "Who Dares Loses" too in real life as we already know.

 

In the end it's down to our owners and management weighing the balance, but surely the attitude of the player as well, and perhaps even the effect of his wages on squad harmony. .

 

 

 

             

[Thracian]

12 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

£30 million for slimani at 29 years old and £16 million for Musa was  " shrewd from the club was it ? How on earth have we become successful wasting money like that ? And how on earth do you know What Sigurdsson thinks ? What signs if any should he be showing ? Turning up at his local wearing a Leicester shirt ?

 

So you think being in the Asia Trophy is serious footballing spotlight , you're having a laugh . Our status if Anything is at present in neutral gear after last season and most people are expecting us to go back to being little old yo yo Leicester thev'e come to expect. The only way we are going to move forward  is by signing players of Sigurdsons standard whatever the cost  no more wasting £45 million on the likes of Slimani and Musa , I'd swop them both like a shot for Sigurdsson. 

You should read what I say more carefully if you want to make credible comment. 

[TJB-fox]

There's more to this than meets the eye. I don't think we were genuinely sincere with that bid, maybe we're trying to raise the asking price for Mahrez or even possibly just trying to up the price Everton may have to pay further down the line. All seems a bit low key and slightly odd, especially with Swansea asking for 40m then rejecting the bid and asking for 50m...

[katieakita]

25 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

The other European teams to break the £50m barrier are:

 

Manchester Utd

Manchester City

Real Madrid

Barcelona

Juventus

Paris St Germain

Monaco

 

And people think we should be spending more than Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool ever have. 

 

Let alone Bayern Munich, AC Milan, etc.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

 

Thought Chelski paid around £50 million for Torres years ago and sure the final figure Arsenal have spent on their new striker will top £50 million also it is not just buying the players it is the salaries as well. Football finances and spending have gone mental and the guy is probably worth £50 million to Swansea. We have an option and if we have bid £40 million for the guy it shows intent from the club. We do not possess the gift of hindsight Swansea go down the end of this season and he doesn't go for anything like £50 million. We really do not know how serious we are for him as we keep our cards close to our chests which I personally believe is a better way to go. Also of course if any final fee is based on success it might be not such a daft idea.

[Gerard]

Just now, Thracian said:

I'd never say "never" if we get the right chance. We should sow our own corn.

 

But, while I'd be thrilled  to see Siggy here I'm not quite convinced it's the right risk. But then who ever is?

 

"Who Dares Wins" is evocative without question. But while "Who Dares Wins" against the odds sometimes,  "Who Dares Loses" too in real life as we already know.

 

In the end it's down to our owners and management weighing the balance, but surely the attitude of the player as well, and perhaps even the effect of his wages on squad harmony. .

 

 

 

             

 

I too would never say never.

 

I'd be happy to see us pay £50m for some South American teenager dubbed the "new Messi" as we're highly likely to recuperate that money somewhere down the line.

 

But buying a 27 year old who has never excelled at a top club or is desired by one? No thanks. On a five year deal he is a declining asset. If we paid him £150k a week (which is reasonable for a £50m player) then that's nearly a £100m outlay when you consider agents and signing on fees, etc for a player that probably solidifies us as a mid table team and still doesn't guarantee Europe. We''d have to be complete mugs to pay anything north of about £30m.

[Bunyip]

10 minutes ago, Thracian said:

You should read what I say more carefully if you want to make credible comment. 

I did and I did.

[cc_star]

18 minutes ago, katieakita said:

Thought Chelski paid around £50 million for Torres years ago and sure the final figure Arsenal have spent on their new striker will top £50 million also it is not just buying the players it is the salaries as well. Football finances and spending have gone mental and the guy is probably worth £50 million to Swansea. We have an option and if we have bid £40 million for the guy it shows intent from the club. We do not possess the gift of hindsight Swansea go down the end of this season and he doesn't go for anything like £50 million. We really do not know how serious we are for him as we keep our cards close to our chests which I personally believe is a better way to go. Also of course if any final fee is based on success it might be not such a daft idea.

Swansea under Clement were very good, he took a side in relegation zone having already sacked 2 managers to safety

Swansea finished 8th in the league from the day he joined 03/1/17 to the end of the season

 

They ain't going down (we finished 12th by comparison over those dates)

 

Sig was a huge part of that success

[katieakita]

10 minutes ago, cc_star said:

Swansea under Clement were very good, he took a side in relegation zone having already sacked 2 managers to safety

Swansea finished 8th in the league from the day he joined 03/1/17 to the end of the season

 

They ain't going down (we finished 12th by comparison over those dates)

 

Sig was a huge part of that success

Read the post we do not possess hindsight, we can all manipulate figures Swansea finished where they deserved to finish and agreed he played a major part in keeping them up hence they value him at such a high amount. Not a gambling man but the evidence suggests Swansea will be facing a relegation battle more than a fight for a Europa league spot as you seem to suggest.

[CyprusFox]

50 minutes ago, Babylon said:

We're massive Gerard.

[Kinowe Soorie]

What were his stats like against the bigger clubs? Anyone find them please?

[cc_star]

It's all irrelevant anyway, we bid weeks ago and haven't been back

He obviously doesn't want to force a move

[Jimbo]

This is becoming more and more likely that it won't happen, but £50 million is not what the player is worth, it's what he's worth to Swansea.  Without him they severely lack any creativity and he would leave a massive hole that'd need filling.  As I said before, money in English football now is ridiculous.  As with us and Mahrez, he's clearly not worth £50, Pogba isn't worth £85 million and Lukaku isn't worth £100 million.  But for us to replace Mahrez we would need to spend that sort of money.

 

Shaktar can sign a player from Brazil for £10 million.  For any Premier league club to sign the same player, we would be quoted at least double that.  Player values in England are now over inflated purely because of the tv money etc and every single club in the world knows that

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Jimbo said:

This is becoming more and more likely that it won't happen, but £50 million is not what the player is worth, it's what he's worth to Swansea.  Without him they severely lack any creativity and he would leave a massive hole that'd need filling.  As I said before, money in English football now is ridiculous.  As with us and Mahrez, he's clearly not worth £50, Pogba isn't worth £85 million and Lukaku isn't worth £100 million.  But for us to replace Mahrez we would need to spend that sort of money.

 

Shaktar can sign a player from Brazil for £10 million.  For any Premier league club to sign the same player, we would be quoted at least double that.  Player values in England are now over inflated purely because of the tv money etc and every single club in the world knows that

So true; so sad.

 

[urban.spaceman]

4 hours ago, Gerard said:

£50m would make him the 20th most expensive player in the history of world football.

 

Do people really think this is value for a 27 year old who was deemed surplus at Tottenham, plies his trade at Swansea and none of the top six clubs in England or top clubs in Europe have an interest in?

 

Yes he would improve us but he probably still would't be our best player. There's not many players on this planet that £50m wouldn't buy you. It's ridiculous anyone suggesting anywhere near £50m is worth it for us.

This. 

[Wymsey]

It appears some get confused between the real valuation of players and what their respective club mark them down as in order to put off other clubs in trying to buy them.

Sigurdsson is seen more as high-quality gold than millions worth of money.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

5 hours ago, Gerard said:

£50m would make him the 20th most expensive player in the history of world football.

 

Do people really think this is value for a 27 year old who was deemed surplus at Tottenham, plies his trade at Swansea and none of the top six clubs in England or top clubs in Europe have an interest in?

 

Yes he would improve us but he probably still would't be our best player. There's not many players on this planet that £50m wouldn't buy you. It's ridiculous anyone suggesting anywhere near £50m is worth it for us.

Excellent post

[ZeGuy]

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