kingcarr21 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 5 minutes ago, Captain... said: If this goes through and then we sign Smalling it really would be an indication that Huth and Morgan are considered over the hill, we can't sign Smalling and not make him first choice we also have to give Maguire game time, even in a back 3 that would only leave space for one of Huth or Morgan. I wonder how Huth and Morgan would feel being squad players at 33? There is still some life left in those legs, but will either be fit enough to manage a full season as first choice in the prem? I don't think we will go for Smalling unless it is clear that Huth or Morgan won't be able to manage a full season or we are serious about a back 3, but then we have Fuchs to consider. We don't normally give more than 4 spaces in the 25 man squad to CBs: Maguire, Huth, Morgan, Benny with Hughes in the development squad Amartey and Fuchs able to cover and play in a back 3. Ive been away on holiday so missed the last few days. Are we actually in for Smalling?
Captain... Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 1 minute ago, Lovejoy said: I guess the reason to add another would be if we're going to three at the back on a regular basis, then you'd want five. If we go 3 at the back then we have Fuchs to add into the mix and Amartey has been used as emergency cover, add in Sam Hughes and any others from the development squad and we have enough cover. Saying that if we have the chance of signing Chris Smalling for £15m then we should be looking at it, but I would expect him to go to Everton of the teams interested.
Captain... Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 1 hour ago, SheppyFox said: SSN matey 2 minutes ago, kingcarr21 said: Ive been away on holiday so missed the last few days. Are we actually in for Smalling? Not officially linked but if he is available then I think most fans can see it being a good signing and someone we should be looking at.
kingcarr21 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 Just now, Captain... said: Not officially linked but if he is available then I think most fans can see it being a good signing and someone we should be looking at. Oh ok. If he is available I would snap him right up. He has developed into a decent defender over the last few years.
hackneyfox Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 6 minutes ago, Captain... said: If we go 3 at the back then we have Fuchs to add into the mix and Amartey has been used as emergency cover, add in Sam Hughes and any others from the development squad and we have enough cover. Saying that if we have the chance of signing Chris Smalling for £15m then we should be looking at it, but I would expect him to go to Everton of the teams interested. If we want to push on then we need better than Fuchs or Amartey in a back 3.
M0901 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 24 minutes ago, maddog said: The deal could still fall through guys. Don't count your chickens yet until Harry is at the training ground holding a King Power shirt and pretending to smile Aaron Lennon style
Callabinho Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 16 minutes ago, Tuna said: Yes agreed, thats £4 change from a £20 note enough for a tesco meal deal and a snickers bar. Hahaha, I've just re read it...I'm going to leave it up for comedy value though!
Captain... Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 9 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: If we want to push on then we need better than Fuchs or Amartey in a back 3. Fuchs was fine in the back 3 last season, Amartey is our utility man (and I believe he will improve), unless we start binning off last seasons team we can't just go out and buy 3 new centre backs. We also need to integrate players into the team and build on our strengths and bring players into the Leicester way, players like Morgan, Huth and Fuchs are big parts of that. Even if we want to go for a back 3 next season we won't have 6 out and out centre backs in the squad, we will need players to cover different positions and different formations, Fuchs can be a left back in 442, or left CB in a 352.
The_77 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 The Hull City Ian Stringer has posted this. Imagine being the Hull City Ian Stringer. "We couldn't get you on Celebrity Apprentice but you start filming for There's Something About Miriam next week."
foxes_rule1978 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 13 minutes ago, AKCJ said: The Hull City Ian Stringer has posted this. Good deal this, much needed
Jon the Hat Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 1 hour ago, Thracian said: Encouraging start for a manager with "no ideas". To be fair, signing a player from a relegated club does not require the work of genius.
hackneyfox Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 15 minutes ago, Captain... said: Fuchs was fine in the back 3 last season, Amartey is our utility man (and I believe he will improve), unless we start binning off last seasons team we can't just go out and buy 3 new centre backs. We also need to integrate players into the team and build on our strengths and bring players into the Leicester way, players like Morgan, Huth and Fuchs are big parts of that. Even if we want to go for a back 3 next season we won't have 6 out and out centre backs in the squad, we will need players to cover different positions and different formations, Fuchs can be a left back in 442, or left CB in a 352. Fuchs is not a CB for a team looking for a top 7 finish. He wasnt fine in a back 3.
Lovejoy Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 18 minutes ago, Captain... said: Fuchs was fine in the back 3 last season, Amartey is our utility man (and I believe he will improve), unless we start binning off last seasons team we can't just go out and buy 3 new centre backs. We also need to integrate players into the team and build on our strengths and bring players into the Leicester way, players like Morgan, Huth and Fuchs are big parts of that. Even if we want to go for a back 3 next season we won't have 6 out and out centre backs in the squad, we will need players to cover different positions and different formations, Fuchs can be a left back in 442, or left CB in a 352. I'm going to have to disagree with that. Fuchs is an integral player for us and an excellent left back, the best we've had for a very long time. But a centre back he is not. They're two different positions and I really don't want to sound like I'm knocking him, but he lacked the positional qualities and had an alarming habit of missing headers in the air to play the position. We should stick to round pegs in round holes.
Lovejoy Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 39 minutes ago, Captain... said: Not officially linked but if he is available then I think most fans can see it being a good signing and someone we should be looking at. Any idea what Smalling is earning? Got a horrible feeling he'll be close to £100k p/w given United's abysmal approach to spending money. Otherwise, I'm sure most will be massively in favour of signing him.
kingcarr21 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 1 minute ago, Lovejoy said: I'm going to have to disagree with that. Fuchs is an integral player for us and an excellent left back, the best we've had for a very long time. But a centre back he is not. They're two different positions and I really don't want to sound like I'm knocking him, but he lacked the positional qualities and had an alarming habit of missing headers in the air to play the position. We should stick to round pegs in round holes. Agreed. Fuchs always tended to go back to the LB position leaving huge gaps in the heart of the defence. Think he needs a bit more coaching for a back 3 role. Not to say he couldn't adapt but from what I saw I think I would sooner have another CB than play Fuchs in the back 3
weller54 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 2 minutes ago, Lovejoy said: Any idea what Smalling is earning? Got a horrible feeling he'll be close to £100k p/w given United's abysmal approach to spending money. Otherwise, I'm sure most will be massively in favour of signing him. Will we need another CB after the signing of Maguire?... We'll have.. Morgan, Huth, Benny, Maguire and Hughes.. Enough cover?
yorkie1999 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 53 minutes ago, foxes21 said: after this signing we need: RB - A young understudy to Simpson or an attack minded alternative. CM - Someone that can challenge both DD/Ndidi. James & King as back up. CAM - Upgrade on Okazaki. What we need to is develop our youngsters into players that challenge for first team positions instead of buying ready made players who aren't really any better than what we've already got, that way the first teamers will feel secure in their positions whilst removing the problems you get with dressing room disharmony and also have an understudy that they have helped develop.
foxes21 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 Just now, yorkie1999 said: What we need to is develop our youngsters into players that challenge for first team positions instead of buying ready made players who aren't really any better than what we've already got, that way the first teamers will feel secure in their positions whilst removing the problems you get with dressing room disharmony and also have an understudy that they have helped develop. Good point, I think Barnes could potentially be the solution at CAM.
Lovejoy Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 2 minutes ago, foxes21 said: Good point, I think Barnes could potentially be the solution at CAM. CAM or Inside Forward. I still hope we can get something out of Lawrence as well.
Finnegan Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 5 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: What we need to is develop our youngsters into players that challenge for first team positions instead of buying ready made players who aren't really any better than what we've already got, that way the first teamers will feel secure in their positions whilst removing the problems you get with dressing room disharmony and also have an understudy that they have helped develop. Pretty much no premier league football team does this tbh. Or top flight team anywhere, with the exception of Barcelona circa 2006. No one club develops enough youth players to fill out their senior squad. You're lucky if you get a couple in a generation and given we've got King, Chilwell and potentially Barnes floating around the first team we're probably doing okay.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Pretty much no premier league football team does this tbh. Or top flight team anywhere, with the exception of Barcelona circa 2006. No one club develops enough youth players to fill out their senior squad. You're lucky if you get a couple in a generation and given we've got King, Chilwell and potentially Barnes floating around the first team we're probably doing okay. Barnes & Chilwell are local which makes is better Imo
Captain... Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Pretty much no premier league football team does this tbh. Or top flight team anywhere, with the exception of Barcelona circa 2006. No one club develops enough youth players to fill out their senior squad. You're lucky if you get a couple in a generation and given we've got King, Chilwell and potentially Barnes floating around the first team we're probably doing okay. Southampton haven't done a bad job of it, shame they can't hold on to them, but then if they did there wouldn't be the room to bring the next lot through. Really you need a mix of up and coming talent, players in their prime and experienced older heads who can keep everyone on track.
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