Shakespeare future decided next week - Percy

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Bye Shakey.  Dont want him to leave but I dont want him as manager.

 

We need a big name to come in and spend big money.

 

Yeah thats what we need.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Bye Shakey.  Dont want him to leave but I dont want him as manager.

 

We need a big name to come in and spend big money.

 

Yeah thats what we need.

Yes because spending a load of dough has worked so well in the past. 

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

Yes because spending a load of dough has worked so well in the past. 

Need to spend more.

[tom27111]

5 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Well i had been making a similar argument that Shakey might not be the way to go before tonight... I had been suggesting trying to find a 'name' that could bring with them a different style and direction, because we might need it (nothing lasts for ever), but I was happy to concede to the majority.

 

So why am I suddenly defending Shakey now? Maybe I like being contrary, but I think it's more because I hate the flip flop nature of some fans, who always need to find at least 3/4 scape goats. 

 

Yes tonight was bad... but Pearson, O'Neill, Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankley - whoever as manager - would of struggled to find something better out of what we had tonight. 

 

Absolutely. Completely agree with you.

 

Shakes has made us safe and made us look forward to watching football again.

 

But I just don't think it's the long term future.

 

The players were awful tonight.

 

I'm pretty torn if I'm honest, but I think a new start would be for the best.

 

It's like the Ranieri situation again, I don't want them to go, but if it benifits the club...

[brucey]

Still think Shakey is the right person for the job. There will be a lot of reflecting in the dressing room tonight. With our injuries, we were simply outclassed, especially after the subs came on as a gamble. We overachieve relative to our squad quality due to our spirit. Against Liverpool we were angry and destroyed them to prove a point. Spurs were angry today, and when a squad of a higher quality combines with our spirit, that's unstoppable.

[hejammy]

7 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Behave... after all those players have given us over the past 24 months we can forgive them that!

 

 

Agreed but that's no excuse for not putting in an effort against a club who have recent history. No need to just bend over, granted we had plenty of players out, but the players that came in should have done half a decent job or put in some decent effort. It's a shame the season has to end on such a big defeat. 

[Guest Col city fan]

Just hope he still gets the job. One match doesn't reduce my trust in him. I think he'll clear out the rubbish and buy much better.

[FireFox]

Rubbish!!
 
Shakey has the respect of the players. We have been unlucky tonight with injuries, he made one poor decision and that was taking off Benny for Gray.... but that may be to try and keep Mahrez happy. 
 
Shakey and the team will learn from tonight, he's the right man for the job

I don't care if he has the respect of the players if it means performances like that. Get someone else in who gets good performances out of the players and they'll respect him.

Spurs also had injuries, let's not forget, and rested Eriksen (imo, their best player).

He made mistakes from the beginning. Played negative when we only had one CB. I'm not asking for us to play like Barca, but we let them have shot after shot, while we were restricted to giving Vardy a few chances all on his own.

I don't know why people think he is the right man for the job. I always thought he was the right man for the rest of the season, but he hasn't shown himself to be a PL-quality manager.

[Dan]

I think if there was one way he was going to not get the job from the position he was in 24 hours ago then tonight was probably it. I hope I'm wrong, I still maintain he's the right choice but tonight was a disgrace.

[ZeGuy]

4 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

I think if there was one way he was going to not get the job from the position he was in 24 hours ago then tonight was probably it. I hope I'm wrong, I still maintain he's the right choice but tonight was a disgrace.

Was he really that bad? Everybody is talking about a massive tactical fvck-up.

[weller54]

Sounds crazy but I think it now depends on the performance against Bournemouth.. Another embarrassment and he won't get it! 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

7 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Agreed but that's no excuse for not putting in an effort against a club who have recent history. No need to just bend over, granted we had plenty of players out, but the players that came in should have done half a decent job or put in some decent effort. It's a shame the season has to end on such a big defeat. 

 

Have you never played a game when you've been completely out classed? I remember playing a few like that and despite feeling like you've put a lot in, you still get nowhere near. 

 

Our better players will learn a lot from tonight... and the ones not good enough will get move on after that.

[dylanlegend]

5 minutes ago, FireFox said:

I don't care if he has the respect of the players if it means performances like that. Get someone else in who gets good performances out of the players and they'll respect him.

Spurs also had injuries, let's not forget, and rested Eriksen (imo, their best player).

He made mistakes from the beginning. Played negative when we only had one CB. I'm not asking for us to play like Barca, but we let them have shot after shot, while we were restricted to giving Vardy a few chances all on his own.

I don't know why people think he is the right man for the job. I always thought he was the right man for the rest of the season, but he hasn't shown himself to be a PL-quality manager.

I also don't understand what we all expected from tonight. Spurs will end this season on more points that we won the league with, remember Spurs were good last season... this season they have been better!!

 

How has he not shown he is a good PL manager? Since he has been boss our form suggest we should be about 5th, do you really think we can consistently get higher than this each season.

 

And also Eriksen it not at the same level as Alli or Kane, maybe even Son

 

[GaelicFox]

48 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

It's not really Shakeys faults we had 1 recognised centre back in the team tonight

Hummmm .....

 

 

[Kierzz]

Tha KS for everything Shakespeare has done. But I think we need an Italian manager to suit our system of play. Narrow and tight defence but very effective on the counter attack. 

 

Mancini would be great but I don't think he will join us

 

[M0901]

Why are people slaying Shakey on one game? If that was the case no manager would last in any team.

 

He's come in and done a very good job. The players love him and he's got very good results. Our form is top 4 worthy, give him a summer to rebuild and we'll go again next season.

[Matt]

So this afternoon I was going to reply to this thread with simply - "What needs deciding?!"

 

For some reason I didn't.

 

Now I don't think this should happen but I worry it will and i'm not slagging the owners off but we all know they seem to desire a big name, tonight's enough to give them an excuse not to give it for Shakespeare imo, they've been waiting for the right time, the right excuse, I hope i'm wrong but feel it enough of a reason.

 

Otherwise as I was going to post this afternoon, What needs/needed deciding? What have they been waiting for to give it him?

[volpeazzurro]

There's a world of difference from being a great coach to being a good manager. It was telling in his interview after the game that he hinted that certain players didn't play in the positions or play the game he told them to and that it's a team game. 

Does this ring any bells?  Did we not seem to have this before?

We have no exceptional players that know better than the current manager and what he says should go. I think the new manager has to be a respected individual who won't take being questioned or disobeyed. The only problem is I can't see a suitable candidate out there who'd want to come.

[tom27111]

2 minutes ago, M0901 said:

Why are people slaying Shakey on one game? If that was the case no manager would last in any team.

 

He's come in and done a very good job. The players love him and he's got very good results. Our form is top 4 worthy, give him a summer to rebuild and we'll go again next season.

 

If the players loved him, they'd have put some effort in.

 

And have you seen our record against the top teams?

 

Sorry, not for me.

[dylanlegend]

5 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

Hummmm .....

 

 

Fcukin hell who is he? Harry Houdini, everyone is injured 

[HankMarvin]

26 minutes ago, matty98 said:

I would rather have a manager who's willing to take chances to try and get something out of a game than a manager who is about damage limitation. Shakey isn't afraid to take those chances. Says alot about his character.

he might be now after that tonking

[Bayfox]

Think that's done him out of a job. Been ok against the bang average clubs.

 

But been found wanting against a few off the bigger clubs. Sets out to negatively for me then reacts when the game has gone.

 

I worry for us next season now if he gets the job. Too many things recently remind me of when nige couldn't buy a win.

[Tuna]

4 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

Fcukin hell who is he? Harry Houdini, everyone is injured 

Only other options were 37 year old Wasilewski and Elliott Moore and I don't even know how old he is!

[HankMarvin]

should go for Marco Silva whilst he is available 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

18 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

 

Absolutely. Completely agree with you.

 

Shakes has made us safe and made us look forward to watching football again.

 

But I just don't think it's the long term future.

 

The players were awful tonight.

 

I'm pretty torn if I'm honest, but I think a new start would be for the best.

 

It's like the Ranieri situation again, I don't want them to go, but if it benifits the club...

 

But people can't really judge things on tonight... if anyone didn't feel a bit of trepidation about our chances looking at the team announcements they were deluding themselves. 

 

I will agree, the decision to take of Benny and leave one centre midfielder did seem a bit odd to me and was a clear receipe to get mullered (reminds me of the Chelsea home game when Claudio did something similar - maybe that was Shakes idea that time ?)

 

Personally, if I were the owners I'd be getting a feel on Mahrez, Vardy and Kasper's positions his summer... if they're minded to look at leaving, I'd look to get in a new manager because;

 

1.) You may get them to change their mind if the appointment is intreiguing 

2.) A new manager can bring in a fresh philosophy, crucial if you lose key parts of your existing one

3.) If you're going to need to recruit big players to replace those departing... you want someone with a good contacts book.

 

However, these reason were obvious before tonight.

 

Now I do like the idea of Touschel, don't think we'd get him though.