Mancini

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

The link does absolutely nothing for me, can't see any good coming from it. He reeks of West Ham.

[Sionnach gorm]

Anyone here who wouldn't take Mancini should have their head examined.  A real manager, compared to the championship crap out there.

[EnglishOxide]

I'm open to a new manager, if the spine of this team are leaving anyway then ripping things up and making a fresh start seems a risky, but a potentially good idea because too much has changed from what Pearson built and things have slowly disintegrated anyway.

 

People can question Mancini all they like but his record of winning trophies speaks for itself. We will be lucky to get a better manager.

 

Having said that I don't mind Shakey getting a crack at it instead.

[ozleicester]

9 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

The initial reaction on here is very similar to when Claudio's name was mentioned.

 

In fact, change the thread title, you probably wouldn't notice the difference...

 

9 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Given how he destroyed the morale at Man City within five months of winning a title, no thank you. 

[ozleicester]

Imo the big thing is...our team will change enormously next season.

I think we will have....

2/3 new defenders (Wes and Fuchs and Huth will see less game time)

At least 2 new midfielders  (Mahrez will go, less game time Albrighton and King. return of James)

2 new stikers to suit the new style our changed squad will play (Leo and musa will go)

So. We will need a manager to suit the new squad

[volpeazzurro]

8 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Why did the owners ask shakey, Walsh, Stowell, the Sports Science team, Matt Reeves and the scouting staff all to stay then when Ranieri arrived? 

 

There was a framework. A plan. As soon as Ranieri started to disregard backeoom staff advice it went to pot. 

 

Ranieri's greatest feat was recognising what we had was good and with some tweaks could be made better. Why he decided to abandon it at such a quick pace was baffling.

I think he made some big tweaks ie changing to an old fashioned back 4 to shore up a leaky defence. Moving Vardy up as the main striker rather than on the left or behind Ulloa. Albrighton as a workhorse on the left but he also got very lucky with Kante coming who, teamed up with Drinkwater, a player who didn't get many games when Cambiasso was here as James was his main partner. Drinkwater and Vardy who subsequently played for England lest we forget, how proud were we! That and being a master with the media was Ranieri's individual stamp and managerial nous for me, abley  assisted by an inspired management team in which Shakespeare showed his brilliance. Whatever, it was fantastic and they all deserve huge respect for what they achieved collectively and individually.

 

Quite what went wrong then nobody really knows for sure, just plenty of theories. If Ranieri did try and change things I think he had to at least try. The loss of Kante and injuries meant we were left with a substandard midfield that neither protected the previous rock solid but limited defence or provided opportunities to our front men. The summer recruitment failed.

 

I am still thankful and in awe of what we achieved but we move on, BUT, the whole of that management team still get my utter respect and I cringe sometimes at the almost hatred for Ranieri because for me he was the catalyst and inspiring influence, it would not have been achieved without him.

 

As for now, there looks like there will be more outgoings. Many of the originals will have gone that allowed us that special and inspired playing style. Can we recruit again that special blend of players to replicate it? Does the style need to adapt, as if it was that easy to get that mix (on the cheap), lots of teams would be doing it. One thing I am certain of is that there can be only one leader!  If players think they know best, there lies the road to ruin as like on this forum, where many of us have different but valid opinions, so will players. There can be only one conductor. The other night after the game at Spurs,  Shakespeare alluded to the fact that some of the players didn't do as they were asked and had to realise that they are a team. Does that not ring any loud bells or is it just me? Did this not perhaps occur at least a little during our problems as opposed to singing from the same hymn sheet last year?

 

It needs someone to take a grip.  Is  Shakespeare the man to do it or is he too close and nice. It's one thing to make a supposed big decision like not giving Was 5 minutes yesterday and subliminally giving the message that he's prepared to put sentiment aside for the team but, what about the season lasting Marhez situation, is he seemingly capable of sorting something big like that out? When Ndidi and Albrighton ranted at their teammates yesterday  (Ndidi at Marhez) and Albrighton generally, Shakespeare stood there stroking his chin. A bit like against Spurs when he looked a bit lost. Time for a new conductor for me and if there needs to be a bit of blood letting in playing staff so be it. I forsee a turbulent summer but there again, this is Leicester after all!

[CosbehFox]

5 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

That is why Schmidt would be my choice. I think he fits in well with our ethos and could potentially take it further.

Totally agree and said it a few days back. Experience of working with a team in the top flight and doing very well too. 

[Steven]

11 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

If you type in Mancini bust up on google, the amount of players he's reportedly fell out with is quite some going.

Mario Balotelli, Tevez and Emmanuel Adebayor suggests to me that he cannot stand prima donna wankers.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

I think he made some big tweaks ie changing to an old fashioned back 4 to shore up a leaky defence. Moving Vardy up as the main striker rather than on the left or behind Ulloa. Albrighton as a workhorse on the left but he also got very lucky with Kante coming who, teamed up with Drinkwater, a player who didn't get many games when Cambiasso was here as James was his main partner. Drinkwater and Vardy who subsequently played for England lest we forget, how proud were we! That and being a master with the media was Ranieri's individual stamp and managerial nous for me, abley  assisted by an inspired management team in which Shakespeare showed his brilliance. Whatever, it was fantastic and they all deserve huge respect for what they achieved collectively and individually.

 

Quite what went wrong then nobody really knows for sure, just plenty of theories. If Ranieri did try and change things I think he had to at least try. The loss of Kante and injuries meant we were left with a substandard midfield that neither protected the previous rock solid but limited defence or provided opportunities to our front men. The summer recruitment failed.

 

I am still thankful and in awe of what we achieved but we move on, BUT, the whole of that management team still get my utter respect and I cringe sometimes at the almost hatred for Ranieri because for me he was the catalyst and inspiring influence, it would not have been achieved without him.

 

As for now, there looks like there will be more outgoings. Many of the originals will have gone that allowed us that special and inspired playing style. Can we recruit again that special blend of players to replicate it? Does the style need to adapt, as if it was that easy to get that mix (on the cheap), lots of teams would be doing it. One thing I am certain of is that there can be only one leader!  If players think they know best, there lies the road to ruin as like on this forum, where many of us have different but valid opinions, so will players. There can be only one conductor. The other night after the game at Spurs,  Shakespeare alluded to the fact that some of the players didn't do as they were asked and had to realise that they are a team. Does that not ring any loud bells or is it just me? Did this not perhaps occur at least a little during our problems as opposed to singing from the same hymn sheet last year?

 

It needs someone to take a grip.  Is  Shakespeare the man to do it or is he too close and nice. It's one thing to make a supposed big decision like not giving Was 5 minutes yesterday and subliminally giving the message that he's prepared to put sentiment aside for the team but, what about the season lasting Marhez situation, is he seemingly capable of sorting something big like that out? When Ndidi and Albrighton ranted at their teammates yesterday  (Ndidi at Marhez) and Albrighton generally, Shakespeare stood there stroking his chin. A bit like against Spurs when he looked a bit lost. Time for a new conductor for me and if there needs to be a bit of blood letting in playing staff so be it. I forsee a turbulent summer but there again, this is Leicester after all!

At the moment Volpe you and me are singing from the same hymn sheet.

[volpeazzurro]

3 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

At the moment Volpe you and me are singing from the same hymn sheet.

Nice to know I'm not on my own, thought I was going to get sniped at!  Whilst the Owners probably made the right decision,  I don't see the merit in having to find a villain or to diminish people's contributions to the biggest achievement our club has ever had. Were there many at the start of this season that would have said let's get rid of Ranieri?

A bit like the press, some people like to big individuals up and then can't wait to give them a good kicking. I for one will be forever grateful to him and the entire management team.

 

As more original players leave it's possibly time for a new start. The bright side is, that unlike many teams, we're lucky to have fantastic owners. The future is still bright for me albeit we face potential huge changes.

[volpeazzurro]

26 minutes ago, Steven said:

Mario Balotelli, Tevez and Emmanuel Adebayor suggests to me that he cannot stand prima donna wankers.

In fairness it would be very hard to not have a bust up with those three! The team comes first and whilst it's healthy that players can have an environment where they can suggest ideas and air opinions, there can only be one boss!

[EGBFitness]

When he was linked after CR's sacking I was open for him to come but with shakeys success and how he distanced himself (reportedly) from the job I'm not too bothered anymore. 

 

Spend the summer keeping the squad together with some key signings and maybe a marquee signing to get the whole club buzzing and give shakey the chance going into next season. 

[AmarteyAndChill]

4 minutes ago, EGBFitness said:

When he was linked after CR's sacking I was open for him to come but with shakeys success and how he distanced himself (reportedly) from the job I'm not too bothered anymore. 

 

Spend the summer keeping the squad together with some key signings and maybe a marquee signing to get the whole club buzzing and give shakey the chance going into next season. 

We won't make a marquee signing, not with Craig anyway. 

[EGBFitness]

31 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

We won't make a marquee signing, not with Craig anyway. 

Granted Shakey may not have the appeal to a big name signing like Mancini but clubs ambition and money can have a big factor

[kingcarr21]

When Ranieri was sacked I had Mancini as my number 1 target. I could see Mancini being a success.

 

Now after Shakeys stint i'm not sure what I want. I can see both sides of the coin (discussed by Babylon and Gaelic)

 

The owners in recent years haven't really put a foot wrong so I will back whatever decision they make (unless its Roy Hodgson, then they can get in the bin )

[MC Prussian]

12 hours ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

Like when all the media was spouting that the players here went to the owners to get ranieri out? 

 

It Is amazing how people pick the facts they want to hear from the media to put their own agenda across

 

How can we as a club turn down someone like Mancini are you all mad

Well, not so long ago, he wasn't interested in joining Leicester at all...

 

Besides, the management can turn down managers if they don't see him fitting in. It happens regularly, nothing to do with Mancini per se.

It'd be a mad world where clubs were held ransom by managers.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

12 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

this magical framework build ? And who built it ? Walsh ? Pearson ? 

 

And when was the magical framework built when we were bottom of league in February 2015 

 

or top of the league May 2016

 

framework ....... 

 

Too funny 

 

 

 

Manici is a proven winner .... I'd love shaky to stay on , but it's not happening , it never was 

 

Southampton  .... Our owners have much bigger ambition ...or so they spout 

 

we will soon find out how much 

Top ten finishes every year for the past god knows how many years. Now an established top 10 team.

 

Southampton are the framework we should be aspiring to for sure.

 

Don't let the title win go to your head because you'll be disappointed every season. We are Leicester City, if you expect to be finishing top 6 every season go support somebody else.

[Gerard]

9 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

That is why Schmidt would be my choice. I think he fits in well with our ethos and could potentially take it further.

 

Schmidt would be my choice as well with the limited knowledge I have of him.

 

He took a similar size club to us in Leverkusen to regular Champions League football in Germany. I think he can come here and reinvigorate us again.

 

I'm hoping it's not Shakey, our performance against Tottenham was a disgrace and I've still no idea our formation at the end of that match. I'd love Shakey to stay on, the club should tell them that we really want him here as our head coach and give him a big bonus for keeping us up and getting the the QF but we want to go with a more experienced man with fresh ideas. I think the players need to hear a new voice next season to stop them getting complacent.

[foxy boxing]

Mancini is a confrontational manager and with the players turning on Claudio the same thing could happen with Mancini.

he has Experience of the Premier league and Europe and of working with big egos but could easily rub the players up the wrong way!

 

[Happy Fox]

Just now, foxy boxing said:

Mancini is a confrontational manager and with the players turning on Claudio the same thing could happen with Mancini.

he has Experience of the Premier league and Europe and of working with big egos but could easily rub the players up the wrong way!

 

 

Would that be a bad thing? players have become far too comfortable this season imo.

[kyleolly]

4 minutes ago, foxy boxing said:

Mancini is a confrontational manager and with the players turning on Claudio the same thing could happen with Mancini.

he has Experience of the Premier league and Europe and of working with big egos but could easily rub the players up the wrong way!

 

Oh no we can't have our precious players being rubbed up the wrong way!

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I think people need to adjust their expectations in regards to our new manager. 

 

In the words of NFP, I think delusions of grandeur are creeping in to our fanbase... 

[Babylon]

24 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Would that be a bad thing? players have become far too comfortable this season imo.

Well it didn't work very well this season did it.

[GaelicFox]

8 hours ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Top ten finishes every year for the past god knows how many years. Now an established top 10 team.

 

Southampton are the framework we should be aspiring to for sure.

 

Don't let the title win go to your head because you'll be disappointed every season. We are Leicester City, if you expect to be finishing top 6 every season go support somebody else.

Champions league we want that's what the owners said .. much bigger than a top ten place side that's the ambition 

 

Champions of England we were .... 

 

now we need to kick on and be bigger than the also rans 

 

time for the owners to back the talk now 

 

 

[Sionnach gorm]

I'm ok with him he's got a great winning percentage and he wore the walkers crisps kit!