LcFc_Smiv Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 14 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: You been on holiday? Okazaki gets taken off at half time and after 60 minutes all the while, yet he's probably our most important player in a 4-4-2 right now. Okazakis role is to press and close down opposition players, come 60 minutes he's ran himself into the ground. Slightly different to the role Barnes plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 28 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: You been on holiday? Okazaki gets taken off at half time and after 60 minutes all the while, yet he's probably our most important player in a 4-4-2 right now. Nursing broken ribs. Okazaki is nearly 32, he's also quite often shit or ineffective, hence being taken off at half time a lot. You don't tend to take good players off at half time without them being a bit poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Nursing broken ribs. Okazaki is nearly 32, he's also quite often shit or ineffective, hence being taken off at half time a lot. You don't tend to take good players off at half time without them being a bit poo. Only got 1 goal less than Vardy despite playing much less.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Nursing broken ribs. Okazaki is nearly 32, he's also quite often shit or ineffective, hence being taken off at half time a lot. You don't tend to take good players off at half time without them being a bit poo. Nasty! How you done that? Watching us right now won't help that Hahahaa. I know, I was just saying that certain players get subbed religiously depending on the type of player/role they play. Barnsley are struggling and it seems by reading their forums that the manager is very trigger happy at changing things and Barnes being the new man is often first to be taken off/bought on. It's understandable, he's on loan there and there's less loyalty to him and plus it's a step up for him and he's obviously still finding his feet. Hes better off there than with us right now anyway, if Gray can't get a game then how on earth will he over the likely lads? If Barnes averages a goal and an assist every 4-5 games in a struggling Championship team he'll have done very well though, but there seems to be a recurring theme that he drifts in and out of games which as a young lightweight player out on the wing is again no surprise! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 Just now, MPH said: Only got 1 goal less than Vardy despite playing much less.... Not really got anything to do with the point, he's doing well this year. But he gets taken off after 60 minutes because he's fooked. Barnes is what, 20? He isn't going to be shattered, he'll be taken off because of lack of impact. And, if a player is getting taken off at half time it means they are ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Nasty! How you done that? Watching us right now won't help that Hahahaa. I know, I was just saying that certain players get subbed religiously depending on the type of player/role they play. Barnsley are struggling and it seems by reading their forums that the manager is very trigger happy at changing things and Barnes being the new man is often first to be taken off/bought on. It's understandable, he's on loan there and there's less loyalty to him and plus it's a step up for him and he's obviously still finding his feet. Hes better off there than with us right now anyway, if Gray can't get a game then how on earth will he over the likely lads? If Barnes averages a goal and an assist every 4-5 games in a struggling Championship team he'll have done very well though, but there seems to be a recurring theme that he drifts in and out of games which as a young lightweight player out on the wing is again no surprise! Took a swan dive after too much booze 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 2 minutes ago, Babylon said: Not really got anything to do with the point, he's doing well this year. But he gets taken off after 60 minutes because he's fooked. Barnes is what, 20? He isn't going to be shattered, he'll be taken off because of lack of impact. And, if a player is getting taken off at half time it means they are ineffective. Errr yes it has? He's not crap like you are making him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 6 minutes ago, MPH said: Errr yes it has? He's not crap like you are making him out to be. Who said he was crap? This is about Barnes, I didn't bring up Okazaki. I'm countering the point the Okazaki gets brought off at half time, and he's great. So Barnes could be the same. Oka' is doing very well, but anyone saying his performances aren't up and down like a yo-yo and he's not capable of being utterly rubbish and getting dragged off is a liar. You think someone who gets subbed at half time will be having a good game? No, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 28 minutes ago, Babylon said: Who said he was crap? This is about Barnes, I didn't bring up Okazaki. I'm countering the point the Okazaki gets brought off at half time, and he's great. So Barnes could be the same. Oka' is doing very well, but anyone saying his performances aren't up and down like a yo-yo and he's not capable of being utterly rubbish and getting dragged off is a liar. You think someone who gets subbed at half time will be having a good game? No, you don't. Nothing to do with opposition or ineffective tactics against them for a half time sub? Got always be an ineffective player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 4 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: Harvey Barnes is fvcking shit. 3 hours ago, UPinCarolina said: Man, you love a good troll. There's good trolls and then there's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey54 Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 23 minutes ago, KingsX said: There's good trolls and then there's What's Ian Dowie got to do with this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 36 minutes ago, mikey54 said: What's Ian Dowie got to do with this thread? What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 5 hours ago, sphericalfox said: Nothing to do with opposition or ineffective tactics against them for a half time sub? Got always be an ineffective player? I'm sure you're right, teams often bring off people playing well to change tactics that aren't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 29 minutes ago, Babylon said: I'm sure you're right, teams often bring off people playing well to change tactics that aren't working. Well given I've seen managers realise the tactics they set out in the first half be ineffective due to the oppositions setup, they change formation in the second half and someone has to make way. Given we like to forego to the hoof, I've seen him be taken off just for that, or as I recall to add another midfielder due to being overrun. It wasn't that Shinji was dreadful, but he was going to come off at 60mins, so why not earlier and try to change the game or keep ourselves in it as the original plan was evidently shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 He's forced his way into a championship side and is one of their top scorers. It's understandable a loanee will get subbed. And I've only seen about 30 minutes of a match where little action was going down his wing. I'd like to see him more involved. I no longer think he's our creative midfield saviour but he is very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 11 hours ago, Ric Flair said: You been on holiday? Okazaki gets taken off at half time and after 60 minutes all the while, yet he's probably our most important player in a 4-4-2 right now. Agreed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 27 September 2017 Share Posted 27 September 2017 11 hours ago, Babylon said: Nursing broken ribs. Okazaki is nearly 32, he's also quite often shit or ineffective, hence being taken off at half time a lot. You don't tend to take good players off at half time without them being a bit poo. You have to then ask, if he is so poo, why does he start every game? Surely if he was that bad ! He wouldn't start the next game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 28 September 2017 Share Posted 28 September 2017 9 hours ago, Babylon said: Took a swan dive after too much booze The more I find out about you the more I like you. ? Why the handle Babylon while I'm at it . Oh and shinji and Barnes doing OK in under performing teams . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgefox Posted 28 September 2017 Share Posted 28 September 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, waylander said: The more I find out about you the more I like you. ? Why the handle Babylon while I'm at it . Oh and shinji and Barnes doing OK in under performing teams . I think his name could be David Gray. or it was meant to be Baby Lion because he likes Cubs ! Joke Babs before I'm up before the beak! Edited 28 September 2017 by cambridgefox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 28 September 2017 Share Posted 28 September 2017 2 hours ago, cambridgefox said: I think his name could be David Gray. or it was meant to be Baby Lion because he likes Cubs ! Joke Babs before I'm up before the beak! I was wondering if it was because he loves demari Gray . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted 30 September 2017 Share Posted 30 September 2017 Two assists today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 30 September 2017 Share Posted 30 September 2017 (edited) But he got subbed off at halftime on Tuesday so he shit Edited 30 September 2017 by Wookie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quorn_fox Posted 30 September 2017 Share Posted 30 September 2017 Very good wing play for both, driving into a dangerous area and putting it on a plate for the goalscorers. Promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 30 September 2017 Share Posted 30 September 2017 Matty James was outstanding there last season yet most of you now deeming him not good enough for our team so whilst this kid has promise, possibly not quite the saviour yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oakwell Red Posted 30 September 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 30 September 2017 Evening chaps - Barnsley fan here just checking in as I'm always interested in parent clubs views of their loanees. From my point of view Barnes is an excellent prospect, I'm delighted with him and I reckon we'll see double figures in goals and assists from him season (he set up two today with crosses that put them on a plate). Don't read too much into him being subbed off occasionally. Because of a cock up with Swansea for a striker loan we've been left to start the season with only three strikers only one of whom (Bradshaw) is 'recognised'. Other than him we've got a Chelsea loanee and a French lad who's never played in England before. We're playing variants of 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 at the moment with Barnes playing and advanced role and his substitutions usually come when we're changing formation and bringing a second striker on. If I had a criticism of him it would be that the full back behind him doesn't get the same protection as the other side but the lad is young and playing regularly at his highest standard to date and I'm confident it'll come in time. I think you'll have a really effective player on your hands there in a couple of years. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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