Ric Flair Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 5 minutes ago, dmayne7 said: He's not ready for the championship though the only way he will be is by going out on loan there. Not sure why everyone is talking about Thomas playing here next year as that seems highly unlikely. From watching him and speaking to cov fans, he doesn't look quite quickly enough but hopefully the better standard of training and facilities will help. Barnes is looking great I think a lower Championship team he is already capable of doing a job for, he's got a lot of very good attributes. He doesn't oook quick enough? Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Just now, Ric Flair said: I think a lower Championship team he is already capable of doing a job for, he's got a lot of very good attributes. He doesn't oook quick enough? Really?? Difficult to tell just off highlights, but it's been my worry when I've seen him, at this level if you're playing in an attacking position you need a bit of pace as the average defender in the prem is rapid compared to the championship. He's not got a load of tricks to buy himself space and time either, so I fear he'd just be too easy to control and mark, really depends on where he's going to play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 32 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I think a lower Championship team he is already capable of doing a job for, he's got a lot of very good attributes. He doesn't oook quick enough? Really?? Yep. When I've seen him he's looked a similar pace to a lot of League 1 defenders. And being so small, he doesn't have the physicality to compensate for that. Got a sound technique and very good positioning/movement but that won't save him in the PL. Would love to see him do well as he seems like a top kid and like I said, maybe that better standard of training could give him that extra yard of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davieG Posted 31 October 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 31 October 2017 You can compensate for a lack of pace in many situations by your quickness of thought, overall awareness and reading of the game. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Difficult to tell just off highlights, but it's been my worry when I've seen him, at this level if you're playing in an attacking position you need a bit of pace as the average defender in the prem is rapid compared to the championship. He's not got a load of tricks to buy himself space and time either, so I fear he'd just be too easy to control and mark, really depends on where he's going to play though. Absolutely spot on. I've seen him half a dozen times live this year. To me he looks like a bulkier, slightly trickier version of Ward Prowse. Hard to know where his best position is too. Very good technically and decent strength on the ball but will never be properly quick or a direct winger. Could well make it at high Champ level if he keeps developing but would be fairly surprised if he played in the Prem consistently. PS this isn't being critical. He's been very good and one of the 23s best players this year. Back on topic i'm sure Harvey Barnes will play at Premier League level week in week out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 50 minutes ago, hornyhollthefox123 said: Back on topic i'm sure Harvey Barnes will play at Premier League level week in week out I have similar concerns about Barnes to be honest, he's been playing on the wing again. I think he'd have to play in another position to play prem football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 56 minutes ago, Babylon said: I have similar concerns about Barnes to be honest, he's been playing on the wing again. I think he'd have to play in another position to play prem football. Both played the majority of their youth careers as attacking midfielders or strikers but Barnes has really impressed in professional football playing the Albrighton role wide left. Could he achieve what Albrighton has done without explosive pace? Well he's an exceptional finisher for a start and so far has advanced through the levels with ease. If you consider his style of play along with Mahrez and Gray behind Vardy then I could see him being comfortable in that system, especially with an attacking left back to overlap. We potentially have the perfect manager for him to get the necessary opportunities next season to move to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 14 hours ago, FoyleFox said: He's playing every week, gaining valuable experience another level up from last year, which this season is probably better for his development than the odd cup game and maybe a cameo from the bench. Let's not rush the lad and hopefully next year he'll be ready for the 1st team. Agreed. Keep him there for this year. I think we can trust Barnsley. I'd happily loan them youngsters again. From next year maybe he gets a proper crack in our team. I think Puel may have a genuine intent to use players like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Knockaert isn't particularly quick either. If a player's passing and technique and intelligence is good then he can get away with average pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 18 hours ago, Koke said: I like how he offered an option to his team mate, received the ball and turned his marker in tight space and put it top bins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 38 minutes ago, Koke said: Knockaert isn't particularly quick either. If a player's passing and technique and intelligence is good then he can get away with average pace. True but has Knocky proven himself as a PL level player? He certainly struggled for us in the Great Escape season and from the bits that I've seen of Brighton this season he doesn't appear anywhere near as effective as he was in the Championship. That's not to say you can't be really effective without real pace in the PL (David Silva is a great example of that) but it does show how being an absolute world beater in the Championship, as Knocky was, does not guarantee success at the top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 I'd fancy Barnes to at least match Albrighton for pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 1 hour ago, Koke said: Knockaert isn't particularly quick either. If a player's passing and technique and intelligence is good then he can get away with average pace. I think we should be looking for Barns to develop into a better all round footballer than Knocky, as likeable as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 1 hour ago, Koke said: Knockaert isn't particularly quick either. If a player's passing and technique and intelligence is good then he can get away with average pace. And Knockaert isn't having the same impact he had in the championship so far. He also has a trick up his sleeve that can buy some some time, Barnes doesn't have that trickery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 3 hours ago, Babylon said: And Knockaert isn't having the same impact he had in the championship so far. He also has a trick up his sleeve that can buy some some time, Barnes doesn't have that trickery. Albrighton's done alright with no tricks, no explosive pace and no real ability to consistently find the net. Barnes goal scoring abilities will give him every chance of becoming a PL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Another assist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 It seems we have a manager prepared to give youngsters chances so if he really is good enough, maybe we'll see next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjt1976 Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Just scored again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 He's better than John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Man loves a worldie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Hopefully Puel will be still here when Barnes is back. He should definitely be given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 12 hours ago, davieG said: You can compensate for a lack of pace in many situations by your quickness of thought, overall awareness and reading of the game. Yep. Dennis Bergkamp wasn't quick but one of the greatest ever! Disclaimer: I am in no way comparing Thomas to Bergkamp ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Man of the match tonight in a 4-2 win against Burton. 1 goal 1 assist. Lloyd Dyer got one of Burton's goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 How many goals and assists is that now? Got to have been involved in about 10 goals in about 15 games for a mediocre team which is obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phube Posted 31 October 2017 Share Posted 31 October 2017 Aaaaaand he's not even 20 until December! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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