Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[tom27111]

2 hours ago, The Bear said:

They've never really bothered me other than the rancid stripes. I've known a few Baggies fans and they've all been sound. Every single Blues fan I've met has been a ****. There's bound to be a few sound ones but most of them have a chip on their shoulder about where they sit in Midlands football. 

There's a lot of football teams in the Midlands to be fair. It's gotta hurt to be just above Coventry and Walsall, because in honesty, that's where they are.

[Nalis]

Wishing former players and managers all the best when they move on is a crock of shit.

[bovril]

18 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Wishing former players and managers all the best when they move on is a crock of shit.

Depends a lot on the situation. 

 

 

[Guest Manley Farrington-Brown]

25 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Wishing former players and managers all the best when they move on is a crock of shit.

Kind of depends who they are, wouldn‘t you say?

Claudio Ranieri - I wish him nothing but happiness (unless we’re playing a team he’s managing).

Dennis Wise - not so much.

Edited 22 July 2021 by Manley Farrington-Brown
typo

[fuchsntf]

On 20/07/2021 at 18:56, Wymsey said:

There will be not much natural spaces left in the countryside in the future, considering the number of new-builds currently being done and newly-approved ones.

I can get quite upset sometimes..when so called clever Western European countries & USA, in Big city & suburbs are not savvy enough,to Force the use of

brown-sites for building, before using and releasing, necessary green-sites...

[Soar Fox]

3 hours ago, Nalis said:

Wishing former players and managers all the best when they move on is a crock of shit.

Why would you not want to wish Nigel Pearson all the best? 

Edited 22 July 2021 by Steve_Walsh5

[UpTheLeagueFox]

13 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Why would you not want to wish Nigel Pearson all the best? 

One of the perks of my job is going to games where NP is the manager and knowing I'll see him on media duties afterwards.

He usually starts with an "Eh up lad" and big smile.

It's a bloody joy.

[NasPb]

i hate AC MORE than anything. 

[danny.]

On 20/07/2021 at 15:01, WigstonWanderer said:

Ah, fair enough, I should have answered your post, but didn’t as I didn’t want to get into any arguments, and don’t necessarily have a defensible position, after all this is the unpopular opinions thread . It’s just that I find myself rolling my eyes more and more regularly when someone on the news or elsewhere is bringing up their mental health issues.

 

I’m in my mid sixties and can’t remember anyone in my formative years having mental health problems (to my knowledge). How we would laugh at the Yanks and their overpaid therapists. Something has changed. Possibly the internet has driven everyone a bit crazy, but I can’t help thinking that all this dwelling on mental health has in some way exacerbated people’s issues rather than helping. Life is not a rose strewn lane of happiness, but rather has vicious turns of events that can be very challenging. This is normal life (IMO).

 

Suffering the stress of a hated job, financial worries, anguish caused by slights from family, friends or strangers, worrying about loved ones and relationships, sadness, hurt and a dozen other emotions are just normal life unfortunately. I confess I’m completely out of my depth here as, whilst suffering all of the above to the point where I just can’t seem to see a way out at times, I’ve never considered these issues to be related to my mental health.

 

Perhaps it’s just a terminology issue, as seems to arise more frequently as I get older, but I can’t help thinking that there are many people who are simply jumping on a modern bandwagon and using mental health as a weapon for emotional blackmail, to the detriment of the mental state of those they attack.

 

To be clear, I am not at all denying the existence of clinical depression, PTSD, and other mental illnesses & conditions. I just think that it is quite likely that there are too many fakers and people feeling sorry for themselves obscuring the problems of genuine sufferers.

 

I’m sure this will not be a popular viewpoint and I acknowledge that it will upset some people and for that I apologise in advance. I am not attacking anyone here in any way. I won’t be adding to this post.

 

 

You have to have a mental illness to understand it. Sounds like you haven’t suffered from anything, which is great. You listed a load of things that anyone would rationally worry about, anxiety doesn’t work like that, and it can be absolutely crippling, as can depression. 

[tom27111]

13 minutes ago, NasPb said:

i hate AC MORE than anything. 

 

Milan?

Air Conditioning?

Ashley Cole?

Alternating Current?

[Scotch]

On 20/07/2021 at 15:01, WigstonWanderer said:

Ah, fair enough, I should have answered your post, but didn’t as I didn’t want to get into any arguments, and don’t necessarily have a defensible position, after all this is the unpopular opinions thread . It’s just that I find myself rolling my eyes more and more regularly when someone on the news or elsewhere is bringing up their mental health issues.

 

I’m in my mid sixties and can’t remember anyone in my formative years having mental health problems (to my knowledge). How we would laugh at the Yanks and their overpaid therapists. Something has changed. Possibly the internet has driven everyone a bit crazy, but I can’t help thinking that all this dwelling on mental health has in some way exacerbated people’s issues rather than helping. Life is not a rose strewn lane of happiness, but rather has vicious turns of events that can be very challenging. This is normal life (IMO).

 

Suffering the stress of a hated job, financial worries, anguish caused by slights from family, friends or strangers, worrying about loved ones and relationships, sadness, hurt and a dozen other emotions are just normal life unfortunately. I confess I’m completely out of my depth here as, whilst suffering all of the above to the point where I just can’t seem to see a way out at times, I’ve never considered these issues to be related to my mental health.

 

Perhaps it’s just a terminology issue, as seems to arise more frequently as I get older, but I can’t help thinking that there are many people who are simply jumping on a modern bandwagon and using mental health as a weapon for emotional blackmail, to the detriment of the mental state of those they attack.

 

To be clear, I am not at all denying the existence of clinical depression, PTSD, and other mental illnesses & conditions. I just think that it is quite likely that there are too many fakers and people feeling sorry for themselves obscuring the problems of genuine sufferers.

 

I’m sure this will not be a popular viewpoint and I acknowledge that it will upset some people and for that I apologise in advance. I am not attacking anyone here in any way. I won’t be adding to this post.

 

 

Hey man. Sorry, meant to reply to this the other day. 

 

I think what you've essentially described is a generation gap. When you say "something has changed", you are spot on. What has changed is our knowledge and understanding of menat illness. You say that growing up, very few people suffered mental health issues but I don't think that is the case. I'm almost certain that more people than you think did, they just didn't understand it. Not even health professionals did. 

 

Just like other conditions such as ADHD, Autism and Bi-polar didn't just come from nowhere, mental health issues have always been there but folk in your day who suffered from them where probably written off as dumb, Mental, slow or trouble makers. And even if people in your day DID understand it, they probably wouldn't have spoken about it anyway as it wasn't as common to be so open with your problems or emotions (especially in men) as it is today.

 

Having said that, there is absolutely no doubt that people today self diagnose themselves with a mental health issue when maybe they are just having a tough time due to the burdens of life that you mentioned but I absolutely believe that we can't take the chance of dismissing someone who we think is faking because we can never know what's going on in someone's head. 

[BenTheFox]

On 20/07/2021 at 17:59, tom27111 said:

There's a lot of football teams in the Midlands to be fair. It's gotta hurt to be just above Coventry and Walsall, because in honesty, that's where they are.

Which is crazy in my opinion, considering they are based in the centre (and carry the name) of England's second city. I don't think it's that unreasonable to compare them to Everton or Man City! 

[BenTheFox]

On 20/07/2021 at 17:56, Wymsey said:

There will be not much natural spaces left in the countryside in the future, considering the number of new-builds currently being done and newly-approved ones.

We've not built anywhere near enough houses over the past 30 years though. We've essentially just started playing catch up. 

[NasPb]

4 hours ago, tom27111 said:

 

Milan?

Air Conditioning?

Ashley Cole?

Alternating Current?

Air conditioning 

[The Bear]

5 hours ago, NasPb said:

Air conditioning 

Me too. I hate feeling cool instead of sweating my tits off too. 

[doverfox]

Not all nurses are Florence Nightingale not all doctors are Harold Shipman. Just when the union says everyone deserves more than 3% be honest most do and some deserve a pay cut. 

[Heathrow fox]

On 20/07/2021 at 17:56, Wymsey said:

There will be not much natural spaces left in the countryside in the future, considering the number of new-builds currently being done and newly-approved ones.

I read a stat recently that said if you put all the buildings together in Britain, it would only cover an area the size of Gloucestershire.I’m presuming that’s stacking everything side by side and excluding roads and gardens etc.Still it shows there’s plenty of room to build on yet.The population is set to level off later in the century.Keep building I say.

[leicsmac]

15 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

I read a stat recently that said if you put all the buildings together in Britain, it would only cover an area the size of Gloucestershire.I’m presuming that’s stacking everything side by side and excluding roads and gardens etc.Still it shows there’s plenty of room to build on yet.The population is set to level off later in the century.Keep building I say.

Yeah, the population and building density in the UK is low compared to a lot of places. Plenty of room for living space remains.

[Nalis]

2 hours ago, doverfox said:

Not all nurses are Florence Nightingale not all doctors are Harold Shipman. Just when the union says everyone deserves more than 3% be honest most do and some deserve a pay cut. 

That is true though its very difficult to split the pay rises in the public sector without those not deserving a payrise knowing they'll have trade union backing if they dont get one.

[Oxfordfox83]

On 22/07/2021 at 23:59, Scotch said:

Hey man. Sorry, meant to reply to this the other day. 

 

I think what you've essentially described is a generation gap. When you say "something has changed", you are spot on. What has changed is our knowledge and understanding of menat illness. You say that growing up, very few people suffered mental health issues but I don't think that is the case. I'm almost certain that more people than you think did, they just didn't understand it. Not even health professionals did. 

 

Just like other conditions such as ADHD, Autism and Bi-polar didn't just come from nowhere, mental health issues have always been there but folk in your day who suffered from them where probably written off as dumb, Mental, slow or trouble makers. And even if people in your day DID understand it, they probably wouldn't have spoken about it anyway as it wasn't as common to be so open with your problems or emotions (especially in men) as it is today.

 

Having said that, there is absolutely no doubt that people today self diagnose themselves with a mental health issue when maybe they are just having a tough time due to the burdens of life that you mentioned but I absolutely believe that we can't take the chance of dismissing someone who we think is faking because we can never know what's going on in someone's head. 

I think this is really true. We have made great strides in destigmatising mental health issues, and giving people better strategies to cope with them. It’s really important to continue with that.

 

The difficulty is that there are also more skivers and wasters who shout about their mental health whenever they want a day off or an excuse, and it’s really difficult to tell from a distance who is genuine. It’s a bit like girls skipping PE because they’ve got awful period pains. Some period pains are debilitating and horrific, some girls just have an excuse to get out of something they don’t want to do. No one can call them on it because no one really knows. 
 

I guess that’s the frustration most people are expressing on here.

[doverfox]

4 hours ago, Oxfordfox83 said:

I think this is really true. We have made great strides in destigmatising mental health issues, and giving people better strategies to cope with them. It’s really important to continue with that.

 

The difficulty is that there are also more skivers and wasters who shout about their mental health whenever they want a day off or an excuse, and it’s really difficult to tell from a distance who is genuine. It’s a bit like girls skipping PE because they’ve got awful period pains. Some period pains are debilitating and horrific, some girls just have an excuse to get out of something they don’t want to do. No one can call them on it because no one really knows. 
 

I guess that’s the frustration most people are expressing on here.

I find the routine and purpose of work is what keeps me sane. The fact as i found it was too much time to think was too much time to have suicidal thoughts.  It is often easier to find reasons not too do something than to do it. My wife has a bad back and i mean having liquid morphine perscribed gave up a reasonable job  and then has to go through the degrading pip and esa reviews because doctors cant make that decision. But then i think my daughters play on mental health and adhd to do as little as they can. IATA for thinking my two daughters are just bone idle.

[murphy]

8 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Yeah, the population and building density in the UK is low compared to a lot of places. Plenty of room for living space remains.

 

281 people per km2.  The highest population density in Europe after Holland and Belgium.

 

I hate the continuous spread of suburbs, the villages that turn into towns and then begin to join together.  It's unstoppable but something that really gets me down.  I need wide open spaces.  I need the countryside not concrete.  The future is 'green corridors' apparently, which is a desperately sad prospect from my point of view.  This grey unpleasant land, to paraphrase Blake.

 

One thing that never seems to come into the thinking of decision makers is quality of life.  Inversely proportional to population density imo.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Scotch]

4 hours ago, doverfox said:

I find the routine and purpose of work is what keeps me sane. The fact as i found it was too much time to think was too much time to have suicidal thoughts.  It is often easier to find reasons not too do something than to do it. My wife has a bad back and i mean having liquid morphine perscribed gave up a reasonable job  and then has to go through the degrading pip and esa reviews because doctors cant make that decision. But then i think my daughters play on mental health and adhd to do as little as they can. IATA for thinking my two daughters are just bone idle.

Again, like I said previously, it's a generational thing. You (like I) find the routine of work beneficial to your mental health. You wife unfortunately can't have that due to what sounds like horrendous physical issues yet your kids will happily hide behind what we see as a delicate subject in order to do nothing which will probably end up giving them genuine mental health issues. 

 

Like @Oxfordfox83 rightly said previously, normalising and destigmatising mental health issues is important but I feel we are getting to the point where it's soo common that this recent generation will use it a crutch which is were folk like @WigstonWanderer who is tired of hearing about it come in. 

[leicsmac]

7 hours ago, murphy said:

 

281 people per km2.  The highest population density in Europe after Holland and Belgium.

 

I hate the continuous spread of suburbs, the villages that turn into towns and then begin to join together.  It's unstoppable but something that really gets me down.  I need wide open spaces.  I need the countryside not concrete.  The future is 'green corridors' apparently, which is a desperately sad prospect from my point of view.  This grey unpleasant land, to paraphrase Blake.

 

One thing that never seems to come into the thinking of decision makers is quality of life.  Inversely proportional to population density imo.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

...and much lower than a lot of places in the Far East (Singapore, Japan, South Korea) that still experience a pretty good quality of life (and life expectancy) despite it IMO.

 

An interesting thing over here is that Korea has practically the same population as England (not including Scotland or Wales) and has pretty comparable land area...yet about 70% of that land area is essentially useless by virtue of being mountainous. So they've had to come up with some very interesting solutions building both up and down within the space that they have in order to satisfy housing and other requirements. It's perfectly normal in a city here to go visit a bar or a cinema that's on the 9th or 10th floor of a building.

 

This has the corollary of preserving the "green" land they have already - it's not that they choose not to use it, they can't.

 

Perhaps that might be something for the UK government to consider - when it comes to sprawl, perhaps consider building tall, not wide. But then I guess people will complain that they don't get to live in a house and "have" to live in an apartment.

Edited 25 July 2021 by leicsmac

[SouthStandUpperTier]

The Olympic games is bloated and needs a cull of events. Swimming, for example, needs to bin off all breaststroke, butterfly, and backstroke events. Why even bother with strokes that aren't as quick as freestyle?