Kitchandro Posted 12 October 2017 Posted 12 October 2017 32 minutes ago, Sionnach gorm said: Oddly I see few reasons Members are posting here for keeping him. Well my reason for keeping him would be: 1) I don't believe we will be relegated under Shakey (our underperforming team is not yet relation fodder). 2) We will give the impression to next potential manager (yes, I believe Shakey should be removed at year end) that we do not give managers a proper chance (which is why sacking Ranieri was a mistake...[see above] ). You seem to be playing devil's advocate here, but regardless, I'd counter those points with: 1) That's not really relevant. It's whether we are going backwards. I'd say we quite evidently are. 2) By keeping him we might give the impression we're a club with no ambition. And we won't be able to be a club with ambition if we are deep in a relegation dogfight. There is still time this early in the season to say 'we're an attractive club who has just had a bad time under a poor manager'. The longer it goes on, the more we look like a club on the slide which is going nowhere good.
foxinsocks Posted 12 October 2017 Posted 12 October 2017 25 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: You seem to be playing devil's advocate here, but regardless, I'd counter those points with: 1) That's not really relevant. It's whether we are going backwards. I'd say we quite evidently are. 2) By keeping him we might give the impression we're a club with no ambition. And we won't be able to be a club with ambition if we are deep in a relegation dogfight. There is still time this early in the season to say 'we're an attractive club who has just had a bad time under a poor manager'. The longer it goes on, the more we look like a club on the slide which is going nowhere good. this is true.... and we must all face it. Sad but.... WE need to make the change and find someone who can take us forward
Sionnach gorm Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 10 hours ago, Kitchandro said: You seem to be playing devil's advocate here, but regardless, I'd counter those points with: 1) That's not really relevant. It's whether we are going backwards. I'd say we quite evidently are. 2) By keeping him we might give the impression we're a club with no ambition. And we won't be able to be a club with ambition if we are deep in a relegation dogfight. There is still time this early in the season to say 'we're an attractive club who has just had a bad time under a poor manager'. The longer it goes on, the more we look like a club on the slide which is going nowhere good. I think those are good points. I'll admit I'm uncertain about our best path.
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 A loss on Monday and I think the clock will be ticking for Shakey. This is a crucial match. The Silva fiasco is not his fault and I feel a bit sorry for him. Arguably we now have the worst midfield options in the whole of the division. I think its pretty scandalous how the club have acted ... Kapuksta, Mendy and Lawrence have all been allowed to go. To just be relying on Iborra , King , a young kid and a player who we know is injury prone is crazy.
StriderHiryu Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 08:28, GaelicFox said: We are fu*ked he is sounding like John Carver now !!! horrendous interview http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4971012/Shakespeare-Leicester-stars-adapt-different-roles.html This doesn't sound good. I know that LCFC has become legendary for creating an environment of empowerment from the players, but there is a reason why players play and coaches coach.
Guest Col city fan Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 6 hours ago, RODNEY FERNIO said: A loss on Monday and I think the clock will be ticking for Shakey. This is a crucial match. The Silva fiasco is not his fault and I feel a bit sorry for him. Arguably we now have the worst midfield options in the whole of the division. I think its pretty scandalous how the club have acted ... Kapuksta, Mendy and Lawrence have all been allowed to go. To just be relying on Iborra , King , a young kid and a player who we know is injury prone is crazy. Agree with all of this. I think our midfield is next to the worst in the division and (a point I made before but was shouted down by the usual suspects), it's gone backwards a few years imo. Leaving Kante aside, we've lost Drinkwater, Cambiasso, King has gone downhill, James was better before his horrendous injury (imo) Now we have Wilf, who is clearly suffering from being a 20 year old kid chucked in too much, too quick. Iborra, who looks off the pace to me and Amartey who, God knows what his best position is? It's a mess. I think it's worse than it was even during the Championship winning campaign. A younger, fitter Drinkwater and James actually played very well together.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 07:28, GaelicFox said: We are fu*ked he is sounding like John Carver now !!! horrendous interview http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4971012/Shakespeare-Leicester-stars-adapt-different-roles.html There are many negatives in there. The one that concerns me most is that he’s encouraging the lads to press higher up the pitch. On its own that sounds like a positive, however he’s been asking them to do that for ****ing weeks and clearly they are listening ?!!!
winteriscoming Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 The main issue I have with Shakespeare especially away from home is that he is more concerned about not losing rather than being positive and going for a win. Dont get me wrong obviously going places like arsenal and man utd you'd take a point but when he comes out with being happy with a point at huddersfield and bournemouth you find it frustating to hear. I couldn't believe it when he said after the huddersfield game that at half time he would of been happy with a point. Even at home to Chelsea at half time 1 nil down his solution bring king on and leave vardy up front on his own. You can make the excuse of a tough start but we've won 1 out 7 and in that have played brighton, huddersfield and bournemouth. I can hear him now after wba game saying that hes happy with a point.
CyprusFox Posted 13 October 2017 Posted 13 October 2017 1 hour ago, Burmesefox said: Reasons to keep Shakespeare........part 3. Still can't think of one!
Dan Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 On 10/4/2017 at 12:05, Babylon said: The only time we've pressed is when the players were stung with critisism, we've seen a drop off since then again. I'm worried it's down to attitude and application. I'm finally starting to think that.
Dan Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 12:14, lgfualol said: That gives me absolutely no confidence in him. If we got someone else in they would change the formation without "chatting with the lads" - because our lot will insist he keeps 442, just like with Ranieri. Seems to me like the players suddenly do not have a clue how to play 442, or they are just not doing what Shakespeare or Appleton says. Either way, we're fvcked. I honestly cannot get my head around why they'd even want to play 4-4-2. Who is it bringing the best out of exactly? Other than the opposition. It leaves us light in midfield, isolated up front, still not particularly organised at the back, and our style does absolutely nothing for creative players like Mahrez. I just can't see who it's meant to be benefiting. If the players want 4-4-2 then they're off their heads.
somebum Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 18 hours ago, Burmesefox said: Reasons to keep Shakespeare........part 3. Why dont you get back into bed
volpeazzurro Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 3 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: I honestly cannot get my head around why they'd even want to play 4-4-2. Who is it bringing the best out of exactly? Other than the opposition. It leaves us light in midfield, isolated up front, still not particularly organised at the back, and our style does absolutely nothing for creative players like Mahrez. I just can't see who it's meant to be benefiting. If the players want 4-4-2 then they're off their heads. In essence this is it for me too. Nothing wrong with 442 .....if you've got the right players to play it and we currently haven't! Wake up Shakespeare you dumb clut or preferably just fall on your sword! We're neither providing opportunities to some potentially lethal proven strikers in Vardy, Slimani, Iheanacho or even Marhez and neither are we providing chances to an overworked made to look foolish at times defence, all of whom are also competent. When fit we've also got some very decent midfielders as well believe it or not ........ just not in an overun 2, many keep pointing this out but this blubbery clown, who looks more like an unfit kebab eating tramp in an inappropriate tracksuit from a New Walk park bench seems to be absolutely blind to it. And relax, I feel better for that and it's only ten to seven!
Daggers Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 19 hours ago, Burmesefox said: Reasons to keep Shakespeare........part 3. Kingy’s silly faces Training ground races Playing like faeces And Filbert Fox
somebum Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 Shakey not so witty tactically so shitty Fifa getting lippy Relegation looms
Mr Weller Posted 14 October 2017 Author Posted 14 October 2017 With respect, few seem to be addressing my original point which is that a deeper malaise is affecting the club and Shakespeare is not the direct cause of that. I may be wrong, but my instinct is that he is ideally placed to understand the cause of this because he's been around a while. Results may make this impossible of course, but I don't really think our fundamental problem is as simple as a few tactical changes and while a change of manager may give us a short term boost, the same pattern would probably emerge within time. We are trying to become a bigger club than we used to be, and it's hard to do that straight away, but I think the owners are aware of this and in the end they will achieve it.
weller54 Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 Just interviewed on Soccer am.... Shakey was asked what profession he'd like to be in if he wasn't a Football Manager... Answer :.................................? Any guesses?
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 2 minutes ago, weller54 said: Just interviewed on Soccer am.... Shakey was asked what profession he'd like to be in if he wasn't a Football Manager... Answer :.................................? Any guesses? Something to do with food I should imagine e.g a pastry chef
Guest Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 14:02, Burmesefox said: Reasons to keep Shakespeare........part 3. The breakfast cereal porridge oats Generosity and politeness Yellow socks Carrot juice Wine Elvis and Scotty A cure for smallpox The National Health Service's free glasses
Dr The Singh Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 5 hours ago, weller54 said: Just interviewed on Soccer am.... Shakey was asked what profession he'd like to be in if he wasn't a Football Manager... Answer :.................................? Any guesses? Fluffer, or Rimmer?
GaelicFox Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 They laughed at me when I said we were in a relegation scrap well now we are in a relegation place !! win Monday night or sack flakey Shaky
Tuna Posted 14 October 2017 Posted 14 October 2017 1 minute ago, GaelicFox said: They laughed at me when I said we were in a relegation scrap well now we are in a relegation place !! win Monday night or sack flakey Shaky Lose to West Brom and he'll be sacked.
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