EnglishOxide Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 4 hours ago, Babylon said: What formation do you suggest we play to get the best out of Slimani, Nacho, Gray, Mahrez, Vardy and Musa... the lesser known 3-1-6 ------------------------Kasper----------------------- ---------------Dragovic----Maguire------------ -Gray------Iborra-----------Ndidi--------Chilwell- --------------Mahrez------Iheanacho--------------- -----------------Vardy---------Slimani---------------- Mr Guardiola plays like this and makes it work. C'mon Pep Shakiola, give it a go!
Vardinio'sCat Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 15 hours ago, Jakemoore said: No no, I was literally saying maybe we should give him 10 games so yeah 3 more. My comment wasn't in reference to anyone or anything that anyone has said. I'm just a frustrated fan like the rest! Oops sorry. How shocking, we vaguely agree! The frustration is so apparent on here, I think the midfield situation (over 2 seasons) is enough to make a grown man weep.
Guy Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 On 9/30/2017 at 21:39, Sindidragon said: Give it next 3 games....WBA, Swansea, Everton where we need to prove ourselves and take some points. Has to be 7 from 9 for me. Otherwise anything less then confidence will plummet. Then Shakey is on thin ice. This. As poor as our present league position of 17th on goal difference is, it is still very early days and the end of October, once we have played the next three fixtures against the above three supposedly 'easier' teams. will be a more fitting time to judge Shakespeare's position with more scrutiny than most are at present. To call for his sacking right now, while maybe being seen as being 'pro active' by some is a tad ridiculous IMO, we even gave a hapless Claudio last season until February of course! As others have said the whole midfield fiasco (Silva deadline missed) was just unfortunate and not really his fault. I know and appreciate that people haven't been happy with the uninspiring way we've played this season and the fact that we have only picked up one win against a newly promoted side from the opening seven league games but I was seriously wondering if anybody actually 'expected' there to be more points to be on the board given our tough opening set of fixtures. I think the words 'hoped for ' would apply there more than 'expected', there's a difference of course! So far we have faced four of last season's big five of course, none of which we lost by more than a goal save for the 2-0 at Man Utd.....while only inept/strangely timed subs by Shakespeare probably prevented us from holding on for the win at Arsenal and from getting a point at Old Trafford. For now it is still too early to judge Shakey's position as said, November will be the better time to do so. If we are in the bottom three then his position will be untenable I'd say......
BlueTillIDie Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 Reasons to keep Shakespeare - * He already has his kit printed for the season * He has a Morrisons Fuel card and its nearly time to redeem his points * He's amazing at Karaoke and does a great Mysterious Girl by Peter Andre * He's best mates with Jim Bowen and lets the lads borrow his speed boat to go round rutland water * Him and Stowell are set to star on the new X Factor and will add further publicity to club.
Wymsey Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 He speaks with integrity and he knows the club. He just need to alter the areas the team struggles with, and things should improve. But not sure why he's too hesitant to change certain aspects of the game, as no change now is obviously not the right way to progress in terms of both results and fan satisfaction.
Guest Danny Clender Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 4 hours ago, EnglishOxide said: ------------------------Kasper----------------------- ---------------Dragovic----Maguire------------ -Gray------Iborra-----------Ndidi--------Chilwell- --------------Mahrez------Iheanacho--------------- -----------------Vardy---------Slimani---------------- Mr Guardiola plays like this and makes it work. C'mon Pep Shakiola, give it a go! If this works, we could sell quite a number of players, especially in defence and replace them with cover for the front 4. I'm just not sure a 2 man defence would be so easy to adjust to so quickly.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 Because so many people at FT ( and our manager) are lamenting over our fixture list this season: Last season (first 8 games): Hull, Arsenal, Swansea, Liverpool, Burnley, ManU, Southampton, Chelsea This season (first 8 games): Arsenal, Brighton, ManU, Chelsea, Huddersfield, Liverpool, Bournemouth, West Brom In what way is our fixture list this season tougher than last year's ? And last year we had 6 additional CL- matches to play between the middle of September and the beginning of December. Yes, CS doesn't have to many options in midfield right now. But how many did CR have at the same time last season, with James and Mendy injured and N'Didi still in Belgium? But, perhaps, we are shooting at the wrong target. Is always the manager responsible for bad performances? I mean, look at Ranieri's new club. FC Nantes, after winning four in a row, are now on 4th place in League 1 (8 games, 16 points). Perhaps, because his new team is able and willing to play different formations (442, 532, 343, 4231)? Why is CS sticking to 442 or 4411? Because he knows all too well, what happened, when Ranieri tried to change the system last season: the players downed tools and the manager got fired. I guess, CS is fearing, that the same could happen again, if he tried to force the players out of their 442 comfort zone. CS owes his job to the senior players (Schmeichel, Vardy, Morgan, King) and that is his biggest problem.
volpeazzurro Posted 2 October 2017 Posted 2 October 2017 40 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Because so many people at FT ( and our manager) are lamenting over our fixture list this season: Last season (first 8 games): Hull, Arsenal, Swansea, Liverpool, Burnley, ManU, Southampton, Chelsea This season (first 8 games): Arsenal, Brighton, ManU, Chelsea, Huddersfield, Liverpool, Bournemouth, West Brom In what way is our fixture list this season tougher than last year's ? And last year we had 6 additional CL- matches to play between the middle of September and the beginning of December. Yes, CS doesn't have to many options in midfield right now. But how many did CR have at the same time last season, with James and Mendy injured and N'Didi still in Belgium? But, perhaps, we are shooting at the wrong target. Is always the manager responsible for bad performances? I mean, look at Ranieri's new club. FC Nantes, after winning four in a row, are now on 4th place in League 1 (8 games, 16 points). Perhaps, because his new team is able and willing to play different formations (442, 532, 343, 4231)? Why is CS sticking to 442 or 4411? Because he knows all too well, what happened, when Ranieri tried to change the system last season: the players downed tools and the manager got fired. I guess, CS is fearing, that the same could happen again, if he tried to force the players out of their 442 comfort zone. CS owes his job to the senior players (Schmeichel, Vardy, Morgan, King) and that is his biggest problem. I think that is fairly accurate. I also think that when Ranieri, with all his experience tried to change things, with less options than Shakey has now, when the players were rejecting it, Shakey was too close to the players and instead of taking the side of the manager backed the players. There is no evidence of this only rumours but, the fact that he is slavishly following the 442 with his favourites and not adopting, or at least trying, another formation and using our multimillion pounds worth of talent stinks. I personally see Shakespeare as a weak but ambitious malignant force in our club and will be glad when he's gone. He's floundering and hasn't got a clue what to do. I think he comes over as a creepy little sneak.
Lovejoy Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 Shakespeare still hasn't lost to anyone outside of last seasons top seven.
Ollie93 Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 8 minutes ago, Lovejoy said: Shakespeare still hasn't lost to anyone outside of last seasons top seven. Which proves what?
mozartfox Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 12 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: I think that is fairly accurate. I also think that when Ranieri, with all his experience tried to change things, with less options than Shakey has now, when the players were rejecting it, Shakey was too close to the players and instead of taking the side of the manager backed the players. There is no evidence of this only rumours but, the fact that he is slavishly following the 442 with his favourites and not adopting, or at least trying, another formation and using our multimillion pounds worth of talent stinks. I personally see Shakespeare as a weak but ambitious malignant force in our club and will be glad when he's gone. He's floundering and hasn't got a clue what to do. I think he comes over as a creepy little sneak. Not a fan then?
weller54 Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 7 minutes ago, Ollie93 said: Which proves what? ...that he's a jammy little fat, orange cvnt!
Redouane Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 He's well spoken and respectful. Too bad he's not great at his job
Babylon Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 13 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Because so many people at FT ( and our manager) are lamenting over our fixture list this season: Last season (first 8 games): Hull, Arsenal, Swansea, Liverpool, Burnley, ManU, Southampton This season (first 8 games): Arsenal, Brighton, ManU, Chelsea, Huddersfield, Liverpool, Bournemouth The issue was the first 6 games, not the first 8. Even if you keep it to the game played, that's still an extra one of the top 6. Plus, rather than playing Swansea, Burnley and Saints at home, we've played Liverpool, Chelsea and Brighton. With our other "easier" games being away from home, which considering our home form v away form makes a big difference. There is zero argument against the fact it's been a fairly tough start. It was pretty much accepted that it's what we had before we'd even kicked a ball. So it's not an excuse being dreamed up.
Blue ROI Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 I would say that Pearson looked a beaten docket after Hull in 2015 before the turnaround happened. That might be some hope to those who might still want Shakey and believe he can stop the slump. Not that i'm convinced it will happen unfortunately.
Lovejoy Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 41 minutes ago, Ollie93 said: Which proves what? What is Shakey's record against teams outside of those seven? And what is your expectation of where Leicester should finish? Sorry if I don't fit the "Craig Shakespeare is the shittiest football manager in forever" narrative just yet, I'll give it a few weeks at least.
Ollie93 Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 1 hour ago, Lovejoy said: What is Shakey's record against teams outside of those seven? And what is your expectation of where Leicester should finish? Sorry if I don't fit the "Craig Shakespeare is the shittiest football manager in forever" narrative just yet, I'll give it a few weeks at least. Obviously not very good.
Lovejoy Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 27 minutes ago, Ollie93 said: Obviously not very good. Come on bud, you can't hate on people for not being complete doom merchants . It's won 7; drawn 4; lost 0 for the record .
Ollie93 Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 15 minutes ago, Lovejoy said: Come on bud, you can't hate on people for not being complete doom merchants . It's won 7; drawn 4; lost 0 for the record . I'm not hating at all mate, just being realistic. His tactics haven't been spot on so far have they?
AjcW Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 22 hours ago, EnglishOxide said: ------------------------Kasper----------------------- ---------------Dragovic----Maguire------------ -Gray------Iborra-----------Ndidi--------Chilwell- --------------Mahrez------Iheanacho--------------- -----------------Vardy---------Slimani---------------- Mr Guardiola plays like this and makes it work. C'mon Pep Shakiola, give it a go! Well... he makes it work with world class wing backs... you've got a lad who wants to be a striker and a young full back in those positions Also not entirely sure Kasper is a sweeper keeper... he can't kick it in a straight line when he's not under pressure.
RonnieTodger Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 The only argument for at the moment, is because we face instability of getting a new manager in. We could go Palace's way and get some dopey old twat like Hodgson and get even worse. I don't understand what has changed, not from the title winning team, but from the team that he started with; sweeping Liverpool, Sevilla and many more aside. FFS we were competitive at Man City with Fuchs and Benalouane at CB. How have we managed to become worse? I'd genuinely forgotten about the wins over Stoke, Watford and Hull etc. It makes you wonder if things really wenty tits up after that 1-6 against Spurs. Drinkwater and Huth aside it was the same XI that he won all those games with and we were generally decent. Obviously the Silva saga isn't his fault, but there has to be a contingency plan. Don't pretend that King is Drinkwater and that Ndidi is Kante. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore, I'm just confused as to what Leicester City are at the minute. We were utter dog shit under Ranieri last year, then decent under Shakespeare and now we're bollocks again without any major changes in team/tactics.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 On 30/09/2017 at 19:39, RODNEY FERNIO said: I think Shakey should get till Xmas. Our defence and attack are decent it's the midfield ( lacking in numbers and quality ) that's the problem. Let's face it we will have to stick with our diabolical midfield options until January whether we get a new manager or not. ON TALKCRAP PHONE IN NOW ONE OF THE HEADLINE TOPICS .... WILL LEICESTER BE RELEGATED ? We don’t have to stick with the midfield as it is, we can change it very simply by having 3 in there instead of 2.
Lovejoy Posted 3 October 2017 Posted 3 October 2017 1 hour ago, Ollie93 said: I'm not hating at all mate, just being realistic. His tactics haven't been spot on so far have they? Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly buzzing about us at the moment, just read back my Whatsapp conversation after the Bournemouth game with a fellow ST holder about how sh*t we are and it's pretty heavy . I just think it's too early to be condemning Shakey as a write off and I'm trying to remain level headed. If we can beat West Brom and Swansea then suddenly things are different. If we don't then, agreed, there is no excuse.
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